Dragon Ball GT: Season 1 Discussion

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:05 am

Undercooked Sausage wrote:I'm watching on a 40" 1080p LCD screen and don't see any blurriness whatsoever, quite a bit of pixellation but nothing else.

There's your thing, are you upconverting? If upconvert, it will look a lot worse. Also depends on your DVD players upconvert settings. On my Onkyo set to 1080p, the blurring is really noticeable, I am running a 42in Aquos Sharp. The interlacing is also quite jarring. The picture quality at least looks great on my CRT 21in.

TheMajinRedComet wrote:Is the new dub track 5.1? That would be very nice considering my sound setup.

It is, but its the same thing like in DBZ, the music sounds forced.

MagicBox wrote: Oh, and I found a new problem for those of you who are still on the fence. As I'm sure you all know, the Japanese episodes themselves were mixed in mono, but the Japanese openings and endings were treated to stereo mixes. This is how they are on both the DragonBoxes and the old FUNimation discs. Quality control seems to have forgotten this little detail, and have transferred all of the audio to the discs in mono. So yeah, the stereo Japanese openings and endings are in mono now. It still sounds great, but the lack of channel separation is a disappointment.

Yes, I was disappointed by this. Its' too bad FUNI could not have done a better release, even if it is GT.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:02 pm

Hm.

On one hand, the price difference is much smaller and far less of an issue with GT than it is with Z, and the whole series is actually out in singles.

On the other hand, it is GT, and is GT worth a purist outlook?

Meh. I won't even look at GT until I've bought all of Z and the original DB anyway, so I suppose it's a non-issue right now...

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:08 pm

Well, as far as I'm concerned, the set's pros of the price-per-episode, the correct episode order, and the improved dub material, far outweigh what I can only perceive as minor omissions like the previews (honestly I get it, but they mean nothing to me). So provided I don't get it for Christmas, I'll be darting out to the store first thing on the 26th to hand FUNimation my money for this one.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:19 pm

It's about a set of priorities, of course. I can see that the GT season sets are BETTER than the Z sets. The problem is that there is an in-stock, better alternative. HOW much better that alternative is, how much it is worth, depends on your priorities.

And of course, I really honestly could care less about the dub track. When I get a Dragon Ball DVD, I make a beeline for the Language Set-Up. They can do whatever the hell they want with the track, because I simply couldn't care for the track without a complete re-dub of the whole thing.

Funimation got what are easily the best anime subs on DVD. That is why I buy DBZ DVDs, and for nothing else. So things that affect the dub track...don't affect me.

So, obviously, for me it comes up to Price VS Various Things That Annoy Me.

Especially since episode order can, y'know, be fixed by putting the Lost Episodes disc in front of your Volumes 1-15 on your shelf.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:34 pm

The dialog is the uncut version. When Pan is sent to the robot scrap room, she asks where this is and some robot tells her "This is Robot Hell..."

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:42 pm

Does anyone think that the English Themes are "out of sync" at all?
The timing just seems off to me in DAN DA-uh, I mean "Bit by Bit".

Also, if just for Episode 3(or 4), it looked like the eyecatchers weren't cut.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:46 pm

Big Momma wrote:Does anyone think that the English Themes are "out of sync" at all?
The timing just seems off to me in DAN DA-uh, I mean "Bit by Bit".

Also, if just for Episode 3(or 4), it looked like the eyecatchers weren't cut.

It's already been stated that after 1-3 they aren't. I am on disc 3 going on 4, and that seems to be the case.

Also the song is supposed to start when the logo appears, but the English one starts at the beginning of the animation.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:48 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Well, as far as I'm concerned, the set's pros of the price-per-episode, the correct episode order, and the improved dub material, far outweigh what I can only perceive as minor omissions like the previews (honestly I get it, but they mean nothing to me). So provided I don't get it for Christmas, I'll be darting out to the store first thing on the 26th to hand FUNimation my money for this one.

Actually you would be handing your money to a retailer. FUNimation already has their share of the profits from the box sets on the shelves.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:56 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Actually you would be handing your money to a retailer. FUNimation already has their share of the profits from the box sets on the shelves.

