Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:26 am

DBHighDefinition wrote:Horse shit... I was sure it would get PG-13.

I think it's a confirmed PG.

Anyhow, looks like Piccolo was colored digitally, according to the JUMP scans.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:02 pm

There are plenty of good PG movies. I mean, most of the Rocky movies are PG.

Also, I am assuming there is no swearing, and because the action is so stylized (yah know, cartoony) it got the PG. There will probably be little to no blood. I think most of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies were PG also, I just don't feel like looking it up, and both of those film series's have plenty of great action.

But yeah, the potential Z sequel will have to be PG-13 I think.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:22 pm

omegacwa wrote:There are plenty of good PG movies. I mean, most of the Rocky movies are PG.

Also, I am assuming there is no swearing, and because the action is so stylized (yah know, cartoony) it got the PG. There will probably be little to no blood. I think most of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies were PG also, I just don't feel like looking it up, and both of those film series's have plenty of great action.

But yeah, the potential Z sequel will have to be PG-13 I think.

I like looking stuff up, so:

Lost Ark - PG
Temple of Doom - PG
Last Crusade - PG-13
Crystal Skull - PG-13

Star Wars - PG
SW V - PG
SW VI - PG
SW I - PG
SW II - PG
SW III - PG-13

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:23 pm

The PG/PG-13 line's a complicated issue for us. I get the feeling that the fandom in general isn't shooting for PG-13 for the violence- it's shooting for a more serious tone rarely found in American made PG films.

< < And if they'd just told us the green would be added digitally in the first place (I'm guessing for sake of not glowig through green screens), that really would have been helpful. Really helpful for my effing state of mid for those few weeks -- Seriously.

On the whole right now? I think this thing'll have good points and fun little notes on and off that relate back to the original. The rest will be embaressing to terrible. But it still is looking better than it started off looking.

On Dragonballmovieblog I believe Chatwin said something about the second sript going much deeper into the backstories of the universe they've got there- now that sounds pretty interesting. Obviusly there'll be the Sayiajin/Freezer stuff, but I'm mostly curious if it'll touch on a version of the Namekseijin as well, and what they'd do with them. Tere's indications they wouldn't (though when Dragonball itself came out there were false earth origins for Daimaou and the balls and such), but it's still interesting to think about.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:31 pm

Chuquita wrote:I like looking stuff up, so:

Lost Ark - PG
Temple of Doom - PG
Last Crusade - PG-13
Crystal Skull - PG-13

Star Wars - PG
SW V - PG
SW VI - PG
SW I - PG
SW II - PG
SW III - PG-13

It's worth noting that the PG-13 rating wasn't invented until July 1984. Red Dawn (August 10, 1984) was the first movie rated PG-13.

Temple of Doom was May 1984, Last Crusade was '89, and the Original Star Wars Trilogy ended in '83.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:51 pm

Worthy of note: Logan's Run has a PG rating and full frontal nudity, plus an orgy scene.

That was in 1976, one year before the original Star Wars.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:55 pm

Velasa wrote:The PG/PG-13 line's a complicated issue for us. I get the feeling that the fandom in general isn't shooting for PG-13 for the violence- it's shooting for a more serious tone rarely found in American made PG films.

< < And if they'd just told us the green would be added digitally in the first place (I'm guessing for sake of not glowig through green screens), that really would have been helpful. Really helpful for my effing state of mid for those few weeks -- Seriously.

On the whole right now? I think this thing'll have good points and fun little notes on and off that relate back to the original. The rest will be embaressing to terrible. But it still is looking better than it started off looking.

On Dragonballmovieblog I believe Chatwin said something about the second sript going much deeper into the backstories of the universe they've got there- now that sounds pretty interesting. Obviusly there'll be the Sayiajin/Freezer stuff, but I'm mostly curious if it'll touch on a version of the Namekseijin as well, and what they'd do with them. Tere's indications they wouldn't (though when Dragonball itself came out there were false earth origins for Daimaou and the balls and such), but it's still interesting to think about.

http://dbthemovie.com/2009/02/18/sequel ... y-written/

I was told minor details about the script. It's not worth posting though until this movie makes money.

Also, to anyone who lives in U.K.:

not sure if this is newsworthy, or if it's already been reported, but I've been seeing TV advertisements on the UK channel of Nickelodeon. Just thought I'd let you guys know!

Jonny

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:02 pm

JAPPO wrote:
Velasa wrote:The PG/PG-13 line's a complicated issue for us. I get the feeling that the fandom in general isn't shooting for PG-13 for the violence- it's shooting for a more serious tone rarely found in American made PG films.

< < And if they'd just told us the green would be added digitally in the first place (I'm guessing for sake of not glowig through green screens), that really would have been helpful. Really helpful for my effing state of mid for those few weeks -- Seriously.

On the whole right now? I think this thing'll have good points and fun little notes on and off that relate back to the original. The rest will be embaressing to terrible. But it still is looking better than it started off looking.

