Dragonball Movie to Do Reshoots

[Kendamu]

I love how the main people against the movie know next to nothing about it. It takes 2 seconds to do a little research. I mean if you're gonna be against something at least be accurate about it. You can't just look at a handful of pictures and read a few sarcastic ass comments on a message board and then think that's enough.

If I have to do in-depth research of a movie to decide whether I'm interested in seeing it or not, then something's wrong here. I have a general idea already of why I might or might not see the movie. Based on several screenshots, a leaked teaser, and a few posters, only one poster is easily recognizable as the Dragonball I know and love.

That poster would be the Japanese poster with Goku in the Kame uniform from behind with a very colorful background. As far as I've been told, that as doctored a little bit to look more colorful than the original scan. Other than that, so far everything else has been all Earthy tones and dark stuff.

If advertisements at a later time closer to when the movie hits theaters convince me that the movie is mostly going to be like that colorful poster that just screams, "Lighthearted martial arts adventure with a few serious twists here and there," then I'll likely go see the damn movie.

To put it simply, most of everything I've seen so far feels like a visual representation of Bruce Fulconer music. I don't like Bruce Fulconer's music. That one poster I saw that I really like feels like a visual representation of Makafushigi Adventure or Cha-La Head Cha-La on full-blast injecting pure happiness into my brain. If advertising convincens me that its going to be surgically-implanted happiness, I'll go see it.

I don't want a "hardcore" Dragonball movie that has the color scheme of the bastard child of Gears of War and Halo.

[Tsukento]

That is bad logic, I think. That's like saying that because the Spider-Man movie does not include mechanical web shooters, and doesn't explain that Peter Parker developed them himself thanks to spider instincts carried over from the bite...that web shooting doesn't make any sense in the Spider-Man films.

When, in fact, the Spider-Man of the movies simply has organic web shooters as part of the spider bite, to save on time. As much as I'm annoyed by the change, it's really nothing major and serves an important purpose: It doesn't force fans to sit through explanations of stuff they already know and doesn't confuse non-fans through exposition that may actually slow a film narrative.

Now, it has poetential to turn out to be TERRIBLE. But it also has the potential to work rather well. We just don't know enough about the nature of the film story to know if they've developed an appropriate narrative stand-in, or a change of events.

Noooot quite the same thing. I'm talking about actual background histories being changed that only ends raising a bunch of questions. One doesn't need to be a genius to figure out Spider-Man shooting webbing in the movie is due to the radioactive spider bite and part of his whole being like a spider.

Again, how would Piccolo know Goku is a Saiyan if the common trait in Saiyans are their tails and Goku has no tail? How would Piccolo know what a Saiyan is to begin with? Unless they plan to do a Burdock kind of flash back, there's really no way Piccolo could logically assume Goku's a Saiyan.

Cause of his strength and power? Who's to say no human could be like hi--oh right, I forget. Yamcha's an artillery wielding dude who rides around in heavily armed vehicles instead of being a martial artist, Kurirn and Tenshinhan are no where to be found, and Roshi's the only one that trains Goku to beat Piccolo. Let's just further push the idea that Goku's the only strong guy around on the hero side.

[MisterFlashdude]

Soooo... locking? Prove me wrong.

Seconded.

This went way wrong like 4 pages ago.

I think everyone's made their points. Now it's just a matter of people trying to get other people to either change their opinion or tell them to keep it to themselves, and it's just sad.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

Noooot quite the same thing. I'm talking about actual background histories being changed that only ends raising a bunch of questions. One doesn't need to be a genius to figure out Spider-Man shooting webbing in the movie is due to the radioactive spider bite and part of his whole being like a spider.

Again, how would Piccolo know Goku is a Saiyan if the common trait in Saiyans are their tails and Goku has no tail? How would Piccolo know what a Saiyan is to begin with? Unless they plan to do a Burdock kind of flash back, there's really no way Piccolo could logically assume Goku's a Saiyan.

Cause of his strength and power? Who's to say no human could be like hi--oh right, I forget. Yamcha's an artillery wielding dude who rides around in heavily armed vehicles instead of being a martial artist, Kurirn and Tenshinhan are no where to be found, and Roshi's the only one that trains Goku to beat Piccolo. Let's just further push the idea that Goku's the only strong guy around on the hero side.

The sarcastic humor doesn't help the argument, but the rest of it deserves addressing:

I simply disagree. We already know about Piccolo's being the demonic half of a God is being scrapped. That's fine. So, with some more tweaking, things could work. Piccolo is an alien, after all. It won't take much of a stretch for a non-amnesiac alien to take the narrative role of Raditz, to help condense the thing.

Again, we don't KNOW how they'll handle the narrative yet. So, we can fairly reasonably assume that something isn't there. But we don't know if it's being replaced by something that makes sense for time's sake.

So, like I said before, we only have knowledge of HALF the thing you're criticizing. You say it doesn't make sense, while not knowing how or if the thing doesn't.

Now, I'm not saying it WILL make sense. But the burden of proof is on you, and your logic is somewhat faulty in this case...as it's only half informed.

[Kaboom]

Well, I know you were making an analogy, but as far as actual music goes, Brian Tyler's outlook on the film seems promising.

[Kendamu]

Soooo... locking? Prove me wrong.

Naw. I think we'll be fine to civilly, yet strongly, express our disagreements with each other.

[Xyex]

See how completely confusing this story becomes when the source material is done away with?

