Correct name/spelling for Tarble?

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Post by Spazicon » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:05 am

No other anime community does this. What do the creators call him? Tarble you say? Ok. Guess what kids? That's the fellows name. Jesus.
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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:13 am

Spazicon wrote:No other anime community does this. What do the creators call him? Tarble you say? Ok. Guess what kids? That's the fellows name. Jesus.
People aren't arguing about the pronunciation they're arguing about the spelling, no need to get snippy.

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Post by Spazicon » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:18 am

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Spazicon wrote:No other anime community does this. What do the creators call him? Tarble you say? Ok. Guess what kids? That's the fellows name. Jesus.
People aren't arguing about the pronunciation they're arguing about the spelling, no need to get snippy.
So, I'm not arguing about the spelling?
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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:25 am

Spazicon wrote:Ok. Guess what kids? That's the fellows name. Jesus.
From your wording I thought you were speaking in terms of pronunciation.

As for "no other anime community does this" I guess you haven't visited many, Raito/Light ring a bell? :P

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Post by B-kun » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:21 pm

And Sailor Moon is a nightmare. Even in 2008, with people actually doing research and realising their spellings have been incorrect and coming up with more accurate names, we still have people using "Dimande" because ADV is run by retards and *rant*

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Post by SaiyaMel » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:40 pm

I have two versions of its spelling... Tahbul and tAbul.

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Post by Forgotten Hero » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:22 pm

Bura wrote:First I called him Table due the pun, but seeing it spelled as Tarble on the official site and in the subtitles I started calling him that and that's what I'm going with now.
True...I'm sticking with Tarble then. If that's how it was written in the special, then that is how it must be spelled.
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Post by Taku128 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:28 pm

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Bura wrote:First I called him Table due the pun, but seeing it spelled as Tarble on the official site and in the subtitles I started calling him that and that's what I'm going with now.
True...I'm sticking with Tarble then. If that's how it was written in the special, then that is how it must be spelled.
They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way. They have a dash between Son Goku, so should we all be typing Son-Goku? Just because Toei spells something someway doesn't mean we have to, otherwise up until recently everyone would say Son Gokou.
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Post by Dayspring » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:59 pm

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Bura wrote:First I called him Table due the pun, but seeing it spelled as Tarble on the official site and in the subtitles I started calling him that and that's what I'm going with now.
True...I'm sticking with Tarble then. If that's how it was written in the special, then that is how it must be spelled.
They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way. They have a dash between Son Goku, so should we all be typing Son-Goku? Just because Toei spells something someway doesn't mean we have to, otherwise up until recently everyone would say Son Goku.
Everybody's calling her Gure. We don't know what the name is a pun on yet. :?

Meanwhile the katakana is taabaru which can be either Table or Tarble. However, the alphabet spelling and the pronunciation in the special are both Tarble, which should give us a pretty damn good indication as to which is his name. Nobody writes "Badock," so I don't see the need for Table. Saying it better preserves the pun is a moot argument; Jono, Juan, and John are all different names originating from the same root.
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Post by Taku128 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:07 pm

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Forgotten Hero wrote: True...I'm sticking with Tarble then. If that's how it was written in the special, then that is how it must be spelled.
They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way. They have a dash between Son Goku, so should we all be typing Son-Goku? Just because Toei spells something someway doesn't mean we have to, otherwise up until recently everyone would say Son Goku.
Everybody's calling her Gure. We don't know what the name is a pun on yet. :?

Meanwhile the katakana is taabaru which can be either Table or Tarble. However, the alphabet spelling and the pronunciation in the special are both Tarble, which should give us a pretty damn good indication as to which is his name. Nobody writes "Badock," so I don't see the need for Table. Saying it better preserves the pun is a moot argument; Jono, Juan, and John are all different names originating from the same root.
Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure... And as for Bardock and not spelling it Badock, thats because there's an r in Burdock.
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Post by Olivier Hague » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:08 pm

Taku128 wrote:They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way.
Maybe they should, 'cause "Gray" doesn't quite fit with the kana...

Dayspring wrote:the katakana is taabaru
No, it's "taaburu".

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Post by Taku128 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:10 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Taku128 wrote:They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way.
Maybe they should, 'cause "Gray" doesn't quite fit with the kana...
Neither does Trunks.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:14 pm

I prefer the “Tarble” spelling, normally I would go with Mike’s spelling but the front page apparently demonstrates that he prefers “Table”. I guess I will have to disagree in this instance. By the way, I thought that Toriyama always modified the spellings thus making it a pun. For example, we do not call “Onio” in Neko Majin Z “Onion”.
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Post by Dayspring » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:14 pm

Taku128 wrote:
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Taku128 wrote:They also spelled Gray "Gure", but I don't see anyone spelling it that way. They have a dash between Son Goku, so should we all be typing Son-Goku? Just because Toei spells something someway doesn't mean we have to, otherwise up until recently everyone would say Son Goku.
Everybody's calling her Gure. We don't know what the name is a pun on yet. :?

