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Post by Chuquita » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:18 pm

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Chuquita wrote:A "D.O" game?! As in a Dragon Ball and One Piece game without the high-school-ninjas?
Ah ah ah, MIDDLE School Ninja's! :D (Unless you mean time-skip...)



Also, what's this Play! TV thing the D.O. Game is on? Is it some kind of system?

Also middle school, but of course. :3

I purposely said high school because of the time skip, but yes, middle as well. :lol:


I'm forever grateful that Toei licensed One Piece instead of Naruto to animate. Because of that we get all this awesome DB/OP crossover merchandise.
It doesn't hurt that Mr. Oda loves Dragon Ball either. :wink:


(A Cross Epoch game would be epic, btw. If I remember correctly, "Captain" Vegeta mentioned something about the Gero pirates? I would get a laugh out of 16, 17, and 18 dressed in Oda-style pirate gear).


Also these weekly network rankings http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -october-5 assure me I'm not out of my mind for preferring OP, despite living in Viz's "Naruto Nation".
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Post by Raki » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:42 pm

Chuquita wrote:Also these weekly network rankings http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -october-5 assure me I'm not out of my mind for preferring OP, despite living in Viz's "Naruto Nation".
To be fair, Naruto's ratings got killed due to all those damn fillers. But I'm glad to see One Piece destroy Naruto week in and out in the Japanese ratings.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:15 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Also these weekly network rankings http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -october-5 assure me I'm not out of my mind for preferring OP, despite living in Viz's "Naruto Nation".
To be fair, Naruto's ratings got killed due to all those damn fillers. But I'm glad to see One Piece destroy Naruto week in and out in the Japanese ratings.
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Post by Wasted Wisher » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:52 am

Ey, folks,. Ain't been up here in a bit. Still haven't had time to go look around Imageshack, so if anybody else wants scans of the DBZJT model sheets, PM me your e-mail. I already sent some new pics to VegettoEX, backthen and...some other guy.
And I'm glad a lot of people here like OnePiece as well. I'm a big fan of the show, but having watched most of it in without translation, there's still a lot of piecing together to do for me to get it all...

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Post by backthen » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:59 am

Wasted Wisher wrote:Ey, folks,. Ain't been up here in a bit. Still haven't had time to go look around Imageshack, so if anybody else wants scans of the DBZJT model sheets, PM me your e-mail. I already sent some new pics to VegettoEX, backthen and...some other guy.
And I'm glad a lot of people here like OnePiece as well. I'm a big fan of the show, but having watched most of it in without translation, there's still a lot of piecing together to do for me to get it all...
Which email of mine are you sending them too? I haven't received them, I'll pm you my email.

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Post by SSj_Rambo » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:29 pm

Has anyone else thought that maybe Wasted Wisher and VegettoEX are pulling our legs here? It's not like Mike to keep stuff from us, and offering to e-mail the pictures to each individual person as apposed to simply posting them seems strange. I'm not doubting the validity f your claims Wasted Wisher (I PM'd you to give my e-mail address for the pictures), it's just that around here (with Mike's history and past shenanigans) you have to think twice about everything you read/see. :wink:

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Post by Big Momma » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:08 pm

Chuquita wrote: I'm forever grateful that Toei licensed One Piece instead of Naruto to animate. Because of that we get all this awesome DB/OP crossover merchandise.
It doesn't hurt that Mr. Oda loves Dragon Ball either. :wink:
But maybe if they did Shippuuden, than the animation/artwork wouldn't suck as much. (Seriously, the quality went waay down since pre-timeskip.)

@Wasted Wisher: I'll send you my email, but can you just send it as a PM here?
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:17 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote:Ey, folks,. Ain't been up here in a bit. Still haven't had time to go look around Imageshack, so if anybody else wants scans of the DBZJT model sheets, PM me your e-mail. I already sent some new pics to VegettoEX, backthen and...some other guy.
And I'm glad a lot of people here like OnePiece as well. I'm a big fan of the show, but having watched most of it in without translation, there's still a lot of piecing together to do for me to get it all...

I'll pm you my e-mail. I really want to see those scans very badly.
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Post by Dayspring » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:19 pm

Why not just post them in the thread, again?
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Post by Miracles » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:58 pm

Let's have em please!!!!

