Don't you just hate it when people think DB is for kids...

B · Post by B » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:05 am

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NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:49 am

Jerseymilk wrote:

Did I make some form of a social faux pa I'm not aware of?

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:34 am

What in the world is wrong with you people who think Dragon Ball has no depth?! It has a world of depth! It covers 30 years! I think it does a great job conveying the nature of social networks; I thought it interesting that in Dragon Ball the characters were one close group, while in Dragon Ball Z thanks to generation gaps and whatnot, things became more scattered and disorganized. It's like in Dragon Ball it's immediate family only, then in Dragon Ball Z it's expanded to extended family.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:14 pm

I didn't read any of this post but here's the scoop from my opinion.

Dragonball is for kids. No if's ands or buts. It is a shonen series, which means it is directed at young boys. Just because there is violence, blood and sexualtiy doesn't mean it is not for kids.

We in the U.S. have been taught that violence, blood and sex are all adult matters, so most of our kids shows, with a few exceptions don't really include much of this. That's just how our culture developed. The U.S. comes from a puritan background, with strict "moral" codes and what not, and although we have developed past most of these "social" boundaries, we as a people still hold some of these beliefs.

The Japanese people, as a culture, seem to be less worried about these things. I don't really know if there are any religious connotations, but the Japanese people are much more, um, liberated lets say. Children are treated more like adults. People are more free from censorship.

So, what is for kids in Japan might seem "more adult" in the U.S. just because of our different backgrounds/religions and culture.

Just because a lot of us DaizenshuuEXers are adults, doesn't mean that the show was intended for adults. Is it wrong to like a kids show as an adult, of course not. I personally plan to follow DB probably for my whole life, unless at some point all new DB related material is finally cut off, then I guess all I'll have are my collection and memories.

Krakabeast · Post by **Krakabeast** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:52 pm

omegacwa wrote:I personally plan to follow DB probably for my whole life, unless at some point all new DB related material is finally cut off, then I guess all I'll have are my collection and memories.

With today's technology, that's not happening.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:36 pm

As it's been established, it's definitely a kid's show.

One thing I do hate, however, is when people try to say other shows, such as Naruto or One Piece, are intended for older crowds and not for kids...when they have basically the same type of things you'd find in the Dragon Ball franchise.

Lord knows how many damned kids try claiming Naruto is "an adult show" just because there's a perverted sage, fanservice every now and then, lots of violence, and fansubbers throwing in swears where there shouldn't be.

...Wait, why does this sound familiar?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:16 pm

Tsukento wrote:As it's been established, it's definitely a kid's show.

One thing I do hate, however, is when people try to say other shows, such as Naruto or One Piece, are intended for older crowds and not for kids...when they have basically the same type of things you'd find in the Dragon Ball franchise.

Lord knows how many damned kids try claiming Naruto is "an adult show" just because there's a perverted sage, fanservice every now and then, lots of violence, and fansubbers throwing in swears where there shouldn't be.

...Wait, why does this sound familiar?

Naruto? Violent? Haha!

Maybe it's just me, but Naruto(pre-timeskip) at its most violent still isn't anywhere near One Piece at it's least violent. Sure, maybe a few things, but I definitely would not give it any higher than a TV-PG(if that) for violence.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:45 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:

Did I make some form of a social faux pa I'm not aware of?

You called her a man.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:46 pm

Super Sonic wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:

Did I make some form of a social faux pa I'm not aware of?

You called her a man.

Well excuuuuuuussseeeeeee me princess.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:55 pm

Regarding the swearing issue, amusingly enough, the Danish translation of the manga has both "fuck" and "shit" in it, and is still labelled "for ages 9 and up".

Daijuken · Post by **Daijuken** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:57 pm

Adamant wrote:Regarding the swearing issue, amusingly enough, the Danish translation of the manga has both "fuck" and "shit" in it, and is still labelled "for ages 9 and up".

Man, talk about being laid back.

...Seriously?

El Diabeetus · Post by **El Diabeetus** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:22 pm

Adamant wrote:Regarding the swearing issue, amusingly enough, the Danish translation of the manga has both "fuck" and "shit" in it, and is still labelled "for ages 9 and up".

