If they made more specials: When would they take place?

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:39 pm

I'd really want some back story on characters. Especially Vegeta. But Toriyama needs to have some involvement. Just to make the fans happy.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:41 pm

Gozar wrote:I'd really want some back story on characters. Especially Vegeta. But Toriyama needs to have some involvement. Just to make the fans happy.

Didn't we just get some back story.... with him having a brother and all?

I know what you really mean though.

MagicBox · Post by **MagicBox** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:43 pm

Gozar wrote:I'd really want some back story on characters. Especially Vegeta.

Eh, we can pretty much piece together his backstory already thanks to all the Freeza Saga flashbacks and the Burdock special.

I want some backstory on Kuririn, Yamcha, Ten, and Chaozu. Though we'll never get it, so meh.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:00 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:I prefer the serious Gogeta looking Gotenks as an adult. I believe that chibi-Gotenks was silly because he was comprised of two 8 year olds. In light of Trunks and Son Goten’s attitude in GT, I would imagine an adult Gotenks to be more serious.
SSJ4 Gogeta.
Well according to Vegeta, everyone’s favorite brain damaged Saiyan is responsible for that disaster.

Some argue that one personality does not dominate the other in fusion but I think GT proved that not to be the case.

GT doesn't prove anything. Rather, GT looks at everything that SHOULD be, laughs at it, and then jumps around screaming how great Goku is.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:16 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Rocketman wrote: SSJ4 Gogeta.
Well according to Vegeta, everyone’s favorite brain damaged Saiyan is responsible for that disaster.

Some argue that one personality does not dominate the other in fusion but I think GT proved that not to be the case.
GT doesn't prove anything. Rather, GT looks at everything that SHOULD be, laughs at it, and then jumps around screaming how great Goku is.

Like Toriyama did not do that in “Z”? The GT writers were just playing off what was already established, that is an ever-loving Goku-fest.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:17 pm

SaiyaMel wrote:Since Suzuoki Hirotaka is dead - any significant role involving Tenshinhan would be out of the question unless they're able to find someone who sounds like him.

Yeah, that was the only thing that was the downer when I thought about it.

It's a shame. Tenshinhan is such a great character. And I don't like to think that he was always the asshole he was when he first showed up. I'd like to think things are a lot more complicated than him being a bad guy who sees the error of his ways.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:42 am

After seeing this special I'd now love a Trunks/Vegeta/Tarble/Bulma/Gure story. The fact that there wasn't really any interaction between Trunks and his unlce disapointed me a little. And I'd like to see zero amount of Goku. Not that I dislike him. I just don't find him interesting. And most times hes was on screen it felt so forced, like he had no real reason for being there at all. Like the fact that he was the one who showed Tarble his SSJ form. That should obviously have been Vegeta...

Anyway, yeah, I want some "Briefs Family Adventures"

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:52 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote: Well according to Vegeta, everyone’s favorite brain damaged Saiyan is responsible for that disaster.

Some argue that one personality does not dominate the other in fusion but I think GT proved that not to be the case.
GT doesn't prove anything. Rather, GT looks at everything that SHOULD be, laughs at it, and then jumps around screaming how great Goku is.
Like Toriyama did not do that in “Z”? The GT writers were just playing off what was already established, that is an ever-loving Goku-fest.

Last time I checked. Goku was not always the main focus in Z. The other stronger characters always got a chance to shine for a while. GT was just like the common movie. Everyone gets their asses kicked and Goku pulls a miracle.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:22 am

Gozar wrote:...Last time I checked. Goku was not always the main focus in Z. The other stronger characters always got a chance to shine for a while. GT was just like the common movie. Everyone gets their asses kicked and Goku pulls a miracle.

Yeah the other idiot Son Gohan took up the rest of the airtime while every major villain rapes Vegeta.