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Post by saiyanprincess » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:13 am

I don't want to sound like I'm desperate or anything, but has anybody seen the new dragonball special yet? Well obviously not all the lucky japanese people... But anybody on this forum I mean...
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:18 am

saiyanprincess wrote:I don't want to sound like I'm desperate or anything, but has anybody seen the new dragonball special yet? Well obviously not all the lucky japanese people... But anybody on this forum I mean...
It WAS kind of an event for Japanese children. I mean, I'd be embarrassed to go.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:34 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
saiyanprincess wrote:I don't want to sound like I'm desperate or anything, but has anybody seen the new dragonball special yet? Well obviously not all the lucky japanese people... But anybody on this forum I mean...
It WAS kind of an event for Japanese children. I mean, I'd be embarrassed to go.
Yeah it would sort of be like a 30 year old man trying to sneak into a "Spongebob Squarepants" special.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:34 pm

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saiyanprincess wrote:I don't want to sound like I'm desperate or anything, but has anybody seen the new dragonball special yet? Well obviously not all the lucky japanese people... But anybody on this forum I mean...
It WAS kind of an event for Japanese children. I mean, I'd be embarrassed to go.
Yeah it would sort of be like a 30 year old man trying to sneak into a "Spongebob Squarepants" special.
Is it the same in Japan as here where anyone over 10 is looked at funny if they continue to watch anime and read manga? I have some friends that I went to high school with that believes something is seriously wrong with me because I do so. Then I have a professor friend that continuously thinks that his stepson who is 21 and myself have some serious fears about growing up because we prefer this form of entertainment. He believes that we should be watching sports constantly like according to him “real adults”.
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Post by The Time Traveller » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:51 pm

Aren't most of the original fans of Dragon Ball like 20 to 30 now anyway?
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Is it the same in Japan as here where anyone over 10 is looked at funny if they continue to watch anime and read manga? I have some friends that I went to high school with that believes something is seriously wrong with me because I do so. Then I have a professor friend that continuously thinks that his stepson who is 21 and myself have some serious fears about growing up because we prefer this form of entertainment. He believes that we should be watching sports constantly like according to him “real adults”.
There's actually nothing wrong with our choice of entertainment, in England the most popular form of entertainment is to watch people doing nothing to ruining their lives.
Either that or this stupid Ballroom Dancing fad, I'd rather read Japanese Comics than watch news readers take another attempt at their failed stardom.

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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:52 pm

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Saiyan-Professor wrote:Is it the same in Japan as here where anyone over 10 is looked at funny if they continue to watch anime and read manga?
From what I gather, it depends on two things: what KIND of anime/mange you’re watching & reading, and how MUCH of your life you devote to it.

There are anime and manga aimed at all different kinds of age groups. There are children’s anime and manga (aka Shonen, which something like Dragon Ball falls square into) and there’s also “Seinen” which is generally aimed at 20 somethings through the middle aged demographic.

If you’re an adult and you read Seinen manga or watch that sort of anime… no one will probably think twice about you. Were you to still be watching Shonen however… that might net you some weird looks.

And as for how much time you devote to it, it’s the same as most geek stereotypes; take it casually, and no one will really raise an eyebrow. Be an obsessive FREAK about it… and that might be another matter.

Essentially I don’t think anyone in Japan gives a shit if someone is reading manga or watching anime aimed at their proper demographic and is not fawning at the mouth over it like it’s their reason for living.

Pretty level headed way of going about it all things considered. At least they’re artistically open enough to HAVE upper demographics for this sort of thing, something which the U.S. took eons to catch onto (and in many ways is still having a hard time accepting, like the immature 4 year old we are as a culture).

I think the reason that Japan's children's properties tends to be such a smash hit with adults and older folks in other parts of the world (like the U.S.) frankly is because the Japanese take animation and comic book art SO much more seriously than most people do and have such a VASTLY more open, creatively progressive, and liberal attitude towards it, that even their children’s anime can often times be way better than most live action U.S. dramas and action films for adults.

I know I bring this up often as an example, but look at Hokuto no Ken; that was a CHIDLREN’S manga and anime in Japan… and it’s about a couple hundred BILLION times more violent, gruesome, and horrifyingly disturbing than an Eli Roth torture movie. It’s fanbase in the Western world needless to say, are all well past their 20’s and 30’s.
Saiyan-Professor wrote:I have some friends that I went to high school with that believes something is seriously wrong with me because I do so.
My personal philosophy in those instances is, “anyone who has a problem with my hobbies can rightly go fuck themselves”. So long as y’know… my hobby is something as inherently harmless as reading comics and not me being a serial killer or rapist or cannibal or nuthin’ like that. :twisted:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Then I have a professor friend that continuously thinks that his stepson who is 21 and myself have some serious fears about growing up because we prefer this form of entertainment. He believes that we should be watching sports constantly like according to him “real adults”.
With all due respect, your professor is a moron. Or at least on this particular topic he is, anyhow.

I’ve met people who subscribe to his philosophy many, many times IRL and they usually tend to be narrow thinking, bitter old fucks. The blunt reality of the ways of the world is, people HARDLY EVER fit into nice, neat, little prepackaged niches, and almost NO ONE goes through what’s generally considered a “normal” process or “normal phases” of growing up in life. There’s simply no such thing and there never was (and hopefully there never will be).

