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[jjgp1112]

Stop going on about all the "evil things" FUNimation did 3/4/5/6/etc. years ago.
No, really. The show is essentially over and done being recorded. There's only a couple DBZ movies left, and that's it. There's nothing left to "save." It's over. You lost. Sure, there were plenty of bad (and sometimes moronic) things done within the English dub... but it's over. Stop living in the past. If you have such a problem with the dub, just ignore it. There are plenty of other ways you can get your precious original Japanese version, both legal and illegal. We don't care. Just shut up.

You're not a better fan because you watch it in Japanese.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and we're damn well willing to bet that you wouldn't have gotten into DB had it not been for FUNimation, and more specifically, their English dub of the program. You may know a few more correct facts about the show, but that doesn't somehow make you a "better" fan. Let people enjoy what they're watching, and go whine about something more important. Did anyone call you a "bad fan" when you were enjoying the 1980's TMNT that varied sooo drastically from the "original" comic? "Dubbie" vs "Subbie" arguments are absolutely unnecessary and retarded.

For the love of God, somebody please listen to this.

[B]

LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I GOTS TA BITCH LA LA LA

[hotrod28]

So basically, in Japan it's a children's show (although I'd love to know how many 10-12 year olds watch it over there and comprehend it). But in America, its a show for teens, because I don't know... we aren't as intelligent as the Japanese? Is that what you're saying?

And don't say that it aired with a pg rating here "uncut", because if the original dialogue had remained intact, no way would it have such a lenient rating. If freeza was still saying "I'll show you a terror greater than hell", rather than the I could break my nails lines he was spouting off in the dub, it would have been a different story.

[B]

No, it's a show for children everywhere. Fuck. What you are not getting is that Japan's standards for chid viewing are different than America's. Some fucker getting his head blown off colorfully and vibrantly means nothing to Japan, which is really the worst DB has.

And curse words don't exist in Japan. You can only take a negative word and say it forcefully to give off the effect of cursing.

The show is for young boys. Dragon Ball is not Shakespeare. It's primary demographic can understand it. It's been proven by fan letters young Japanese children have sent to Jump.

[shotkeeper]

Stop going on about all the "evil things" FUNimation did 3/4/5/6/etc. years ago.
No, really. The show is essentially over and done being recorded. There's only a couple DBZ movies left, and that's it. There's nothing left to "save." It's over. You lost. Sure, there were plenty of bad (and sometimes moronic) things done within the English dub... but it's over. Stop living in the past. If you have such a problem with the dub, just ignore it. There are plenty of other ways you can get your precious original Japanese version, both legal and illegal. We don't care. Just shut up.

You're not a better fan because you watch it in Japanese.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and we're damn well willing to bet that you wouldn't have gotten into DB had it not been for FUNimation, and more specifically, their English dub of the program. You may know a few more correct facts about the show, but that doesn't somehow make you a "better" fan. Let people enjoy what they're watching, and go whine about something more important. Did anyone call you a "bad fan" when you were enjoying the 1980's TMNT that varied sooo drastically from the "original" comic? "Dubbie" vs "Subbie" arguments are absolutely unnecessary and retarded.

For the love of God, somebody please listen to this.

Wow, I never thought I would see that on this board from the admin. Since I joined I only see people whining and whining and whining and whining and guess what WHINING about how Funi sucks and failed. And people support ANYTHING as long it's made by Japan, even if it sucks. Not that I'm a big dub fanboy, just noticed it here.

[Innagadadavida]

Wow, I never thought I would see that on this board from the admin. Since I joined I only see people whining and whining and whining and whining and guess what WHINING about how Funi sucks and failed. And people support ANYTHING as long it's made by Japan, even if it sucks. Not that I'm a big dub fanboy, just noticed it here.

I'm also very surprised to read that VegettoEX wrote that.

[Rocketman]

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show.

Like....what, exactly?

[B]

VEGETA IS SAD
TRUNKS IS SAD
GOHAN IS SAD

Yeah, man, that shit's deep.

[Kendamu]

So basically, in Japan it's a children's show (although I'd love to know how many 10-12 year olds watch it over there and comprehend it). But in America, its a show for teens, because I don't know... we aren't as intelligent as the Japanese? Is that what you're saying?

It's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of sheltering,

[NeptuneKai]

So basically, in Japan it's a children's show (although I'd love to know how many 10-12 year olds watch it over there and comprehend it). But in America, its a show for teens, because I don't know... we aren't as intelligent as the Japanese? Is that what you're saying?

It's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of sheltering,

This so hard.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show.

Yeah man those comics in young boy jump are really complex and deep.

[SSJ2bardock]

I would find it amusing if there's a guy like Chad Warden criticizing DBZ like he did with the PS-Triple.

I got a good laugh out of this, I can just see it now!

"Whatsup bitches, dis' Chad Warden and I don't take no shit from no playa hatin' niggaz like Freeza."

For anyone who doesn't know about Chad Warden, well just enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fGJowpb ... re=related <---

[Rocketman]

VEGETA IS ANGRY
TRUNKS IS DUMB
GOHAN IS A PUSSY

Yeah, man, that shit's deep.

Fixed that for you.

