Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:04 pm

I'm going to have to go look up that Season 3 Kuririn's "hear my howl" Porunga summoning dub scene to compare to Chatku's "test of seven".

You know, to see how they stack up against each other.

Super Sayian Prime · Post by **Super Sayian Prime** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:09 pm

omegacwa wrote:Well, we can all blame Capcom for the failings of the new Street Fighter movie because apparently they had a huge hand in it and it was there decision to make Chun Li the main character and not have Ryu and Ken. Also they are the ones that decided the the characters shouldn't look at all like there game counterparts, because well all know, that's what made the JCVD Street Fighter bad

They also had a hand in the JCVD Street Fighter, saying all the characters from the arcade games had to be in it. But Ken and Ryu being side characters, and that whole weird military plot...

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:14 pm

Well the reviews are tricking in and it's pretty much confirmed that the movie is pretty much awful. From the sound of things the movie isn't even funny bad, which means that it's just sucks. I tried to be optimistic about the whole thing and I kept saying "It can't be THAT bad" but it looks like I was wrong. I honestly don't see how anyone could remain optimistic at this point. I think the most disappointing thing about this whole mess is that if it had fallen into the hands of a better company it really could have turned out great. Now we'll probably never have a respectable Dragon Ball movie. Though looking at it now it's probably for the best. Is there anything else Dragon Ball related to look forward too now?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:16 pm

omegacwa wrote:I think people need to see an actually terrible movie with terrible acting before they make such claims.

I've seen the movie Showgirls. And numerous pornographic films. But I repeat myself ;p

I think that somewhat solidifies my ability to judge "terrible movies" and "terrible acting."

-Corey

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:18 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:Well the reviews are tricking in and it's pretty much confirmed that the movie is pretty much awful. From the sound of things the movie isn't even funny bad, which means that it's just sucks. I tried to be optimistic about the whole thing and I kept saying "It can't be THAT bad" but it looks like I was wrong. I honestly don't see how anyone could remain optimistic at this point. I think the most disappointing thing about this whole mess is that if it had fallen into the hands of a better company it really could have turned out great. Now we'll probably never have a respectable Dragon Ball movie. Though looking at it now it's probably for the best. Is there anything else Dragon Ball related to look forward too now?

I agree with 'another company could have done a respectable job'.
Such bad luck...I'd have enjoyed a PG-13 high-intensity battle scene with ki blasts that look like ki blasts and an in-character Son Goku.

There's still Kai...

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:22 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:Well the reviews are tricking in and it's pretty much confirmed that the movie is pretty much awful. From the sound of things the movie isn't even funny bad, which means that it's just sucks. I tried to be optimistic about the whole thing and I kept saying "It can't be THAT bad" but it looks like I was wrong. I honestly don't see how anyone could remain optimistic at this point. I think the most disappointing thing about this whole mess is that if it had fallen into the hands of a better company it really could have turned out great. Now we'll probably never have a respectable Dragon Ball movie. Though looking at it now it's probably for the best. Is there anything else Dragon Ball related to look forward too now?

Please cite these reviews. Are they official reviews or just fan reviews?

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:23 pm

Here check it out: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320938

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:42 pm

Well it looks like the live action movie saga is finally wrapping up. Has this whole ordeal gotten anybody else in the mood to watch the old Chinese movie and this one back to back? I think your mind might explode if you tried to do that.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:46 pm

You know there was a time where I thought there was no way it could be worse that "The Magic Begins" but shit it's looking like it could be. At least with that movie you could understand why it was bad because of the time it was made and stuff but Evolution has no excuse. They had a 100 million dollars budget. Make that shit work.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:49 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:Well it looks like the live action movie saga is finally wrapping up.

Hey, don't be so hasty. A lot or most of us still have almost a whole month to go before we get to see it for ourselves.

At this rate I suspect I'll still get a kick out of it, but it'll be at a rather shallow level. Not a "laughable" one, but more like a "yeah, that was pretty cool, but not much else," y'know?

It's a shame that a lot of the aspects I was looking forward to seem to have been either shortened or omitted. I wonder just how many potentially good parts were left on the cutting room floor.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:49 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:Here check it out: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320938

I think he is talking about “Atthemovies” type stuff, news papers, etc., big names not something someone threw together online.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:54 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:Here check it out: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320938
I think he is talking about “Atthemovies” type stuff, news papers, etc., big names not something someone threw together online.

That thread does appear to reference at least one actual news publication.

-Corey

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:00 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:Well it looks like the live action movie saga is finally wrapping up.
Hey, don't be so hasty. A lot or most of us still have almost a whole month to go before we get to see it.

At this rate I suspect I'll still get a kick out of it, but it'll be at a rather shallow level. Not a "laughable" one, but more like a "yeah, that was pretty cool, but not much else," y'know?

It's a shame that a lot of the aspects I was looking forward to seem to have been either shortened or omitted. I wonder just how many potentially good parts were left on the cutting room floor.

I'm wondering if a directors cut or something of the like might make this movie a little better. Regardless I think once this movie becomes a few years older, all the hype dies down and it possibly spawns a sequel or two I might look at it in a different light like I did with Phantom Menace. When all the hubub died down about that movie I could enjoy and accept it for what it was. A slightly goofy somewhat campy sci-fi movie that was just cheesy enough to be charming. Was I pissed off when it was released? Hell yeah I was, all of that waiting for virtually nothing. But rewatching it with lower expectations really helped me appreciate it. (It also helps I loved episode 2 and 3)

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:09 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:I'm wondering if a directors cut or something of the like might make this movie a little better.

That's what I'd think. Needs moar Piccolo.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:10 pm

B wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I think people need to see an actually terrible movie with terrible acting before they make such claims. From what I have seen so far the movie appears to be mediocre or just ok. It doesn't appear to be terrible. I haven't seen the movie so I can't say for sure, but that's how it looks to me so far.
No one(in America) has seen this movie yet.

I wonder if someone will sub the Japanese dub before April rolls around.

That sounds pretty complicated.

An English sub of a Japanese dub of an English movie based off of a Japanese series.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:11 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:Here check it out: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320938
I think he is talking about “Atthemovies” type stuff, news papers, etc., big names not something someone threw together online.
That thread does appear to reference at least one actual news publication.

-Corey

Yeah, I know but I do not trust anything a fan touched, I will just wait until the movie comes out here in the States.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:15 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yeah, I know but I do not trust anything a fan touched, I will just wait until the movie comes out here in the States.

Err, the review referenced is on the Korea Herald's website.

Question for Greg though: What role, if any, did Kaiosama play in this film? One of the pieces on the soundtrack is named after him which had caused quite a bit of speculation.

-Corey

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:38 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yeah, I know but I do not trust anything a fan touched, I will just wait until the movie comes out here in the States.
Err, the review referenced is on the Korea Herald's website...

I was talking about well known and objective American critics.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:42 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yeah, I know but I do not trust anything a fan touched, I will just wait until the movie comes out here in the States.
Err, the review referenced is on the Korea Herald's website...
I was talking about well known and objective American critics.

No offense, but no such thing exists. Every critic has some bias. Hell, every human being has some bias. Besides, what does it matter that they aren't American? The studio saw some advantage to premiering the movie overseas and even cast a few prominent Japanese/Chinese/Korean celebrities in main roles.

-Corey

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:51 pm

I am waiting for a Roger Ebert review(if he does one), we seem to see eye to eye on most movies.