Every single solitary person who walks this planet will ALWAYS be completely different beasts from each other. Your professor’s foolishness is in expecting everyone to have the same interests and behave in the same manner, and that somehow not doing so constitutes a psychological defect of some kind, when in simple fact it’s called being human, and moreover being a free thinking individual.

We’re all of us across humanity, essentially deaf and blind idiots at the end of the day, stupidly and clumsily stumbling around the darkened room that is life while trying not to bang our knees, stub out toes, and break our necks in the process, often with decidedly mixed results at best.

Everyone, every individual in this world essentially has to march to their own beat if they wish to live a happy and fulfilling life, and that means making choices, and doing things THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU (so long as they don’t hurt others). The things that make YOU happy personally. Not you’re friends, not your parents, not the asshole who runs the 7/11 down the street, and certainly not your teachers.

And if anyone has the gall to tell you how they feel you should be living your life, then that’s someone you know to never, EVER listen to under most circumstances, and shouldn’t be shy in the least of telling them to stick their condescending, all knowing, holier than thou attitude square up their pompous ass.

Humanity is NOT made up of walking, talking Barbie and Ken dolls, which is basically what attitudes like your professor's often attempt to impress on people. No, not EVERY male on the planet essentially needs to grow up into being a beer swilling, NASCAR loving shit kicker with a thankless 9 to 5 job in order to be considered “normal”, same as not every young woman has to grow up to be a home making, soap opera watching, soccer mommy or some such horseshit to be considered a "normal" female. “Normal” is a relative and utterly meaningless term by and large in this regard.

Point is, you like to read comics and watch cartoons right? Is this somehow hurting anyone around you? Is this getting in the way of your life? No it isn’t? Does it make you happy? Yes it does? Then have at it by all means and all the more power to you. And tell any cocksucker who says different to go straight to hell and get fucked.

Be yourself and be proud of who you are and the things that give you pleasure and that you feel passionate for and that essentially make you… you.

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Your very colorful post essentially depicts how I feel on the matter and I have attempted on many occasions to convey those very same sentiments (in an edited manner of course). Yet, he continues to feel that those who gravitate to that form of entertainment are the equivalent of the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. He focuses more on that issue then the various projects that we are attempting to complete at times. It gets old, and I usually wind up having to hold myself back from cursing him out. As I explained to him in the past that watching cartoons/anime and reading comics/manga is a tradition that began with my father and it is something that I plan on passing to my children in the future, in addition to this I just like the stuff plain and simple. As you said, there are other things he should be concerned about that people call hobbies in this world.
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Saiyan-Professor wrote:Then I have a professor friend that continuously thinks that his stepson who is 21 and myself have some serious fears about growing up because we prefer this form of entertainment. He believes that we should be watching sports constantly like according to him “real adults”.
What kind of professor is this? There's a psychological theory that if you still envision yourself as a fantastical hero (superpowers, or any other means of overcoming insurmountable odds with you being a hero), you have the emotional (not psychological) maturaty of a child.

If he's subscribing to that theory, your professor friend is a twit. His recommendation is to go one step up and stay there, which is actually worse. It means you're adversarial, that you want to be a hero figure, but only through competition. Though better in that you recognize this state is superior by being more realistic, this can be harmful to your well-being and the well-being of those you compete with. You're supposed to quickly realize this an evolve into the young adult emotional maturaty.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:15 pm

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Saiyan-Professor wrote:Then I have a professor friend that continuously thinks that his stepson who is 21 and myself have some serious fears about growing up because we prefer this form of entertainment. He believes that we should be watching sports constantly like according to him “real adults”.
What kind of professor is this? There's a psychological theory that if you still envision yourself as a fantastical hero (superpowers, or any other means of overcoming insurmountable odds with you being a hero), you have the emotional (not psychological) maturaty of a child.

If he's subscribing to that theory, your professor friend is a twit. His recommendation is to go one step up and stay there, which is actually worse. It means you're adversarial, that you want to be a hero figure, but only through competition. Though better in that you recognize this state is superior by being more realistic, this can be harmful to your well-being and the well-being of those you compete with. You're supposed to quickly realize this an evolve into the young adult emotional maturaty.
I guess it is the thinking that comics/manga and cartoons/anime is for little kids and that adults are to be obsessed with sports, the evening news and the History channel which are things that I like (except sports) but they do not encompass the entirety of my tastes. I can understand if I was running around with a bath towel around my neck and attempting to jump off a roof as if I was Batman, Superman or Mr. Satan. But I do things like any other person of my age I go out and I had girlfriends in the past even though I lack one now (I do not need any distractions at this time because of graduate school). Moreover, I am not the in your face competitive type, so this is a hang-up that he has. Yet, I find many people making similar statements towards others and myself. When I would go to the nearest Borders bookstore while at the mall and check out the latest manga you will find people from all age brackets posted up reading manga and checking out anime. Then you will have some people walk in and pass by the aisle shaking their heads as if we were doing something wrong.
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