Meanwhile the katakana is taabaru which can be either Table or Tarble. However, the alphabet spelling and the pronunciation in the special are both Tarble, which should give us a pretty damn good indication as to which is his name. Nobody writes "Badock," so I don't see the need for Table. Saying it better preserves the pun is a moot argument; Jono, Juan, and John are all different names originating from the same root.
Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure... And as for Bardock and not spelling it Badock, thats because there's an r in Burdock.
Does it matter? It's a *pun* for frak's sake! "Table" is not a "better made up word than the official made up word."

And I shall smack whoever says "table" exists as a word. If you use that argument, you're not exactly preserving your "vegetable" pun are you?



@Olivier: Whoopsy. But that doesn't disproove my point that it can, and in this instance does, read and get pronounced as "Tarble."
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Post by Spazicon » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:16 pm

Taku128 wrote:Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure...
Reaching hard for that one, aren't ya?
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Post by Dayspring » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:21 pm

Spazicon wrote:
Taku128 wrote:Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure...
Reaching hard for that one, aren't ya?
Agreed. Her skin is light green and she's shaped like a grape. Not only that, but her species always uses space ships that look like grape juice boxes. Personally I think her name is most likely supposed to be read as "Grae," that is, "Grape" without the P.
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Post by Taku128 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:24 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
Dayspring wrote:Everybody's calling her Gure. We don't know what the name is a pun on yet. :?

Meanwhile the katakana is taabaru which can be either Table or Tarble. However, the alphabet spelling and the pronunciation in the special are both Tarble, which should give us a pretty damn good indication as to which is his name. Nobody writes "Badock," so I don't see the need for Table. Saying it better preserves the pun is a moot argument; Jono, Juan, and John are all different names originating from the same root.
Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure... And as for Bardock and not spelling it Badock, thats because there's an r in Burdock.
Does it matter? It's a *pun* for frak's sake! "Table" is not a "better made up word than the official made up word."
Yes. Toei has never been good at translating the character's names into English. They only got the translations right for the characters that appeared in the manga, seemingly because they took them from Viz's translation. All of the new characters except for Cado are badly translated. Tarble should be Table. Gure should be Gray (Unless I'm wrong and it's a pun on something else), Abo should be Avo, and ACa should be Aca (not much of a change for that one).

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Dayspring wrote:Her skin is light green and she's shaped like a grape. Not only that, but her species always uses space ships that look like grape juice boxes. Personally I think her name is most likely supposed to be read as "Grae," that is, "Grape" without the P.
Scratch Gray, that sounds like it's the pun. Heh, a vegetable married to a fruit.
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Post by Dayspring » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:37 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Dayspring wrote:
Taku128 wrote:Well, her skin is Gray, and her name is Gure... And as for Bardock and not spelling it Badock, thats because there's an r in Burdock.
Does it matter? It's a *pun* for frak's sake! "Table" is not a "better made up word than the official made up word."
Yes. Toei has never been good at translating the character's names into English. They only got the translations right for the characters that appeared in the manga, seemingly because they took them from Viz's translation. All of the new characters except for Cado are badly translated. Tarble should be Table. Gure should be Gray (Unless I'm wrong and it's a pun on something else), Abo should be Avo, and ACa should be Aca (not much of a change for that one).

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Spazicon wrote: Reaching hard for that one, aren't ya?
Agreed. Her skin is light green and she's shaped like a grape. Not only that, but her species always uses space ships that look like grape juice boxes. Personally I think her name is most likely supposed to be read as "Grae," that is, "Grape" without the P.
Scratch Gray, that sounds like it's the pun. Heh, a vegetable married to a fruit.
Not sure what VIZ has to do with anything...

And yet ironically, I keep writing Gure instead of Grae. Guess I shouldn't be so adamant about Table, then. :P

Anyhoo, my point is they're not necessarily translating things into English, so much as making name puns BASED on the English word. Whatever pun they derive isn't an English word. Follow?
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Post by Spazicon » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:38 pm

Taku128 - The problem is, it's not all about the damned pun. The pun is still there, minus it being the exact spelling. It doesn't need, and according to Toei themselves, is not spelled to the letter (as the pun's origin).

Get off the pun crap. That's never how this was done.

Abo is not "correctly because of the pun" "Avo". The pun is still there, as Abo. Read it aloud. You'll get it. If you don't, then wow.

What makes it worse, is the correct, official spelling is widely available, via Jump's site, yet people still fight the machine, and for what? If you were going for mass confusion, good job on that.
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Post by Taku128 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:44 pm

Spazicon wrote:Taku128 - The problem is, it's not all about the damned pun. The pun is still there, minus it being the exact spelling. It doesn't need, and according to Toei themselves, is not spelled to the letter (as the pun's origin).

Get off the pun crap. That's never how this was done.

Abo is not "correctly because of the pun" "Avo". The pun is still there, as Abo. Read it aloud. You'll get it. If you don't, then wow.

What makes it worse, is the correct, official spelling is widely available, via Jump's site, yet people still fight the machine, and for what? If you were going for mass confusion, good job on that.
But Toei has a history of not knowing what they're doing when writing names in English. Up until recently they've used the spelling Son Gokou. Recently they've been spelling Freeza's name as Frieza. Should we all start calling him that? If you say it out loud you'll still get the pun.
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