You know what FUNimation says, A new 9-year old is born everyday. Besides, they'll here "Fuck" and "Shit" and any other swear words at some point in their life.

But, yeah. Dragon Ball will always be a kids show.
I do find it kinda funny though in GT most of Vegeta's sentences (In the Japanese Version) have the work bastard, hell or dammit in there.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:45 pm

Dr. Casey wrote:What in the world is wrong with you people who think Dragon Ball has no depth?! It has a world of depth! It covers 30 years! I think it does a great job conveying the nature of social networks; I thought it interesting that in Dragon Ball the characters were one close group, while in Dragon Ball Z thanks to generation gaps and whatnot, things became more scattered and disorganized. It's like in Dragon Ball it's immediate family only, then in Dragon Ball Z it's expanded to extended family.

And yet none of that is important to enjoy the show.

We're not saying Dragon Ball doesn't have it's thought provoking moments.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:49 pm

On a somewhat related point, in one of the Tenkaichi games Jeice says something like 'Let's go, wanker!'...which I found hilarious, since in England at least that's something most parents would belt their child for saying in any half-decent company

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:55 pm

Cypher wrote:On a somewhat related point, in one of the Tenkaichi games Jeice says something like 'Let's go, wanker!'...which I found hilarious, since in England at least that's something most parents would belt their child for saying in any half-decent company

That reminds me of the first Harry Potter movie when Ron says to his teacher "that's bloody brilliant!" and she thanks him for the compliment. If I'm not mistaken the word "bloody" in that context is fairly unaccepted.

Daijuken · Post by **Daijuken** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:00 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Cypher wrote:On a somewhat related point, in one of the Tenkaichi games Jeice says something like 'Let's go, wanker!'...which I found hilarious, since in England at least that's something most parents would belt their child for saying in any half-decent company
That reminds me of the first Harry Potter movie when Ron says to his teacher "that's bloody brilliant!" and she thanks him for the compliment. If I'm not mistaken the word "bloody" in that context is fairly unaccepted.

Uhh, "bloody" is by no means unacceptable. In England, it's part of the everyday language here, and can be said by anyone in almost any situation.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:01 pm

Yeah, that's true; 'wanker' is however probably above 'shit' and under 'fuck' expletive-wise (unless you're referring to a friend as such, in which case it's somewhat acceptable)...just as an example, you could get away with being overheard saying 'Bloody hell' by a teacher; if you said 'Jimmy, stop being such a wanker' you'd be for it. Just seemed odd that in bringing the game to the U.K. no-one caught that...he doesn't say it in BT3, though, so someone removed it

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:01 pm

Cultural difference with that. Kind of how I heard PPG had a few edits in England because they said things like "bugger" and "bollocks" that sound funny here, but are naughty over there. Also heard "ninja" was a bad word over there so wasn't surprised when I heard Naruto got edited more there than on CN.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:02 pm

Daijuken wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Cypher wrote:On a somewhat related point, in one of the Tenkaichi games Jeice says something like 'Let's go, wanker!'...which I found hilarious, since in England at least that's something most parents would belt their child for saying in any half-decent company
That reminds me of the first Harry Potter movie when Ron says to his teacher "that's bloody brilliant!" and she thanks him for the compliment. If I'm not mistaken the word "bloody" in that context is fairly unaccepted.
Uhh, "bloody" is by no means unacceptable. In England, it's part of the everyday language here, and can be said by anyone in almost any situation.

Oh yeah? I heard teachers would find it unacceptable from a certain podcast but it seems they were misinformed.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:03 pm

It cracks me up when you're watching a fairly innocuous American programme (likely a sitcom), and some English guy turns up and starts going on about 'Bollocks' and such...someone should probably explain to them what it actually means (but then, if it means nothing over there I guess there's no real need...does sound funny I guess)

NeptuneKai- it would to some extent depend on the context; I can't quite think how though...like Daijuken said, 'bloody' is said every 5 minutes over here, so probably it's more acceptable simply because it's so commonly used; that said, a teacher MIGHT turn around and give you detention or something if they were so inclined...'wanker' however, I think would get you in the applecart right away.

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