No, that's just how confusing it is without knowing the full details. You're complaining about something not making sense when you haven't been told how it happens yet. It's like someone telling you about the series for the first time and telling you that Tamborine killed Krillin and then skipping ahead and saying that Goku goes SSJ when Freeza kills Krillin, and never mentioning the DBs or Krillin being revived. You don't have all the facts so of course it doesn't make sense.

To take the previously mentioned Spider-man bit. If all you knew about the movie was that he could web sling but didn't make web shooters like in the comics that wouldn't make much sense either, would it, since you're lacking the bit of information that tells you he's got natural webbing.

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And I know this is old but I didn't see anyone else comment on it so....

Devastator is supposed to be a merger of all 5 Constructicons, not a separate Decepticon.

Devastator's not in the movie. Ignore the subtitles, they're wrong. That was actually Brawl. Bay's even admitted to the mistake, and knowing about the mistake before release and not fixing it because he didn't want to spend the money.

[Big Momma]

When, in fact, the Spider-Man of the movies simply has organic web shooters as part of the spider bite, to save on time. As much as I'm annoyed by the change, it's really nothing major and serves an important purpose: It doesn't force fans to sit through explanations of stuff they already know and doesn't confuse non-fans through exposition that may actually slow a film narrative.

I actually liked this change. It's a lot more convinient than mechanical web shooters. Personally, I would prefer it.


There hasn't been any new news on this movie in about a week, and to top it off, I'm a little behind. Does anyone know why or for what purpose their re-shooting the movie?

[TheGreatness25]

I say they should reshoot the entire thing with a brand new script and a brand new cast.

[Chuquita]

I say they should reshoot the entire thing with a brand new script and a brand new cast.

Can't speak for the rest of the cast (as I haven't really overly seen them in anything else), but I just want to see Chatwin replaced.


Also, no "school", no "it girl", and no OC high schoolers.

[MisterFlashdude]

Does anyone know why or for what purpose their re-shooting the movie?

Pick-ups?

[Chrono Trigger]

Maybe they'll edit out the High School part altogether. That seems like the biggest criticism the movie has. That and Piccolo not being green. If they fix that then there really nothing to complain about. Well there's the fact that the movie doesn't look interesting at all but they gave that whole "It's not a real teaser" excuse so who knows.

[TheGreatness25]

Maybe they were told that they would get sued for ripping off the first Mortal Kombat movie, so they decided to steer to the safe side.

[JAPPO]

I doubt Fox takes people's pre-mature opinions on minor plot points that seriously (talking about high school).

You haven't seen the movie therefore Fox and James Wong probably think high school works in the context of the movie. They aren't going to take the opinions of someone who hasn't seen the movie in the proper context.

See the movie, then make your claims. Saying "Goku is a wimp" from one line of dialogue is pure idiocy.

[mrkaizoku]

Re-shoots are a bad sign. It's an especially bad sign considering that this movie was supposed to be finished already. It means that something isn't making narrative sense. We're not talking about ADR here. We're talking about full blown re-shoots. Definitely a big deal.


Now, these re-shoots could have a positive effect on this movie, but at this point it's kind of like putting band-aids on someone that's been eviscerated.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

Re-shoots are a bad sign. It's an especially bad sign considering that this movie was supposed to be finished already. It means that something isn't making narrative sense. We're not talking about ADR here. We're talking about full blown re-shoots. Definitely a big deal.


Now, these re-shoots could have a positive effect on this movie, but at this point it's kind of like putting band-aids on someone that's been eviscerated.

How did you come to this conclusion?

No matter what your OPINION of the movie is, you simply can't assume the logic for the re-shoots. Especially since it's an insanely common practice in movie-making today.

There are so many reasons that re-shoots could be done, a "narrative issue" being most likely the least of them. It seems to me that it'd more likely to deal with action scenes...or to put in just a few snippets of extra footage.

It doesn't bode well or bad for the movie. We don't have to bend over backwards to find reasons to like or hate a movie that isn't out yet.

And besides, even if you are ABSOLUTELY and COMPLETELY right, wouldn't you prefer for them to fix a glaring problem, rather than leave it be?

[Kaboom]

Yes, re-shoots and pickups happen all the time. It's not automatically because they decided to rewrite a scene or anything like that. It could be, but not usually. Things happen in editing where they notice continuity errors or slip-ups in the framing where you can see crew people and stuff like that.

[Kendamu]

Saying "Goku is a wimp" from one line of dialogue is pure idiocy.

Then maybe they should've chosen a better line. You can't seriously tell me, "Go spend $9 then tell me if you want to see the movie." Instead, they're just going to have to do a better job advertising it. So far, not having a trailer out when they were supposed to is bad and the marketing trailer that seems to paint Goku as, "...not ready for this," doesn't really give us vibes of a strong martial artist adventurer with a bit of a naive side.

[Taku128]

Saying "Goku is a wimp" from one line of dialogue is pure idiocy.

Then maybe they should've chosen a better line. You can't seriously tell me, "Go spend $9 then tell me if you want to see the movie." Instead, they're just going to have to do a better job advertising it. So far, not having a trailer out when they were supposed to is bad and the marketing trailer that seems to paint Goku as, "...not ready for this," doesn't really give us vibes of a strong martial artist adventurer with a bit of a naive side.

But we weren't supposed to see that trailer, it was for whoever that trailer was for (I forgot). For all we know he could have been talking about a test at school.

[Kaboom]

For all we know he could have been talking about a test at school.

More likely it's something along the lines of "Piccolo kicked my Grandpa's/Roshi's/my ass once already, I don't know if I can fight him again yet."