I... well... uhm... SHUT UP.

kusakun004 · Post by **kusakun004** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:22 pm

How do the endings look? Are they as bad as the openings? And are they crediting the Japanese staff or just the English staff in the end credits?

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:34 pm

Again, does the grain on the dragonboxes show up on television sets? Is there an "anti-grain" feature?

MagicBox · Post by **MagicBox** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:07 am

kusakun004 wrote:How do the endings look? Are they as bad as the openings? And are they crediting the Japanese staff or just the English staff in the end credits?

The openings look fine, to be honest. There's more film damage there than there is in the actual series, but colors are fine and they're not bad by any means. The endings look about the same.

Really, the only part of the openings/endings that look truly bad is the new animation in opening two with Trunks, Goku, and Pan attacking Baby. It's incredibly over-saturated and looks like it was ripped off an old VHS. But from what I've heard, that's how they look on the DragonBoxes as well, so yeah.

As for the credits, sadly, it's just the same few people they credited before. Basically all of the Japanese staff credits in the ending, and more, can be found in the opening. Since they had translated ones provided, I thought for sure they'd take the time to type them up. Oh well.

BrollysKin wrote:Again, does the grain on the dragonboxes show up on television sets? Is there an "anti-grain" feature?

Yeah, the grain still shows up, but it's not as obvious when everything's on motion. And there's no anti-grain feature lol. Some TVs have a DVNR option, but that's all I'm aware of that'll help you with that. It's really not noticable unless you're viewing screenshots.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:11 am

MagicBox wrote:Really, the only part of the openings/endings that look truly bad is the new animation in opening two with Trunks, Goku, and Pan attacking Baby. It's incredibly over-saturated and looks like it was ripped off an old VHS. But from what I've heard, that's how they look on the DragonBoxes as well, so yeah.

Oddly, I always remember that part of the opening being lower than the rest, even on fansubs at least 10 years ago. It's a shame because I like that version of the opening.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:54 am

Bussani wrote: Oddly, I always remember that part of the opening being lower than the rest, even on fansubs at least 10 years ago. It's a shame because I like that version of the opening.

I agree, the part with young Goku going from Normal to SS(J)3 always gives me a little fangasm inside.

(I don't know why, but I've always loved Super Saiyan forms of Kid Goku...yet I don't really like any forms of Goten, Trunks, Gotenks, or even Teen Gohan. Except when he's SSJ2 in Saiyan Armor(Thanks Budokai 3))

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:08 am

BrollysKin wrote:Again, does the grain on the dragonboxes show up on television sets? Is there an "anti-grain" feature?

Why would get rid of the grain? That's what make it so valuable, it keeps the integrity of the film. Sorry, I'm just one of the people that value film grain, and protest when in high def (specially) or DVD, they DNR details away, making a wax-like quality.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:28 am

Hey guys, sorry to ask this question so late. But before these Season Sets, I've only watched GT through fully once. Dubbed. So I'm not familiar with the JP Eyecatchers. I've been hearing they were edited to fit the English Music. Can someone explain or maybe direct me to a Video with the Original length?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:41 am

Gozar wrote:Hey guys, sorry to ask this question so late. But before these Season Sets, I've only watched GT through fully once. Dubbed. So I'm not familiar with the JP Eyecatchers. I've been hearing they were edited to fit the English Music. Can someone explain or maybe direct me to a Video with the Original length?

From the sounds of it, they're a bit choppy in the first two or three episodes, but perfectly fine for the rest of the set. I think someone posted links to the audio files back on page... 10 or so.

Super 17 · Post by **Super 17** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:44 am

My friend wants the season set, but dosen't want to pay $50 at FYE, are there other stores that has them for like $20-30?

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:45 am

Amazon has it for $36... that's probably the cheapest you'll find it when it's so new.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:50 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Gozar wrote:Hey guys, sorry to ask this question so late. But before these Season Sets, I've only watched GT through fully once. Dubbed. So I'm not familiar with the JP Eyecatchers. I've been hearing they were edited to fit the English Music. Can someone explain or maybe direct me to a Video with the Original length?
From the sounds of it, they're a bit choppy in the first two or three episodes, but perfectly fine for the rest of the set. I think someone posted links to the audio files back on page... 10 or so.

Thanks man.