Help with deciding on "remastered" DBZ.

Deep Thought · Post by **Deep Thought** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:54 pm

I intend on getting the Season Sets for Dragon Ball Z. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday soon. Anyway, I would like people to give a rating for all of the Dragon Ball Z/GT Season sets/movies. Why do this? Well, I don't intend on buying these in order, so one thing that will really determine my personal order of the "remastered" sets is quality. I've heard that some of them almost come close to Dragon Box quality. However:

1. Only Rate Season Sets that you Bought/Saw First Hand: I don't want to hear people say, "Well, I've heard from >INSERT RANDOM GUY'S USERNAME HERE< that Season 5 is terrible." That isn't going to help me at all. I'd like people who actually saw the Season Sets in full DVD quality to post their opinions.

2. No General Bashing on the Sets: Don't say "All Season Sets are garbage, but the Dragon Boxes instead!" I've made my decision that I am going to get the season sets.

3. No Widescreen dissing unless the widescreen is particularly bad: Again, I've made the choice to tolerate the widescreen quality of the releases. So, unless the widescreen is really bad (I.E Character's heads being cut off most of the time), don't bother talking about it.

That is all.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:07 am

In my opinion they all get progressively better.

With the exception of season 2...that set has AWFUL colors. Everything is extremely bright and all the characters skin is nearly angelically light.

Season 3 onward is where I feel you get a good deal when it comes to colors and quality.

Oh and the specials and movies look GREAT, they are by far the best releases you could buy.

As for ratings

Season 1- 6/10
Season 2-3/10
Season 3- 8/10
Season 4 - 8/10
Season 5- 8/10

That's as far as I own

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:11 am

Deep Thought wrote:I've made my decision that I am going to get the season sets.

Doesn't that make this whole topic...err, moot?

All your answers can be found in other threads though.

-Corey

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:12 am

Here are my Pros/Cons of the Season sets that I've purchased by set:

Season 1(is the same for Seasons 3-6 as well):
Pros
Decent redub with Funi voices
Cleaned up picture
Awesome price
Subs by the God of Dragonball subtitling(Daimao)

Cons:
Missing lines(really got bad during the Nappa slaughter)
Sometimes bleached out colors
No Insert songs for the dub with Japanese BGM(became a non issue. I stopped with the dub after Season 3)

Season 2:
Pros
Got to own my favorite episodes on DVD for the 1st time
Good price
Decent redub
Awesome subs

Cons:
The worst of all season sets. The remastering destroyed already damaged episodes with bleaching of the colors. Easily the worst R1 DVD set I own concerning actual video quality.

I get these sets for the price and subs.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:16 am

Well, let's see. One thing about their overall quality seems to be that they've gotten better as they've gone on. Seasons 1 and 2 were kind of iffy each in their own ways, but the sets since then have only improved and never looked back. The disappearing lines issue that was such an annoyance in earlier seasons has all but disappeared itself in more recent ones.

As far as cropping goes, you've apparently come to feel the same way about it as I do; Not a big deal for me, I don't notice anything cut off, and hey, FUNimation's partly right as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I know that's not the original aspect ratio, but I personally can dig the "cinematic" feel of it just fine. Whatever floats your boat.

I own all of the sets up through Six, and I'll hopefully find a way to scrounge up the cash for Seven not too long after it hits stores. It's kind of hard to rate each one specifically, since the bar has only risen with each set, but here's a few points I can remember.

Season One had blurring problems, with some smaller details kind of being smudged together at times. The colors were a bit off, too.

Season Two I'd consider the worst-looking; there was less blurring, but in exchange, the brightness and saturation were just plain horrible at times. Character's faces were washed-out and pale to the point where they looked pure, bright white at times. Still watchable, but you'll have to fiddle with your player's display settings a bit for some parts.

Season Three is when things started looking up. The colors were much better handled and pleasing to the eye. The blurring was insignificant to the point of unnoticeable, and the disappearing lines were few and far between. Seasons Four and Five were of about the same quality, with the exception of there being noticeably less and less disappearing lines as they went on (I was particularly relieved that the Final Flash scene wasn't ruined by them, since there's a LOT of shaking goingon).

Then Season Six set the bar. Very good colors, better than the singles and close the the DragonBox's "true" colors. The picture was very sharp, with zero loss of detail and noticeable grain. I personally never noticed a single disappearing line.

I don't own it yet, but from Season Seven's screenshots, it looks pretty good, probably as good as Six. I can't really pass judgment on it until I own and watch it myself though.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:56 am

Season 1 also suffers from film damage.