[Satan-Sama]

Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

You have to realize that Japan and America have much different standards for what is and what is not suitable for a child to watch.

[hotrod28]

Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

You have to realize that Japan and America have much different standards for what is and what is not suitable for a child to watch.

So we can all agree that in Japan it is a children's show (even though I'm sure the 13-18 crowd is much larger than the 10-12 in terms of shonen) but in America it is a show for teens. That's fine with me.

Like....what, exactly?

I'd like to see a child fully understand vegeta's cunning battle tactics, or cell's biology, or anything about power levels.

[kusakun004]

Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

You have to realize that Japan and America have much different standards for what is and what is not suitable for a child to watch.

The only thing I have against Dragon Ball being for children is that when something is labeled that it goes under the same category of shows such as Winnie the Pooh, Barnie, and Spongebob. Obviously, the show has more mature content than all of these shows, but a correct label for it is older children/young teen aim. The other thing that bothers me is how YYH is always portrayed as a much more mature version of DB. Honestly, I think this is untrue. Both mangas and anime were in/on Shonen Jump/ Fuji TV respectively. Therefore, they are targeting the same audience. The only thing I can think of is YYH may have a couple of episodes that have a little more blood than DB but the bloody episodes are rare and brief. That and more profanity, but that's different in Japan anyways. Just my thoughts.

[MajinVejitaXV]

And people support ANYTHING as long it's made by Japan, even if it sucks.

In Communist Japan, DragonBall watches you.

-Corey

[Krakabeast]

I can definitely see where hotrod is coming from with the complexity of DB. I would not say that the concepts are complex themselves, but there are several complex areas within the whole franchise. It is basically the emotions of each individual character that the viewer/reader should be keeping tabs on. You sit there and think as if you were in that character's "shoes". You think about what that character is thinking, feeling, and how that character should react to other characters. Lets say your watching the anime for the first time. Do you really know who is going to be the "good" guy or the "bad" guy by the end of the show? Do you know who is going to be left alive by the end of the show? Carefully analyzing each character makes the viewer think more, making the plot more complex within itself. Complexity is also determined by who is watching it of course, depending on their level of intelligence, maturity, etc. I do not know how someone here can say that DB is not complex when your sitting here on a very active DB forum where people are still discussing what happened, what should of happened, where were these characters when this happened, etc. From my point of view, DB only is really portrayed as a children's franchise within the manga most of the time. The anime is a another story since it is an anime and should be geared towards a group of people that usually have more knowledge, or are more mature. I do not want to come out looking like an ageist person because I seemed to be very matronly when I was very young, and I did not appreciate adults making assumptions of the amount of knowledge I had because of my age. That is how I view DB. I know that a young boy does not need to have that same type of thought process to enjoy DB. It just depends on yourself and how you look at it.

[SSJ2bardock]

Like....what, exactly?

I'd like to see a child fully understand vegeta's cunning battle tactics, or cell's biology, or anything about power levels.

How can you say that I child can't comprehend things like Cell's biology when the anime itself does nothing more than say that he has cells from other fighters? It's not like there's college level bio study stuff being explained on Cell, they just lay out some really basic stuff and move on.

And people support ANYTHING as long it's made by Japan, even if it sucks.

In Communist Japan, DragonBall watches you.

I LOL'd at this

[Wojak]

I can definitely see where hotrod is coming from with the complexity of DB. I would not say that the concepts are complex themselves, but there are several complex areas within the whole franchise. It is basically the emotions of each individual character that the viewer/reader should be keeping tabs on. You sit there and think as if you were in that character's "shoes". You think about what that character is thinking, feeling, and how that character should react to other characters. Lets say your watching the anime for the first time. Do you really know who is going to be the "good" guy or the "bad" guy by the end of the show? Do you know who is going to be left alive by the end of the show? Carefully analyzing each character makes the viewer think more, making the plot more complex within itself. Complexity is also determined by who is watching it of course, depending on their level of intelligence, maturity, etc. I do not know how someone here can say that DB is not complex when your sitting here on a very active DB forum where people are still discussing what happened, what should of happened, where were these characters when this happened, etc. From my point of view, DB only is really portrayed as a children's franchise within the manga most of the time. The anime is a another story since it is an anime and should be geared towards a group of people that usually have more knowledge, or are more mature. I do not want to come out looking like an ageist person because I seemed to be very matronly when I was very young, and I did not appreciate adults making assumptions of the amount of knowledge I had because of my age. That is how I view DB. I know that a young boy does not need to have that same type of thought process to enjoy DB. It just depends on yourself and how you look at it.

To think in that way, even Winnie the Pooh or Aladdin are complex.

[hotrod28]

Like....what, exactly?

I'd like to see a child fully understand vegeta's cunning battle tactics, or cell's biology, or anything about power levels.

How can you say that I child can't comprehend things like Cell's biology when the anime itself does nothing more than say that he has cells from other fighters? It's not like there's college level bio study stuff being explained on Cell, they just lay out some really basic stuff and move on.

Even on this one particular topic it is still debated among fans if cell received Nappa's cells, and which cell's from what fighter helped him survive in space, and why didn't he use a multitude of other attacks that were at his disposal.