On Dragonballmovieblog I believe Chatwin said something about the second sript going much deeper into the backstories of the universe they've got there- now that sounds pretty interesting. Obviusly there'll be the Sayiajin/Freezer stuff, but I'm mostly curious if it'll touch on a version of the Namekseijin as well, and what they'd do with them. Tere's indications they wouldn't (though when Dragonball itself came out there were false earth origins for Daimaou and the balls and such), but it's still interesting to think about.
http://dbthemovie.com/2009/02/18/sequel ... y-written/

I was told minor details about the script. It's not worth posting though until this movie makes money.

Also, to anyone who lives in U.K.:

not sure if this is newsworthy, or if it's already been reported, but I've been seeing TV advertisements on the UK channel of Nickelodeon. Just thought I'd let you guys know!

Jonny

Even if the movie ends up not making enough cash to make a sequel feasible, would you tell us the minor details anyway?

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:34 pm

I'll bet it would turn out the sequel would be brilliant, if the first one flops.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:55 pm

If you didn't want a realistic take on the franchise the sequel does away with the more grounded-in-reality stuff.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:06 pm

JAPPO wrote:If you didn't want a realistic take on the franchise the sequel does away with the more grounded-in-reality stuff.

Seeing as how it probably wouldn't dwell much on Earth-related stuff, I wouldn't be surprised.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:13 pm

I'd love to see how they handle other planets with the kind of visuals they are using for this movie.

It may seem weird, but I love the way this movie looks visually.

HoustonRH7 · Post by **HoustonRH7** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:26 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Worthy of note: Logan's Run has a PG rating and full frontal nudity, plus an orgy scene.

That was in 1976, one year before the original Star Wars.

Rocketman wrote:
It's worth noting that the PG-13 rating wasn't invented until July 1984.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:27 pm

This is just my opinion not fact.

I would prefer it if they merged the Saiyan saga with the Freeza saga. Got rid of Nappa and Radditz and told both stories simultaneously by starting the movie off with an origin story like "Bardock The Father of Goku." After we see Bardock getting killed by Freeza, it sets up the rest of the movie. It would be emotional enough to get the audience interested.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:32 pm

HoustonRH7 wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Worthy of note: Logan's Run has a PG rating and full frontal nudity, plus an orgy scene.

That was in 1976, one year before the original Star Wars.

Rocketman wrote:
It's worth noting that the PG-13 rating wasn't invented until July 1984.

Yes, I was ADDING to the point. I was saying "Rocketman's right. Standards in the 1970s and early 80s were VERY different". Otherwise, the year would be somewhat stupid to mention. O_o

JAPPO wrote:This is just my opinion not fact.

I would prefer it if they merged the Saiyan saga with the Freeza saga. Got rid of Nappa and Radditz and told both stories simultaneously by starting the movie off with an origin story like "Bardock The Father of Goku." After we see Bardock getting killed by Freeza, it sets up the rest of the movie. It would be emotional enough to get the audience interested.

I think it'd be better to cut out the Ginyu Tokusentai than Nappa. Just heavily decrease Nappa's role.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:38 pm

Oh, come on! You would rob us of live action Ginyu stuff?

It would be hilarious!

HoustonRH7 · Post by **HoustonRH7** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:41 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: I think it'd be better to cut out the Ginyu Tokusentai than Nappa. Just heavily decrease Nappa's role.

Really? They both tend to serve the same overall purpose: keeping the other characters busy while Goku is off, then staying around just long enough for Goku to show off his new strength. I think Nappa serves another great purpose so far as when Vegeta kills him he shows exactly how ruthless he is, thus making his later transformation even more amazing.

It seems to me like you've gotta go From the anime beginning of Z through the fight with Vegeta, and then from the journey to Namek through the Freeza fight. Though this does create an interesting reocurrance:
movie 1, villain: Piccolo
movie 2, Piccolo redeemed, Vegeta becomes the villain
movie 3, Vegeta redeemed (sort of...), Freeza becomes the villain

Also, if you're going to reduce Nappa's role, how do you think you could do that without the weight that comes with him killing off these other characters? Granted, it might be easier since most of them won't have the backstory (and emotional attachment) that they came with in the manga/anime...

Ducard · Post by **Ducard** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:55 pm

Piccolo's redemption will be interesting considering he kills the original Gohan.

I'd rather Freeza have his own movie. However, fusing the two sagas would be pretty interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if they included some sort of Bardock scene, added Freeza's forces to Earth to complicate the search for the Dragonballs, then finished with Goku fighting Freeza high in the atmosphere by his spaceship, a la Bardock's final moments.

B · Post by B » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:01 pm

Freeza would need a lot fo reformatting, since two primary characters of that saga aren't there(yet. If this movie series is successful, I can see the inclusion of Gohan down the line), and a new reason for Piccolo to switch sides, if they include him at all.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:16 pm

B wrote:Freeza would need a lot fo reformatting, since two primary characters of that saga aren't there(yet. If this movie series is successful, I can see the inclusion of Gohan down the line), and a new reason for Piccolo to switch sides, if they include him at all.

Not to mention, should the movie follow the storyline from the manga, part of Vegeta's plot has been stolen as well as the Saiyajin/Freeza plot in general, what with the Saiyajin apparently working for Piccolo. If they went with the Saiyajin working for Freeza in a sequel, it'd seem like a poor rehash probably.

-Corey