Don't you just hate it when people think DB is for kids...

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Post by kusakun004 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:30 pm

Honestly, I don't have a problem with it being called a kids show (maybe if it's called a little kid's show I would be a bit bothered). The only thing that bothers me is when shows like YYH are considered "teen" shows when they're obviously targeting the same audience as DB.
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Post by B » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:45 pm

DBHighDefinition wrote:
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Deep Thought wrote:Ugh, we didn't have this problem with the Loony Tunes or Tom and Jerry. Both of those shows were accepted as "kid's shows" yet adults/teenagers could watch them without being teased or insulted.

Why is DBZ or any other anime similar to it different in that respect? Someone enlighten me.
Ironically, Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes were more intended for adults than Dragon Ball ever was.
Do explain. :roll:
Tom has been hit with every inaminate object known to man, dude. The only thing keeping Tom and Jerry from being a fullbown adutl cartoon is realism. Tom's cut up nito little pieces. In real life, there would be blood everywhere after each cut. He's been hit in the head WITH AN IRON. WITH AN ANVIL. HE'S A CAT. CAT'S ARE SMALL, IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO HURT A FUCKING CAT, MAN.

as for Looney Tunes, Pepé Le Pew cartoons are basically dumbed-down rape footage.

Dragon Ball is a kids show. America's standards classify it as for older children, but it's a kids show.
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Post by Nyogo » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:27 pm

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RoarkVegeta wrote:Yeah. I recently got my parents to buy me Dragonball stuff. They banned me from it for months because it was too "kiddy".
Wouldn't they rather you be watching DB then something ultra-violent and ultra-sex-filled?
Yeah, that's one thing I don't understand. Shouldn't parents be commending their children for not watching shows that have a much worse influence? Does it make you mature if you like hearing profane language? I think not! I like to have a few laughs sometimes, you know? That's why I watch shows like iCarly.

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Post by Kid Trunks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:17 pm

People thinking it's a kids show is fine. But people who think I shouldn't watch it because its a kids show, I don't like that, not that I get too worked up about it or anything.

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Post by vershiris » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:37 am

Sorry guys, I obviously thought wrong.

I had thought that because of the bood, swearing, perverted roshi moments and other bits and pieces that dragonball was in a way, made for adults.

I had thought it was like The Simpsons... in a way. With the simpsons, the show was origionally intended for adults, but its become such a huge hit, the majority of its fans are kids.

I thought this was the same with DragonBall.

Sorry guys! :(

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Post by Bussani » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:42 am

vershiris wrote:Sorry guys! :(
Don't worry about it! Blame how the west treats animation in general. Or hell, anything really; even Japan's Super Sentai shows are more violent than their Power Ranger counterparts.

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Post by ShinRogafuken » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:41 am

vershiris wrote:Sorry guys, I obviously thought wrong.

I had thought that because of the bood, swearing, perverted roshi moments and other bits and pieces that dragonball was in a way, made for adults.

I had thought it was like The Simpsons... in a way. With the simpsons, the show was origionally intended for adults, but its become such a huge hit, the majority of its fans are kids.

I thought this was the same with DragonBall.

Sorry guys! :(

Dragon Ball IS an adult's show Lewis, but it's also a kid's show. People of all ages (well maybe not 3 year olds :lol:) can enjoy the show.

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Post by B » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:03 am

ShinRogafuken wrote:Dragon Ball IS an adult's show Lewis, but it's also a kid's show. People of all ages (well maybe not 3 year olds :lol:) can enjoy the show.
Half-true. Yes, it can be enjoyed by anyone, but it's still primarily a kids' show.

Hell, ANYTHING can be enjoyed by anyone, but EVERYTHING'S got a demographic.
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Post by ShinRogafuken » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:07 am

B wrote:
ShinRogafuken wrote:Dragon Ball IS an adult's show Lewis, but it's also a kid's show. People of all ages (well maybe not 3 year olds :lol:) can enjoy the show.
Half-true. Yes, it can be enjoyed by anyone, but it's still primarily a kids' show.

Hell, ANYTHING can be enjoyed by anyone, but EVERYTHING'S got a demographic.
I didn't mean demographics. If you want to get hardcore with that, this is what Dragon Ball is:

Japan- Kid's show
USA- Kid's show (The edited version)
USA- Teen's show (The uncut version)

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Post by The Tori-bot » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:23 am

vershiris wrote:Sorry guys! :(
You should be. :x

Kidding. :P

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RoarkVegeta wrote:Yeah. I recently got my parents to buy me Dragonball stuff. They banned me from it for months because it was too "kiddy".
Oh my God. I really don't know whether to put a ":lol:", ":cry:" or ":|". What idiots!

If you actually like these imbeciles, my apologies. :P

Mabye they're homophobes and they think that watching kids' shows makes you gay. :roll:

Just show them the Makankosappo part, then tell them to say it's "too kiddy". That'll show 'em! 8)
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Post by Wasted Wisher » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:39 am

Thing is, Japan really has different standards for what is acceptable for what demographic. There really is no way around that but to accept it. On top of that, what was acceptable then may not be as acceptable now, or vice-versa.

