Don't you just hate it when people think DB is for kids...

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:51 pm

So, the average Japanese person apparently contains 10 gallons of blood under very high pressure.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:02 pm

lol Futurama has nothing that is aimed at adults. Kids can watch it just fine. Simpsons is the same. South Park can also be a kids' show because...well kids can watch it and no problem. I don't think these shows are AIMED at anyone. They're just drawn shows and all the rest is left up to interpretation. In many shows, when something taboo is shown, such as gore or a slur curse word or something, that's made for shock value. And kids react the best to that.

Ducard · Post by **Ducard** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:09 pm

So, the average Japanese person apparently contains 10 gallons of blood under very high pressure.

Aw man, I got a paper cu-- *WHOOSH*

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:37 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Futurama has nothing that is aimed at adults.

Definitely not, never mind the constant maths and physics jokes that children couldn't possibly understand, and the often very obscure sci-fi references.

For example one joke has the crew at the horse races, Farnsworth's horse lost to the other in a "Quantum finish", Farnsworth then stands up outraged and yells "No fair!, you changed the outcome by observing it!", referring to the Uncertainty principle and the Observer effect. Futurama is absolutely packed with these jokes, it's a show that has a lot written with adults in mind, but can also be enjoyed on a base level by everybody.

B · Post by B » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:09 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:lol Futurama has nothing that is aimed at adults. Kids can watch it just fine. Simpsons is the same. South Park can also be a kids' show because...well kids can watch it and no problem. I don't think these shows are AIMED at anyone. They're just drawn shows and all the rest is left up to interpretation. In many shows, when something taboo is shown, such as gore or a slur curse word or something, that's made for shock value. And kids react the best to that.

Again, anything can be enjoyed by anyone, to an extent. All those shows are aimed at adults.

I find it funny that the Futurama movies(at least, the two I saw) were dumbed down to hell in the jokes department. They were funny, but in a different way than I found the series funny.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:33 pm

B wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:lol Futurama has nothing that is aimed at adults. Kids can watch it just fine. Simpsons is the same. South Park can also be a kids' show because...well kids can watch it and no problem. I don't think these shows are AIMED at anyone. They're just drawn shows and all the rest is left up to interpretation. In many shows, when something taboo is shown, such as gore or a slur curse word or something, that's made for shock value. And kids react the best to that.
Again, anything can be enjoyed by anyone, to an extent. All those shows are aimed at adults.

I find it funny that the Futurama movies(at least, the two I saw) were dumbed down to hell in the jokes department. They were funny, but in a different way than I found the series funny.

So it wasn't just my imagination then.

B · Post by B » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:37 pm

To be honest, I only saw one and half. I didn't even finish Beast with a Billion Backs, but man, it was just stupid funny, the kind of funny you would never see in an actual episode of the show.

ME?

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:41 am

Holy crap, are those scenes from the HnK movie? Cause I was certain the TV series was edited from the manga in the sense that bodies turned into silhouettes and the color of blood spray was white against a dark background.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:20 am

Tsukento wrote:Holy crap, are those scenes from the HnK movie? Cause I was certain the TV series was edited from the manga in the sense that bodies turned into silhouettes and the color of blood spray was white against a dark background.

Yeah, they went all out with the movie.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:13 am

Reminds me of how 11-12 years ago, would see Fist of the North Star in Suncoast and they had stickers on the videos that said "Must be 18 with ID to purchase".

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:31 am

Rocketman wrote:So, the average Japanese person apparently contains 10 gallons of blood under very high pressure.

I learned this from Guyver.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:32 am

Olivier Hague wrote:
Tsukento wrote:Holy crap, are those scenes from the HnK movie? Cause I was certain the TV series was edited from the manga in the sense that bodies turned into silhouettes and the color of blood spray was white against a dark background.
Yeah, they went all out with the movie.

Honestly, it seems a bit "unfair" to me to use the movie, when the TV show or the manga would be a far, far better comparison.

Not that it makes SO much difference, but I'm not sure what the cultural stigmas for anime and manga are in the US. But they did consider scenes like that inappropriate for TV at certain hours, so comics must be a bit more lax like they are here when it comes to the seriousness of subjects allowed to be presented?

I dunno. The movie seems to be "separate" from the "this is for a bunch of kids" demographic of the manga and anime series. When you go from the timeslot of the show or the publication of the manga, you change demographics?

I'm tired and feeling a bit ill, so I may have just made no sense whatsoever.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:55 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:09 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:And yes, the movie was likewise aimed at the same target demographic as the manga and TV series to the best of my knowledge: Shonen (little boys).

And yet, there's the matter of medium. The TV show was condensed, though aimed at the same demographic. Different standards for different mediums.

Comics were aimed at the same demographic as most cartoons, but got away with a lot more. "Seduction of the Innocent" and all that. Standards chang from censor to censor and culture to culture. The most fair comparison, then, would be to compare the HnK anime to the DBZ anime, or the manga to the manga.

Just for the sake of as much possible consistancy.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:16 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Reminds me of how 11-12 years ago, would see Fist of the North Star in Suncoast and they had stickers on the videos that said "Must be 18 with ID to purchase".

Same here.

I remember my older brother telling me about how there was this cartoon where a guy punched people and they exploded and I was all like.

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:43 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:

... ew.

The other pictures I don't mind so much, but this one makes me squeamish. I just checked my neck to make sure it wasn't ripping apart at the seams.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:23 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:46 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote:And yes, the movie was likewise aimed at the same target demographic as the manga and TV series to the best of my knowledge: Shonen (little boys).
And yet, there's the matter of medium. The TV show was condensed, though aimed at the same demographic. Different standards for different mediums.

Comics were aimed at the same demographic as most cartoons, but got away with a lot more. "Seduction of the Innocent" and all that. Standards chang from censor to censor and culture to culture. The most fair comparison, then, would be to compare the HnK anime to the DBZ anime, or the manga to the manga.

Just for the sake of as much possible consistancy.
That's a fair point, but if that's the standard you wanna go by, then just replace "the DBZ TV series" with "any of the 13 DBZ movies". Those were all released theatrically, same as the HnK movie.

The HnK movie still comes out looking fairly Hostel-esque in stark contrast to the comparatively lightweight (violence-wise) DBZ films.

And yet, I'd say even this comparison is a bit off.

To compare, consider the Batman films based on the hokey TV show rather than the Batman Begins film The Dark Knight based more off the comics.

Also, wasn't the movie rated for a higher age group than the TV series anyway?

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:59 pm