Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:52 am

jda95 wrote:I had heard. Is she mainly a singer or actor?

I’m not sure. According to her Wikipedia page, she started out as a singer and moved on to acting, but to date she’s really only done a little of both. She did two records back in ’07 and a small handful of TV/Movies, the only role of which I’ve actually seen being the daughter in Mystic River, but it wasn’t that big. Makes me wonder if DBE will bring her more into the public eye.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:02 am

After watching the trailer again, I'm really seeing how distinctive the movie looks.

I see it possibly becoming a cult classic in a decade or so.

B · Post by B » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:06 am

Oh hey, I just realized Hamasaki sings Naruto Shippuden's third opening, Blue Bird. Awesome.

Fushar · Post by **Fushar** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:26 am

Acid_Reign wrote:
Fushar wrote:See my point?. Maybe in the USA it was targeted for kids, but not in the original series.
I’m sorry but that’s just wrong; you’re looking at it from a culturally-biased standpoint. “Perversion” is taken more lightly in Japan than it is in the US. Dragon Ball was always intended for children. If adults can enjoy it, that’s their prerogative, but they certainly weren’t the target demographic.

It was written for all. Kids, Teens and Adults alike. Remember Adults in Japan also like anime.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:43 am

Fushar wrote:Remember Adults in Japan also like anime.

I think this is a misconception. There are adults in Japan who like anime. Anyone can like anime. But it's aimed at a younger audience and making it a big part of your life after a certain age is still seen as strange or childish a lot of the time.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:46 am

Fushar wrote:It was written for all. Kids, Teens and Adults alike.

Shonen = Young boys

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:00 am

Bussani wrote:I think this is a misconception. There are adults in Japan who like anime. Anyone can like anime. But it's aimed at a younger audience and making it a big part of your life after a certain age is still seen as strange or childish a lot of the time.

Exactly. There’s a reason the word “otaku” exists in Japanese culture.

mrkaizoku · Post by **mrkaizoku** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:00 pm

Bussani wrote:I think this is a misconception. There are adults in Japan who like anime. Anyone can like anime. But it's aimed at a younger audience and making it a big part of your life after a certain age is still seen as strange or childish a lot of the time.

I have to call a small part of this out. All anime isn't aimed at a younger audience. For every anime out there like "Dragonball" or "Naruto" there's an anime like "Monster" or "Gantz". Anime is just like any other form of entertainment. Anime certainly isn't an adults only club just as it isn't only made solely for the entertainment of children.

Acid_Reign wrote:Exactly. There’s a reason the word “otaku” exists in Japanese culture.

You also have to remember that an "otaku" is a complete shut in that compulsively watches nothing but anime, and spends any other time they have amassing more anime. I think that these people are considered freaks by any culture.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:44 pm

mrkaizoku wrote:
Bussani wrote:I think this is a misconception. There are adults in Japan who like anime. Anyone can like anime. But it's aimed at a younger audience and making it a big part of your life after a certain age is still seen as strange or childish a lot of the time.
I have to call a small part of this out. All anime isn't aimed at a younger audience. For every anime out there like "Dragonball" or "Naruto" there's an anime like "Monster" or "Gantz". Anime is just like any other form of entertainment. Anime certainly isn't an adults only club just as it isn't only made solely for the entertainment of children.

Yes. But anime is placed into different genres based on the demographic (but they often still get plenty of viewers from outside it). Monster and Gantz are both Seinen (targeted towards adult men) shows.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:58 pm

Bussani wrote:Dragon Ball was written for kids. The definition of 'kids' is just a little different in Japan.

Or rather, the definition of "suitable for kids".

Sorry, Fushar, but Dragon Ball definitely is a manga/show for kids.

mrkaizoku wrote:You also have to remember that an "otaku" is a complete shut in that compulsively watches nothing but anime, and spends any other time they have amassing more anime.

You can be an otaku without being a hikikomori, and there are all sorts of otaku who care for vastly different things, not just animation.

jda95 wrote:anime is placed into different genres based on the demographic (but they often still get plenty of viewers from outside it). Monster and Gantz are both Seinen (targeted towards adult men) shows.

I'd say adult manga readers are far less ostracized than adult anime watchers.
(which is probably one of the reasons why there's a lot less "seinen anime" than seinen manga)

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:34 pm

mrkaizoku wrote:I have to call a small part of this out. All anime isn't aimed at a younger audience. For every anime out there like "Dragonball" or "Naruto" there's an anime like "Monster" or "Gantz". Anime is just like any other form of entertainment. Anime certainly isn't an adults only club just as it isn't only made solely for the entertainment of children.

Gantz is a crazy action sci-fi manga that worships Son Goku and Kenshiro and glamorizes guts and gore. As good a manga as it is and as 'adult' as the themes may be, and as many adults actually enjoy it, it's still primarily for kids and horny violence-loving teenage school boys.

mrkaizoku · Post by **mrkaizoku** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:47 pm

Bussani wrote:Gantz is a crazy action sci-fi manga that worships Son Goku and Kenshiro and glamorizes guts and gore. As good a manga as it is and as 'adult' as the themes may be, and as many adults actually enjoy it, it's still primarily for kids and horny violence-loving teenage school boys.

Absolutely not. "Gantz" is published in this magazine. Young Jump is a Seinen weekly magazine. "Gantz" definitely isn't primarily for kids. Also, if it were intended for children it would most likely contain Furigana. "Gantz" only contains Furigana on people's names and the occasional obscure Kanji.

"Dragonball" on the other hand is made for young boys. Hence it being published in Shonen Jump magazine.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:01 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:This isn’t exactly movie news, but was anyone aware that Emmy Rossum was a singer?

For about four years...

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:29 pm

dragonballmovieblog.net

Also Gamespot has a demo of the game from NYCC.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:30 pm

OHHHHHHHHH SHIT!!!

Yes, that looks fuckin' sweet!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:32 pm

Hot damn, that's pretty gnarly.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:32 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:OHHHHHHHHH SHIT!!!

Yes, that looks fuckin' sweet!

All the way, bro! Now THIS is what I was expectin' to see!

B · Post by B » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:36 pm

GOKU DOES NOT BECOME AN OOZARU AND KEEP HIS CLOTHES HE'S NOT VEGETA MOVIE FAILZ

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:37 pm

B wrote:GOKU DOES NOT BECOME AN OOZARU AND KEEP HIS CLOTHES HE'S NOT VEGETA MOVIE FAILZ

Blast, you beat me to it.

At least it's an improvement over the fish.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:39 pm

B wrote:GOKU DOES NOT BECOME AN OOZARU AND KEEP HIS CLOTHES HE'S NOT VEGETA MOVIE FAILZ

I mentioned this in irc, and Kaboom quickly changed my opinion on the subject.

IRC wrote:[12:31:24] <Kaboom> Do you WANT to see Chatwin-Goku naked?