Dragonball really did start off as a kiddie anime, and even then it had violence and naughtiness that would have made it rated for teens in the US.

As Dragonball's audience grew up, so did the manga and anime. By the time the anime became "Z", it was most definitely aimed for at least a teen audience, what with the more serious mood and more action.

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Post by SaiyaChick101 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:52 am

In America, it also depends on the parents preference in what their children watch.
We all know that DB/DBZ was made for kids in Japan but in America many (not all) parents are more cautious of what their kids watch so hence the show is more intended for teens in America.
I'm a mom of two, one 6 yr. old and one 8 yr. old and they both love DB and DBZ (uncut version). They love the comedy and fighting; and I enjoy the story line.

But I wasn't raised by prudish parents so therefore I'm no prude.


Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents out there.

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Post by Kid Trunks » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:25 pm

B wrote:
ShinRogafuken wrote:Dragon Ball IS an adult's show Lewis, but it's also a kid's show. People of all ages (well maybe not 3 year olds :lol:) can enjoy the show.
Half-true. Yes, it can be enjoyed by anyone, but it's still primarily a kids' show.
I agree. Although I'd be more likely to put in the same category as Batman:TAS (albeit Dragonball is a little more childish than that), rather than the likes of Scooby Doo or whatever...That's not to say I don't like Scooby Doo!

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Post by Gozar » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:48 pm

Well it IS a kids show. It's aimed at young boys. But I do hate it when people think that ONLY kids can enjoy it. A good deal of Shonen stories easily defy their age demographic. Just like Fruits Basket is very well known for defying it's gender demographic. The problem is, I see some people on YouTube and whatnot who don't really watch Anime and just remember DBZ from their childhood. Unlike the Anime Fan Base, many Americans still think that unless it's on Fox's Sunday Night Line up that only little kids can enjoy animation.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:32 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Dragon Ball Z uncut, BY THIS COUNTRY'S STANDARDS isn't suitable for kids.
Err, if memory serves, weren't the "OMG UNCUT LOOK ORIGINAL JAPANESE" FUNi releases marked as "13 and older"?

I dunno about you, but when I was 13 (oh God, help, I'm old...) I was still a kid.

Anyway, just to run it into the ground, DragonBall was made for young boys. However, it has material that people of all ages can enjoy, much like some comics and cartoons in America (X-Men, Spider-Man, Gargoyles, Tiny Toon Adventures/Animaniacs/Freakazoid, etc.). There's nothing wrong with liking a program just because it was made for kids.

Now, if you go somewhere and spend time talking to kids about the show, then there's obviously something wrong with you.

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Post by RyujiOtogi » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:28 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Dragon Ball Z uncut, BY THIS COUNTRY'S STANDARDS isn't suitable for kids.
Err, if memory serves, weren't the "OMG UNCUT LOOK ORIGINAL JAPANESE" FUNi releases marked as "13 and older"?

I dunno about you, but when I was 13 (oh God, help, I'm old...) I was still a kid.

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Actually, I remember a FUNi representative saying the uncut season sets were targeted for 9 year olds. :o
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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:37 pm

RyujiOtogi wrote:Actually, I remember a FUNi representative saying the uncut season sets were targeted for 9 year olds. :o
Ha, yeah. The "there's a nine year old born every day" remark. The actual boxes (for the older singles, not the newer sets) themselves I believe said 13 and older though. Dunno what the newer ones say.

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Post by DBHighDefinition » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:46 pm

RyujiOtogi wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Dragon Ball Z uncut, BY THIS COUNTRY'S STANDARDS isn't suitable for kids.
Err, if memory serves, weren't the "OMG UNCUT LOOK ORIGINAL JAPANESE" FUNi releases marked as "13 and older"?

I dunno about you, but when I was 13 (oh God, help, I'm old...) I was still a kid.

-Corey
Actually, I remember a FUNi representative saying the uncut season sets were targeted for 9 year olds. :o
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:50 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
RyujiOtogi wrote:Actually, I remember a FUNi representative saying the uncut season sets were targeted for 9 year olds. :o
Ha, yeah. The "there's a nine year old born every day" remark. The actual boxes (for the older singles, not the newer sets) themselves I believe said 13 and older though. Dunno what the newer ones say.

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The DB sets always came with a 13+ sticker on them.

The new sets just have a TV-PG rating in a tiny box on the back.

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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:59 pm

Doesn't bother me one bit that it's a kids show. I mean, it does get a bit AWKWARD at times, yet it's all good. No need to deny somthing that is now a fact well known by most and if not all. This movie that is coming out only makes my point ever stronger that it is indeed written and produced for a age range of 9-15 year olds. Feel free to rage at this, even though I don't believe it for a second. I just happened to be in the barrio. Chao.
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