SaiyaMel · Post by **SaiyaMel** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:28 am

You sure seem to hate those two chars.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:41 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Gozar wrote:...Last time I checked. Goku was not always the main focus in Z. The other stronger characters always got a chance to shine for a while. GT was just like the common movie. Everyone gets their asses kicked and Goku pulls a miracle.
Yeah the other idiot Son Gohan took up the rest of the airtime while every major villain rapes Vegeta.

Gee. Because in the series that I watched. The Cell Era was filled with quote a number of Vegeta heavy episodes and some Trunks heavy ones. Then come Buu it's Trunks/Goten/Gotenks heavy.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:49 am

SaiyaMel wrote:You sure seem to hate those two chars.

Wow, how did you guess?

Seriously, I cannot stand those two characters because there are nothing appealing about them whatsoever. They get all the breaks and they some how break the rules of reality (yes even the rules of Dragonworld), so that everything will come out in their favor.

Vegeta works the hardest and makes the most changes throughout the series and what does he get at the end? Nothing in comparison to the two idiots if that is not the quintessential example of inequitable treatment I do not know what is.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:51 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote:You sure seem to hate those two chars.
Wow, how did you guess?

Seriously, I cannot stand those two characters because there are nothing appealing about them whatsoever. They get all the breaks and they some how break the rules of reality (yes even the rules of Dragonworld), so that everything will come out in their favor.

Vegeta works the hardest and makes the most changes throughout the series and what does he get at the end? Nothing in comparison to the two idiots if that is not the quintessential example of inequitable treatment I do not know what is.

Go figure. The main character and his son have all the fun.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 am

Gozar wrote:...Gee. Because in the series that I watched. The Cell Era was filled with quote a number of Vegeta heavy episodes and some Trunks heavy ones. Then come Buu it's Trunks/Goten/Gotenks heavy.

Yeah but Vegeta went through all of that just for Toriyama to have him do something that most would call stupid (yet it coincides with Saiyan psychology for we have seen Kakarrot do things just as stupid), so the idiot duo can save the day as usual.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Gozar wrote:...Gee. Because in the series that I watched. The Cell Era was filled with quote a number of Vegeta heavy episodes and some Trunks heavy ones. Then come Buu it's Trunks/Goten/Gotenks heavy.
Yeah but Vegeta went through all of that just for Toriyama to have him do something that most would call stupid (yet it coincides with Saiyan psychology for we have seen Kakarrot do things just as stupid), so the idiot duo can save the day as usual.

...Again. Main character and his son.

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:00 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote:You sure seem to hate those two chars.
Wow, how did you guess?

Seriously, I cannot stand those two characters because there are nothing appealing about them whatsoever. They get all the breaks and they some how break the rules of reality (yes even the rules of Dragonworld), so that everything will come out in their favor.

I hope you're not a Broly fan then.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:00 am

I am just glad that Vegeta gets the respect he deserves from many fans regardless of the “Idiot Duo” fan club members that are out there. I think this new special demonstrates how big a selfish ass Kakarrot truly is.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:01 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:I am just glad that Vegeta gets the respect he deserves from many fans regardless of the “Idiot Duo” fan club members that are out there. I think this new special demonstrates how big a selfish ass Kakarrot truly is.

And Vegeta's not a selfish ass?

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:06 am

Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:...I hope you're not a Broly fan then.

In fact I am, please do not get me started talking about the “Toei Punch”.

Gozar wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:I am just glad that Vegeta gets the respect he deserves from many fans regardless of the “Idiot Duo” fan club members that are out there. I think this new special demonstrates how big a selfish ass Kakarrot truly is.
And Vegeta's not a selfish ass?

Yes, he was but Vegeta's selfishness was obvious to all at one point but as we saw at the end of the Buu Saga, the special and Dragonball GT all that has changed whereas Kakarrot remained the same.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:07 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yes, he was but Vegeta's selfishness was obvious to all at one point but as we saw at the end of the Buu Saga, the special and Dragonball GT all that has changed whereas Kakarrot remained the same.

Horrors. Goku wants to finish off the enemy. Their both Saiyans. They want to fight. What do you expect?