RUMOR: First review of DRAGONBALL movie (6.5/10)

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:38 am

Sounds like all it did was use rumors and stuff we already know.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:32 am

desirecampbell wrote:I'm going to agree with Kaboom on this; not written professionally, no sources, no mention of how the film might change due to the new filming going on right now.

Er... The guy did mention the last part (not that it matters as far as the legitimacy of the review is concerned), and most early reviews don't come from professional critics.
The only problem I could see with that review is that we aren't told how the guy saw the movie at all. But that doesn't necessarily make it fake. It could be, but...

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:29 am

Olivier Hague wrote:Er... The guy did mention the last part (not that it matters as far as the legitimacy of the review is concerned), and most early reviews don't come from professional critics.
The only problem I could see with that review is that we aren't told how the guy saw the movie at all. But that doesn't necessarily make it fake. It could be, but...

He easily could have seen it at a prescreening, but if that were true it would mean that they’re prescreening the movie at the same time they’re reshooting scenes for it, which doesnt make a lot of sense, because the whole point of prescreening is to guage audience reactions and see whether they need to change anything or not.

If they’re reshooting as the result of such a screening, then why did he wait over 10 days to report it? (We first heard of the reshoots from a casting site on the 17th, which means they probably decided to do so even earlier).

If it’s a logistical/continuity thing, it might not have a huge bearing on the overall movie, but then why would they be in such a rush to screen it before they’re finished when they still have 5 more months to put it out?

I realize there could be numerous, plausible explanations to these questions, but honestly, the thing reads like every other attention-seeker’s [usually bogus] claims on the Internet. We already had one of these on the IMDb boards, and that poster couldn’t provide anything but vague allusions to facts that had already come out, as well unspecific details that easily could have been interpolated from said facts, altogether while risking her alleged career and providing no sources. We didn’t believe her, and yet we’re supposed to treat this guy, who has managed to say even less, and is actually more vague, as potentially telling the truth? Please. Any one of us here could write something similar, send it in, and get it posted. As far as I’m concerned, without a source or at least somewhat credible story, such people should not be taken seriously.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:29 pm

While I'm skeptical about all this, remember that sometimes people aren't legally allowed to say about these things. Not really saying that's the case, but there's the possibility of an NDA involved.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:39 pm

If the review is accurate, I have more expectations for this movie than I did from seeing the trailer. If the Oozaru scene is legit, that really excites me.

I hope for Matrix 3 quality fight scenes, but i doubt it.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:44 pm

Tsukento wrote:While I'm skeptical about all this, remember that sometimes people aren't legally allowed to say about these things. Not really saying that's the case, but there's the possibility of an NDA involved.

From the phrasing in this “review” I doubt this person even knows what that means.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:57 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:We already had one of these on the IMDb boards, and that poster couldn’t provide anything but vague allusions to facts that had already come out, as well unspecific details that easily could have been interpolated from said facts, altogether while risking her alleged career and providing no sources. We didn’t believe her, and yet we’re supposed to treat this guy, who has managed to say even less, and is actually more vague, as potentially telling the truth? Please.

Actually, I don't remember not believing that other girl, myself. ^^;
In both cases, I file that under "maybe legit, maybe not". In my special "don't really give a fuck anyway" drawer.

Besides, even if it's legit, I doubt that reviewer and I have enough in common for his opinion to matter to me...

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:02 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:I hope for Matrix 3 quality fight scenes, but i doubt it.

I have been thinking that exact thing since the beginning! There is one fight scene in particular that I feel would fit perfectly into a live-action Dragonball movie if only the costumes were changed (the final Smith vs Neo fight).

I link to it when I get home, since I'm at school right now and YouTube is blocked.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:31 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Actually, I don't remember not believing that other girl, myself. ^^;
In both cases, I file that under "maybe legit, maybe not". In my special "don't really give a fuck anyway" drawer.

Besides, even if it's legit, I doubt that reviewer and I have enough in common for his opinion to matter to me...

Well, that’s more or less my take; that is to say, I could easily reverse my opinion if some sort of evidence came out to support these peoples’ claims, but until then, I would rather not even give them the benefit of the doubt because a lot of them come out and say this stuff JUST to create rumors, which the public so desperately want to believe in because they’re starved for info; and all that does is fuel their supposed legitimacy. If 100 different accounts of what happens in the movie came out before we received any more news than we have now, assuming I even bothered to pay attention to them at all I could not seriously put them all into the same category; I would have filter out the less likely from the more likely based on what we knew, and the apparent holes in their accounts. I think that only makes sense.

