Wrong character models used in-show

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:40 pm

We've had terrible animation threads, but have we ever had wrong character model threads?

I just caught this now:

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:56 pm

Well, in the fight against Freeza, Krillin flies away, yelling to Gohan to do the same, and he is wearing the Kame-gi, not his armor.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:00 pm

Didn't Mr. Toriyama do this by accident in the manga with the exact same scene?

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:21 pm

Ok, I give up.
I don't see it.

EDIT: Oh no, wait. Vegeta, I got it.

Yamcha_krillin · Post by **Yamcha_krillin** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:45 pm

I still don't get it

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:55 pm

Vegeta should have switched to his light-armor with black tights by now.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:58 pm

It took me a little while to get it, I was like "Well, Freeza's back does look a little wierd..but not that bad"

"OH IT'S VEGETA!"

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:07 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:Didn't Mr. Toriyama do this by accident in the manga with the exact same scene?

Yup. Precisely why there is a possibility Toei 'goof'd up' with this scene intentionally.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:08 pm

Just for anyone who's still confused, Vegeta should be wearing this armor.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:28 pm

I love that above image of Vegeta sitting. It's so oldschool. X3

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:47 pm

Lupin Vegeta also didn't fit his scene either.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:58 pm

Raki wrote:Lupin Vegeta also didn't fit his scene either.

That's not true!

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:23 am

There are many cases of Toryama or the cel animators forgetting certain parts of the outfit of a certain character, but this is one of the rare times where they draw the wrong outfit altogether.

Here's another time that the animators drew the wrong outfit...very wrong:

And here is an example of Toryama drawing the wrong outfit (this is from the Italian version of the manga I believe):

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:22 am

I've noticed a lot of different instances of this. Unless it was done purposely, you would think the animators would pay a little more attention.

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:42 pm

SonEric84 wrote:I've noticed a lot of different instances of this. Unless it was done purposely, you would think the animators would pay a little more attention.

When you go through thousands upon thousands of animation cells every day, you're liable to miss things like that. Especially if you got used to drawing a character a certain way. Think about it this way. 30 frames per second, sixty seconds per minuet. thats 180 cells just for one minuet.

Assuming 8 minuets for commercials, leaving us with 22 minuets per episode leaves us at 3960 frames per episode. Multiply that by 296 episodes for JUST DBZ and it's an astounding 1,172,160 frames. That's OVER A MILLION individual cells JUST for DBZ.

So don't take such an attitude with these people if a few cells are off. They go through so many, that they have to begin to all look the same, and missing something from their end is only natural. Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (Also the first part of Robotech) had MANY similar issues with people not wearing the right rank or faction patch.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:39 pm

laserkid wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:I've noticed a lot of different instances of this. Unless it was done purposely, you would think the animators would pay a little more attention.
When you go through thousands upon thousands of animation cells every day, you're liable to miss things like that. Especially if you got used to drawing a character a certain way. Think about it this way. 30 frames per second, sixty seconds per minuet. thats 180 cells just for one minuet.

Assuming 8 minuets for commercials, leaving us with 22 minuets per episode leaves us at 3960 frames per episode. Multiply that by 296 episodes for JUST DBZ and it's an astounding 1,172,160 frames. That's OVER A MILLION individual cells JUST for DBZ.

So don't take such an attitude with these people if a few cells are off. They go through so many, that they have to begin to all look the same, and missing something from their end is only natural. Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (Also the first part of Robotech) had MANY similar issues with people not wearing the right rank or faction patch.

I think perhaps you took my comment a bit too seriously.

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:10 pm

I don't know SonEric personally, but I would say just by what I've seen here that he's a pretty laid back guy, so I think that the definsiveness was unnecissary.

Plus isn't this just a thread about some wrong models, I don't notice any bashing of Toei.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:14 pm

I think laserkid just got himself carried away with the response

. He's an equally laid-back guy.

I'd love to see some more examples, mainly because you all do my work for me and I can just sit here and enjoy myself. Work, monkeys!

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:19 pm

VegettoEX wrote:I think laserkid just got himself carried away with the response . He's an equally laid-back guy.

I'd love to see some more examples, mainly because you all do my work for me and I can just sit here and enjoy myself. Work, monkeys!

I'm actually quite interested in seeing more

I like this stuff.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:27 pm

In the "We Gotta Power" intro, Gohan has his book bag in one shot then it's gone in the next! Nitpickery?!

Kanzenshuu

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