Ages! (oh boy...)

parron · Post by **parron** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:24 pm

I've just decided that I am completely wrong / confused in regards to character ages, and so being too lazy to sort things out myself, I've decided to go pester you guys about them.

See, I've always been under various impressions (like DBGT taking place 10 years after DBZ, or Gohan being 18 during Majin Buu), but lately I've started to believe I might be missing a few key details. I've looked at copies of the timeline and further confused myself -- I've even tried to manually add and subtract birth dates and event dates, but right when I think everything is perfect -- Wham! -- I read somewhere that Gohan was sixteen and confuse myself all over again.

In other words, I'm lost, confused, and rather desprate for help on this one... Help and/or clarity, please?

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:57 pm

Well, according to the Daizenshuu and GT Perfect File, GT takes place 5 years after Goku leaves to train Uub. And, to be honest, I'm gonna conitnue using it until a more reliable source, like Toei or Toriyama, says that it is, in fact, 10 years.

Meri · Post by **Meri** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:15 pm

B-kun wrote:Well, according to the Daizenshuu and GT Perfect File, GT takes place 5 years after Goku leaves to train Uub. And, to be honest, I'm gonna conitnue using it until a more reliable source, like Toei or Toriyama, says that it is, in fact, 10 years.

5 years, really? I've always hear 7 or 10, but never 5. God, if that's the case, then the Trunks Timelines on my site are *severely* inaccurate, and I've been spreading misinformation. Ugh. ;_;

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:20 pm

I heard that 5 years is the "official" time span between Z and GT, even though Funimation claims it's 10 years on their website. (And how can we possibly refute Funimations hard facts?

)

Given that, at the begining of GT, the characters would be:

Trunks: 18
Goten: 17
Pan: 9
Bra: 9
Gohan: 28

I can't remember for Bulma, Chi chi, or Goku & Vegeta (who make it even more confusing, because they were in the Room of Spirit and Time, and Goku was dead for 7 years)

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:45 pm

I don't think that Chi Chi's age is ever mentioned at all in either the manga or the anime. I think that it's just assumed she's the same age as Goku. With Bulma if you do the math, she's 49 by the end of DBZ if you don't take into account months and when her birthday is, (which is never said in the anime or manga).

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:49 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:Given that, at the begining of GT, the characters would be:

Trunks: 18
Goten: 17
Pan: 9
Bra: 9
Gohan: 28

Err... Trunks and Goten were 18 and 17 at the end of DBZ. Gohan was 26. Given that, I don't think what you have for them is correct.

Assuming 5 years pass, the characters would be these ages:
Goku: 50 or 51 (physically 12)
Trunks: 23
Goten: 22
Pan: 9
Bra: 8 or 10 (depending on whether you subscribe to the "older" or "younger" belief)
Gohan: 31 (physically 32, though it wouldn't matter much)
Videl: 31
Uub: 15
Bulma: 54 or 55
Chi-Chi: 50 or 51
Marron: 17 or 18
Kuririn: 51 or 52
Piccolo: 36 years since hatching from Piccolo-Daimaou's egg (though combining with Nail and Kami-sama complicates things...).
Kame-sen'nin: He was ancient when the series started. Well over 300.

Just add 5 to all those for the "10 years" idea. What complicates things is that not everyone really seems to match their prescribed age in either time frame -- so it keeps people guessing, I guess.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:14 pm

DB is renown for that anyway. I'm not going to bother repeating my argument. Just acccept that GT is officially 5 years after Z. <_<

And I KNEW FUNi would claim that GT was ten years later. I just knew it.

EDIT Just checked the timeline on Greg's site. Even that only lists it as Buruma, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha as being born in 733 AD.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:18 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:Err... Trunks and Goten were 18 and 17 at the end of DBZ. Gohan was 26. Given that, I don't think what you have for them is correct.

Assuming 5 years pass, the characters would be these ages:

Oh yeah, I was thinking that there was only 5 years between Boo's defeat, and Oob's appearance at the tournament.

parron · Post by **parron** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:32 pm

Okay, thanks! I'm a bit less confused now, although the fact that Bra is apparently 8/9 in DBGT is scaring me a little, what with the outfit and all. o.o;;

Dai · Post by **Dai** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:45 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote: Pan: 9
Bra: 8 or 9

Wasn't it mentioned at some point that Bra's one year older than Pan? or is my memory acting up again?

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:55 pm

If Bra might be 8, maybe you just had the two mixed up?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:49 pm

The problem with 5-years is that it doesn't matter if Gohan is 31 or 36, or even if Goten is 22 or 27 (he has been spoilt, and that could lead to him being slightly immature).

There's a hell of a problem though in Bra being 8 or 9. Because she looks far, far, far too old to be 8 or 9.

And with regards to Kame Sen'nin, doesn't Karin say that only one person has ever gotten the sacred water off of him in the past 300 years? Or does he say that one person got the sacred water off of him 300 years ago?

parron · Post by **parron** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:56 pm

I don't know about looking *that* old -- as I recall, she's flat chested -- but her outfit *for sure* implies that ten years works a lot better. I mean, does the world really need 8-year-old hookers? (whether or not 13/14 year old hookers is any better shall be ignored)

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:01 am

Sorry, I meant to write "old", not "young". And I don't think she's flat-chested. As I recall, she had a chest at least equivalent to Misty's from Pokemon, if not quite up to Jessie's level.

parron · Post by **parron** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:11 am

As much as it weirds me out to be argueing over a minor character's chest size, I can't recall seeing Bra with any boobs at all in DBGT. And, with her outfit, I'd think it would be easy to tell. >__>

Post by **TripleRach** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:04 am

PsyLiam wrote:And with regards to Kame Sen'nin, doesn't Karin say that only one person has ever gotten the sacred water off of him in the past 300 years? Or does he say that one person got the sacred water off of him 300 years ago?

Ah yeah, that's right. He basically says only one other person was able to scale the tower, about three hundred years in the past.

There's another person we can add to the list. Karin is around 800.

Dai · Post by **Dai** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:09 am

PsyLiam wrote:
There's a hell of a problem though in Bra being 8 or 9. Because she looks far, far, far too young to be 8 or 9.

Uh... Okay, I can't seen any logic behind that statement, no matter how I look at it. When Goku was 14 he still looked younger than Bra does. When Gohan was twelve he still looked younger than Bra does. Bra looks and acts like the eptitome of the word ''teen'' throughout GT, and you say looks far too young to even be 8 years old...? If anything, the five year time difference is much too small a period for Pan and Bra to have grown up so much. Ten years still looks a lot more realistic to me.

Then again, GT was never quite known for making sense...

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:23 am

No, you're right, it doesn't make sense. That's because I keep using "young" instead of "old" and vice-versa. I really, honetly, truelly meant to say that she looks far too old to be 8 or 9 during GT. Completely.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:08 pm

Daizenshuu:

Pan is 4 at end of Manga.
Bra, in timeline, is 1 year younger than Pan, but an error in her bio makes her 1 year older than Pan.

The GT Daizenshuu says 5 years go by between Z+GT. Therefore Pan is 9 and Bra is either 8 or 10.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:24 pm

Isnt Goku in his late 60's by the end of GT?