Thoughts on FUNimation's treatment of Dragon Ball

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Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:13 pm

Raki wrote:That ain't the case at all. I listened to all three scores years before I even knew of the Japanese score. I just thought it all sounded the same and was irrelevant to the flow of the show.
Did you feel that way while watching it? Because I have rarely watched a show and picked out unfitting music (I have just not often) and I'm a musician. For the most part music is what creates the mood. Dragon Ball Z has a lot of action, fast paced techno isn't that out of place, IMO. So to say you felt it was unfitting that would be saying you were expecting something else.

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Post by Raki » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:16 pm

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Raki wrote:That ain't the case at all. I listened to all three scores years before I even knew of the Japanese score. I just thought it all sounded the same and was irrelevant to the flow of the show.
Did you feel that way while watching it? Because I have rarely watched a show and picked out unfitting music (I have just not often) and I'm a musician. For the most part music is what creates the mood. Dragon Ball Z has a lot of action, fast paced techno isn't that out of place, IMO. So to say you felt it was unfitting that would be saying you were expecting something else.
I honestly felt like the dub Super Saiyan 3 music was unfitting for the scene. I was all hyped up to see Goku transform to the next level, and here goes that horrible music. It was so bad that I just muted my TV until I thought it was over. I'm a man of many musical tastes, it's just to me that music didn't fit that scene at all. To my knowledge, that was the music for the scene and I didn't know of anything thing else. Hell most of the dub music is just there to fill up space and be background noise. To my suprise,according to Overlord Gen-sama, it served it's purpose.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:26 pm

Raki wrote:I honestly felt like the dub Super Saiyan 3 music was unfitting for the scene. I was all hyped up to see Goku transform to the next level, and here goes that horrible music. It was so bad that I just muted my TV until I thought it was over. I'm a man of many musical tastes, it's just to me that music didn't fit that scene at all. To my knowledge, that was the music for the scene and I didn't know of anything thing else. Hell most of the dub music is just there to fill up space and be background noise. To my suprise,according to Overlord Gen-sama, it served it's purpose.
It may be repetitive because they used the same songs over and over. It may have been a contractual thing. Like they paid Faulkner's studios to make several tracks then they used them over and over to fill up space.

Super Saiyan 3 was one of my favorite songs off the soundtrack. The truth is though, I didn't even notice the music when I saw him transform for the first time. Even if I did and I hated it, I wouldn't have muted the TV. That seems a little extreme. :roll:

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Post by Majin Buu » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:25 pm

Is it wrong for me to say that all that dub music sounds the same? At least I think so.
I can notice the differences between composers in the dub music since I've had to listen to it until I could afford the DVDs, but it generally feels more like noise than music to me. And I think that's what Funi intended it to be: Noise that's always playing so there's no silence.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:40 am

I didn't even notice the Faulconer score, it was the same boring soul-less Saturday morning cartoon trash I had been enduring all my childhood, it was just "there" for me.

It wasn't until getting my Movie 3 VHS (my first real exposure to the original music) that I realised how phenomenal the Japanese score was, I remember constantly rewinding and watching the "Dun, dun dun" Genki Dama scene over and over.

The Faulconer score doesn't fit with DBZ to me, but that's because the original version in terms of tone and spirit is so drastically different from what FUNimation decided the show should be.

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Post by LegendarySSJ7 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:26 pm

I don't necessarily feel that Faulconer's tracks are disparaging nor in contest with the stock footage, just... not so good upon application. I don't feel OCEAN's rather monotonous BGM to be much better, but most don't clamor about that because nostalgia has a great deal to do with it. That's not to say I don't feel the BGM in the original Japanese format is classy because I would say it is - and silence sets unsettling tones to the footage as well with temerity which works best to set tension in the quiet moods and more climatic moments of the series (the end of Goku and Freeza's fight on Namek comes to mind), as I feel that should always be respected. But I feel Faulconer's themes do have a good, dreamscape and empyrean qualities, along with confidence and vibrance in tone and often are appropriate in tones, it's just their use and excessively and oversaturatingly synthesized nature that I think galls many (a lack of silence and the changing of tracks just to tell the user the tone has changed, something that can be inferred by an audience that doesn't have that short an attention span, amongst other things).

But, I just think it depends upon preference and opinion. And neither OCEAN nor FUNimation are respectful to the original version nor is the dialogue anything to appraise, so I'll keep reserved on that. However, in VAs, I do feel that OCEAN is generally superior but that nothing beats the original Seiyuus. But that's just me. FUNimation's treatment of Dragonball, however? Not so good, but not without its highs, either, in brief.
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Post by Super Sonic » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:40 pm

A thing I do respect of Funimation's treatment of the series is at least they did the entire series. Man, I swear if I ever get rich, I'm bringing Sailor Stars over here.

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Post by Kendamu » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:55 pm

Super Sonic wrote:A thing I do respect of Funimation's treatment of the series is at least they did the entire series. Man, I swear if I ever get rich, I'm bringing Sailor Stars over here.
If I ever get insanely rich, I'm buying the rights to the first thirteen episodes of Dragonball, bringing the Dragonboxes over, slapping subs on them, giving 'em to FUNi to put in stores, and working out a deal where the DBZ Abridged guys can work full-time on making that series and putting it out on DVD through FUNi.

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Post by Taku128 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:10 am

Kendamu wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:A thing I do respect of Funimation's treatment of the series is at least they did the entire series. Man, I swear if I ever get rich, I'm bringing Sailor Stars over here.
If I ever get insanely rich, I'm buying the rights to the first thirteen episodes of Dragonball, bringing the Dragonboxes over, slapping subs on them, giving 'em to FUNi to put in stores, and working out a deal where the DBZ Abridged guys can work full-time on making that series and putting it out on DVD through FUNi.
How about you just buy FUNi so you can just do whatever you want with the company?
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Post by Kendamu » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:27 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:A thing I do respect of Funimation's treatment of the series is at least they did the entire series. Man, I swear if I ever get rich, I'm bringing Sailor Stars over here.
If I ever get insanely rich, I'm buying the rights to the first thirteen episodes of Dragonball, bringing the Dragonboxes over, slapping subs on them, giving 'em to FUNi to put in stores, and working out a deal where the DBZ Abridged guys can work full-time on making that series and putting it out on DVD through FUNi.
How about you just buy FUNi so you can just do whatever you want with the company?
I barely give a shit about anime in general nowadays and I would run the company into the ground due to my disinterest in just about everything not related to Dragonball.

If I were to buy any anime/manga company in its entirety it would be VIZ just so I could give people uncensored manga.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:57 pm

If I ever got a kajillion bazillion marillion kabillion bradillion billion million dollars... The furthest thing from my mind would be Dragon Ball :lol:

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