GI_Judd2287 · Post by **GI_Judd2287** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:55 pm

It doesn't take a genius to know that that review is bull shit.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:04 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
when Piccolo takes out his huge fucking ass sword with weird rectangle shape tablet attached it at the tip of sword and slamming it on goku was fucking awesome
Piccolo with a sword? Where have I seen this before...

Okay, slightly off topic, but I've said it before and I'll say it again.

What's the fucking point of packaging an action figure with a sword when said action figure can't even hold it?

I remember seeing this kind of thing when those toys first came out, and how fucking perplexed I was by it.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:25 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Piccolo with a sword? Where have I seen this before...

After Trunks, Dabura, Janemba, Tapion, Gohan, Mercenary Tao, that one guy from movie 8 and probably some other characters I don't know of were shown wielding blades, I have to wonder why people seem insistent on twisting their own scrotums about Movie Piccolo having one.

A machine gun or bazooka, sure (although no-one ballyhooed like their whole family was killed when Mecha Freeza was given a bazooka in Super DBZ...maybe GLORIOUS NIPPON overcame the urge to whine harder than Tony Stark off the wagon?), but a sword? We've seen plenty of swords.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:31 pm

I agree. IMO, giving him a sword is about the only way to make Piccolo any more badass than he already is. I'm beginning to get a very "Ganondorf" vibe from this new version of Piccolo, and I like it.

P.S. - I think you mean Gokua, Bojack's henchman who fought Trunks? That's Movie 9. >_>

P.S. - In the tradition of things not being worth their own threads, I present a brand-new little video clip that's just popped up on Japanese TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqTjF_xRm3k

Goku opening up a box with the 4-star ball (presumably the one Gohan gave him for his birthday) and one with the Kame school uniform.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:44 pm

Thought I should share my find: http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/dragonball/discovery

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:53 pm

That was WAY more interesting compared to that other trailer they showed at the start of October.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:56 pm

Rocketman wrote:After Trunks, Dabura, Janemba, Tapion, Gohan, Mercenary Tao, that one guy from movie 8 and probably some other characters I don't know of were shown wielding blades, I have to wonder why people seem insistent on twisting their own scrotums about Movie Piccolo having one.

Wow, I didn’t realize how many people in the series actually had weapons. But yeah, I don’t think it’s really that huge of a deal. But at the same time, the characters don’t really stand to benefit anything from having weapons. Ki is already plenty versatile and destructive. Not to mention most of the characters can catch blades and bullets with their fingers, move faster than most projectiles, and if a planet blows up, they come out with a few scratches. They up the cool factor, sure, but in a DBZ match, they hardly ever come into serious play.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:58 pm

As King Kold found out the hard way, it's not so much the weapon that matters, but who's using it. So long as the weapon itself is durable enough or enchanted or something, it can only make a super-powered ki user more deadly, not less.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:09 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:As King Kold found out the hard way, it's not so much the weapon that matters, but who's using it. So long as the weapon itself is durable enough or enchanted or something, it can only make a super-powered ki user more deadly, not less.

Granted, but Kold was a pushover, and Trunks just used his sword to make an entrance.

In an even match he would wouldn’t be able to rely on it, as Gokū clearly demonstrated.

Also, that clip is just… way… too… short. For all my misgivings about this movie, I’m still curious as hell about it, and it really sucks being teased like this for months at a time.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:12 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Sun_Wukong wrote:I hope for Matrix 3 quality fight scenes, but i doubt it.
I have been thinking that exact thing since the beginning! There is one fight scene in particular that I feel would fit perfectly into a live-action Dragonball movie if only the costumes were changed (the final Smith vs Neo fight).

I link to it when I get home, since I'm at school right now and YouTube is blocked.

I'm actually expecting more of something along the lines of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriMpVafXDY

Maybe a notch lower than it actually..

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:19 pm

Snail wrote:I'm actually expecting more of something along the lines of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriMpVafXDY

I would certainly hope so; that was ten different levels of gnarly.

I do think they need to leave some headroom as far as how "extreme" or "high-scale" the battles are. Otherwise the sequels could end up suffering from "GT syndrome" and look a lot less impressive than supposedly "weaker" fights from the previous series are. I say let's leave the Smith vs Neo-esque stuff for Goku vs Vegeta or something. For the first movie, keep it more Kung Fu than "Superman."