As mentioned, these sets suffer from vanishing lines during scenes that involve the screen shaking.

That's from Season 3, as an example.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:28 am

With the ground rules you set for this thread, you're just asking for people to justify your purchases.

You get what you pay for. Jumpy, dirty frames. Colors being off (especially on Season 2). However, lots of episodes.

You get what you pay for and I can say this based off of Seasons 1 through 4 and the Trunks/Bardock specials.

You don't mind those quality issues? Spend the money. That's all I can say based off of what you're telling me I can say.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:38 am

He wants help deciding which sets to start with, so he's asking for help comparing specific sets to others in the series. Not just another thread talking about the pros and cons of the sets in general.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:45 am

Well, if he's gonna get 'em no matter what, he should try the beginning.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:11 am

Just for the record season sets never came close to dragon box. I've yet to see a set which comes close to dragon box colors. Besides, this thread is kinda useless, we already had an in depth thread for each set with comparison picks and such...

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:04 am

I own the season one and two sets and despite them being my favourite portions of all of DBZ, and I never watch them.

They both look absolutely horrible, season 2 is pretty much unwatchable.

DragoonClawNZ · Post by **DragoonClawNZ** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:19 am

Wow, it may seem as if I'm the only one here who truly supports the Season Sets. I personally don't have an interest in getting the Dragonboxes, I love how the Season Sets look.

Even though Season One and Two may look oversaturated but I still find it really sharp on my TV. As for the disappearing lines, I find it appealing in a way, I'm not going to bother explaining why. Though I have to say, Season Six is by far the best release yet, was very happy with the result.

But if you feel as if you want the Season Sets and Steelbook Double Features, go for it, you won't be disappointed by what you purchase.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:27 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:Well, let's see.

Anything that SSj Kaboom says after this point is pretty spot-on. I highly recommend his interpretations of the individual sets' image quality as compared to one another.

~Da Lemmy

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:57 am

DragoonClawNZ wrote:But if you feel as if you want the Season Sets and Steelbook Double Features, go for it, you won't be disappointed by what you purchase.

That's a damn lie, as some of us wanted these sets and were disappointed by our purchases.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:00 am

Or some of us never bought the sets in protest of a shitty release.

DragoonClawNZ · Post by **DragoonClawNZ** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:00 am

Tsukento wrote:
DragoonClawNZ wrote:But if you feel as if you want the Season Sets and Steelbook Double Features, go for it, you won't be disappointed by what you purchase.
That's a damn lie, as some of us wanted these sets and were disappointed by our purchases.

Hey, it's a opinion, so calm down. It's because you are comparing them to the Dragonboxes, not the original FUNimation volumes.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:04 am

DragoonClawNZ wrote:Hey, it's a opinion, so calm down. It's because you are comparing them to the Dragonboxes, not the original FUNimation volumes.

I never said a single thing regarding the Dragon Box. I'm talking about genuinely being disappointed due to the ACTUAL flaws that exist within the discs.

DragoonClawNZ · Post by **DragoonClawNZ** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:07 am

Tsukento wrote:
DragoonClawNZ wrote:Hey, it's a opinion, so calm down. It's because you are comparing them to the Dragonboxes, not the original FUNimation volumes.
I never said a single thing regarding the Dragon Box. I'm talking about genuinely being disappointed due to the ACTUAL flaws that exist within the discs.

If you think that's flaw, compare it to the Madman Australian and New Zealand Season Set releases. They have so many flaws compared to the American releases.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:12 am

DragoonClawNZ wrote:If you think that's flaw, compare it to the Madman Australian and New Zealand Season Set releases. They have so many flaws compared to the American releases.

Again, I'm not comparing ANY sets with releases from other countries. I'm talking about JUST the US sets. I don't care how Australia or New Zealand got them. I'm saying that the American release DOES have flaws that range from film damage to missing music to lines not being fixed that contain errors to color distortion to cropped footage.

When the US sets have issues that don't exist in older US releases, there is certainly a problem.

DragoonClawNZ · Post by **DragoonClawNZ** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:14 am

Tsukento wrote:
DragoonClawNZ wrote:If you think that's flaw, compare it to the Madman Australian and New Zealand Season Set releases. They have so many flaws compared to the American releases.
Again, I'm not comparing ANY sets with releases from other countries. I'm talking about JUST the US sets. I don't care how Australia or New Zealand got them. I'm saying that the American release DOES have flaws that range from film damage to missing music to lines not being fixed that contain errors to color distortion to cropped footage.

I don't care about all that and I prefer the cropping, I personally love the 'cinematic' feel to it. Anyway, enough of this.

Kanzenshuu

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