What would your "Legendary SSJ" look like?

[Terra-jin]

I'd like to see an SSj 4 with black, normal hair and a normal, white aura, but still with the green eyes. It'd end the line of SSj transformation by going back to basics - with only a hint remaining (the green eyes). It's sort of like the mystic powerup of Gohan, but then achieved in the natural way. It's powers would come from the SSj and Ôzaru forms together, but then sparing energy by removing (most of) the transformations themselves.

[Kaboom]

If it were up to me, the "Legendary" Super Saiyan would be a person, not a form. Their appearance would be just like any other Super Saiyan.

Maybe though, they'd appear somewhat less impressive than other Super Saiyans. Be a little less muscular and overall flashy than others. All of his superiority would come when he powered up, and his ki aura burns brighter and better than everyone else.

[LeprikanGT]

I liked the look of Broly in his first movie; BUT ima have to go with the golden oozaru IF he had control over hit.

[Gozar]

To me, the Legendary SSJ has always just been SSJ1 and not a form like Movie 8 depicts. It's some guy 1000 years ago who tranformed just like Goku did.

[omegacwa]

I never understood why the eyebrows disappeared on SSJ3. That makes no sense at all. But I guess it's not as ridiculous as Goku turning into an Adult and changing his clothes when he goes SSJ4.

[LeprikanGT]

I think its really random that after 100 years of no super saiyans; 2 pure super saiyans and 3 half super saiyans pop up outta nowhere.

Although only two were true super saiyans [golden ooazru, it appeared in one of vegets flashback speeches]

[Gozar]

Although only two were true super saiyans [golden ooazru, it appeared in one of vegets flashback speeches]

*Cough*Filler*Cough*

[Terra-jin]

I never understood why the eyebrows disappeared on SSJ3. That makes no sense at all. But I guess it's not as ridiculous as Goku turning into an Adult and changing his clothes when he goes SSJ4.

The SSj 3 almost looks like a lion to me, with the long manes of golden hair and all. The browless eyes just add to that sense. It's kinda cool actually, through one path, the Saiyan transforms into a giant monkey, and through the other he becomes like a lion. Both are terribly powerful animals.

[Saiyan-Professor]

To me, the Legendary SSJ has always just been SSJ1 and not a form like Movie 8 depicts. It's some guy 1000 years ago who transformed just like Goku did.

Do you know this to be the case? The manga is silent on the original form’s appearance (more below).

Although only two were true super saiyans [golden ooazru, it appeared in one of vegets flashback speeches]

*Cough*Filler*Cough*

Well Toriyama did not complain about the flashback (as far as we know) and he signed off on GT so as far as the anime is concerned the Golden Ôzaru is the genuine Legendary transformation. That is the closest we can come to it officially unless the Daizenshuu tells us otherwise (IMO).

[Terra-jin]

It could also be that the previous legendary Saiyan just turned SSj 1 while in his Ôzaru state. This seems likely, since that transformation brings out power and rage, the two main ingredients for Super Saiyan.

[Saiyan-Professor]

It could also be that the previous legendary Saiyan just turned SSj 1 while in his Ôzaru state. This seems likely, since that transformation brings out power and rage, the two main ingredients for Super Saiyan.

I agree it appears that the transformations that we know to be Super Saiyan (SSJ 1-3) are just a means to gain the true power of the Golden Ôzaru when an adult Saiyan has lost their tail.

[Dayspring]

Something with a monkey tail, but I'm really not a fan of SSJ4. Maybe a cross between SSJ and SSJ4.

Like that?

Actually... YES. The middle one with a tail would be perfect.

And don't get me wrong, guys. I'm not saying I wanted Goku to defeat Boo with another SSJ power up, just that I want the SSJ legend to actually be something more than a misunderstood fact. Either it isn't enough to defeat Kid Boo, or that ends up being the power up Elder Kaioshin gives to Gohan (ie: Gohan is the legendary SSJ for this millennia, and all Kaioshin did was make him realize it).

[JAPPO]

To me, the Legendary SSJ has always just been SSJ1 and not a form like Movie 8 depicts. It's some guy 1000 years ago who tranformed just like Goku did.

GASP! YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE ALMIGHTY TOEI 100% YOU ARE NOT A TRUE FAN.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

Gotenks is great because he actually makes a fight FUN to read from panel to panel or episode to episode, because he's amusing. There's only so many times I can watch speed lines dash about and hear the humans coment about the action that I cannot see because it's so insanely fast wow.

I think you're mixing the manga and the anime there. All the fights are good stuff in the manga.

On topic: Legendary Super Saiyan would be what we call Super Saiyan 1. And there would be no other levels. And only Goku (maaaayyybe Vegeta, if the series continued after Freeza, Goku'd need a rival) could get to it.

The manga's fights are sometimes well expanded upon in the anime adaptation. I more or less have my preference on an event-by-event basis. A lot of the fights before the "Z" portion turn out great, thanks to the lack of speed lines garbage. But I can definitely understand a manga-only preference, it's just not mine.

And I still think that people focus way too much on the "Legend" of the Super Saiyan. It was a plot device that was more or less forgotten. But if I had to entertain the idea, I'd say that the Super Saiyan legend would be just a legend, possibly based on some Saiyan getting the transformation a long time ago.

For some reason, I don't think the Saiyans were all too big on fortune-telling. It seems fitting to me to think that they would focus their closest thing to a religious belief on some being that would become insanely strong and blow shit up. But I doubt they're all that creative or clairvoyant, so I'm just going to assume that the legend is just a legend.

And Broly is just an overpowered, hyperactive, ADD Saiyan with bi-polar disorder and turrets syndrome.

To me, the Legendary SSJ has always just been SSJ1 and not a form like Movie 8 depicts. It's some guy 1000 years ago who transformed just like Goku did.

Do you know this to be the case? The manga is silent on the original form’s appearance (more below).

Although only two were true super saiyans [golden ooazru, it appeared in one of vegets flashback speeches]

*Cough*Filler*Cough*

Well Toriyama did not complain about the flashback (as far as we know) and he signed off on GT so as far as the anime is concerned the Golden Ôzaru is the genuine Legendary transformation. That is the closest we can come to it officially unless the Daizenshuu tells us otherwise (IMO).

Yeah, see, your view is EXTREMELY backwards compared to my own. I go with the Manga first, then the anime, then anime filler like GT, and THEN the Daizenshuu for things not covered or that don't contradict anything before it. No matter how much Toriyama liked GT, he didn't WRITE it, and it does show.

I think its really random that after 100 years of no super saiyans; 2 pure super saiyans and 3 half super saiyans pop up outta nowhere.

Although only two were true super saiyans [golden ooazru, it appeared in one of vegets flashback speeches]

Again, I consider GT to be a sometimes-fun filler arc, nothing more. And they didn't just "pop up". Goku got it through pretty understandable means, and he pretty much showed the other Saiayans(who were all extremely strong by Saiyan standards in their own right) how to achieve it. Seems reasonable to me.

[LeprikanGT]

He didnt show Goten or Trunks how to do it; they were super saiyans before anyone else knew about it.

Also, as much as some of you may dislike GT, it is a concrete part of the series and no ammount of hating or bashing will make it go away or less real.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

He didnt show Goten or Trunks how to do it; they were super saiyans before anyone else knew about it.

Also, as much as some of you may dislike GT, it is a concrete part of the series and no ammount of hating or bashing will make it go away or less real.

Okay, so by your definition, Trunks and Goten came out of nowhere. That's just two half-Saiyans

And that's more or less genetics there. And a plot device. =p

Er, I implore you to find GT in any manga volumes. That is Dragon Ball. Anything outside of that is not a concrete part of the series.

The anime?

Just an adaptation, no more Dragon Ball continuity than the Live Action Movie. We don't say that, because the two other schools in the Goblet of Fire film are all boys and all girls schools, that this is now a part of the Harry Potter canon.

[Saiyan-Professor]

With Dragonball, there is no such thing as canon the franchise is too convoluted. Everyone has his or her own canon. Unless Toriyama actually comes forward and says something to be the case regarding any subject then one can say it is official. However, to me the closest you can come to canon information is the Daizenshuus and the GT Perfect Files. Speaking of GT, how is it considered filler? Filler “fills” in the gaps between two points. The Ano-Yo-Ichi Budôkai is filler but GT is not.

[Rocketman]

With Dragonball, there is no such thing as canon the franchise is too convoluted.

The manga and the manga alone. There, the 'convoluted' franchise just got cut down to size.

However, to me the closest you can come to canon information is the Daizenshuus and the GT Perfect Files.

With how much incorrect crap is in those? No way.

[LeprikanGT]

@super gohst - I was just stating that goten and trunks became super saiyans at a very young age without any 'teachings' of how to do it, Goku was dead when it happened and gohan and vegeta were just as shocked when they found out. It wasnt about loss or to prove anything; at that point it wasnt that big of a deal.

[Pain]

Can someone post a pic of the "LSSJ" that Vegeta talked about in the Freeza Saga? I remember see it as a big ape-like shadowy figure.