Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:45 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Well I am not as nice as Fox but if I was one of the executives and saw, some of the comments that was/is circulating about the movie, I would have done that very thing. Give the crappy cut to the other countries because I know it would be illegally recorded and circulated and then when it hit the States release the genuine article.

And that would achieve... what?

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:31 pm

Tsukento wrote: Regardless of where it's shown, it will STILL be recorded and shown on the internet. If there's a movie, it's been pirated. That's just how the internet is.

It's been going on long before the internet.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:42 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:How's that any different than the Dragon Ball Kai group:
It's widescreen. Well, let's wait until they release a trailer.

You're comparing a 15 second television spot to an actual movie release? O_o;;

Actually, as I remember it was (and is) "Let's wait until we see an episode. The ads (which include commercials) might not be representative of the final product." Which, funny enough, is what I said about FUNimation also.

It's cropped. Well it's selectively cropped, plus we've only seen 15 seconds. Let's wait until it's premiered for real. PS: fuck Funimation.

Yep. Fuck FUNimation, whom I admitted have improved their restoration process compared to the first releases.

It is definitely not impossible that the American release may end up being longer or having alternate scenes. Stuff like this happens all the time. Here is a semi relevant example. Wasn't one of the Budokai games released here, but the Japanese version had additional characters and content?

Well, the problem is that a.) games already require localization, giving developers time to program such extras and b.) the process of localizing typically takes months. Much different than a film being released one place, then another 4 weeks later.

Plus, the MPAA has already rated the film, which means what is done is done. The film was finalized before 2/18/09, as the MPAA would have to see the final cut to make their rating. Any changes would mean another submission, which is cost prohibitive and time-consuming.

-Corey

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:11 pm

Hey guys, I have no idea what the topic is but I thought I’d stop by and post an article + glamor shots I found of Emmy Rossum:

http://men.style.com/details/features/l ... ntent_8417

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:17 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:Hey guys, I have no idea what the topic is but I thought I’d stop by and post an article + glamor shots I found of Emmy Rossum:

http://men.style.com/details/features/l ... ntent_8417

I think the movie would be much, much better if it was her that made out with Jaime Chung instead of Chatwin ;p

-Corey

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:22 pm

James Marsters interview:

DR: But there is a hell of a lot of plot to compress into a single movie.

JM: There’s five to seven films in there! But we’re counting on making many films. Dragonball Evolution is Goku becoming a man. We took a story where the main hero is seven years old and the bad guys are midgets, and we pumped it up, so it’s more like Dragon Ball Z.

DR: How have you translated Dragon Ball’s kinetic, cartoon action to the big screen?

JM Quicker cuts and a sense of raw power. Subtlety’s out of the window! I think the US audience is toned for it. Film has been following anime for long enough, after all; this kind of visual language is in the Matrix movies.

DR: What was your experience of working with director James Wong?

JM: Fabulous man. We went to Durango and there was a six week hurricane, and it was called Dragonball Evolution. There are so many elements, I just thought, ‘how is anything getting done?’ And there was this Buddha-guru guy names Jim Wong in the middle of it. You can throw mountains at that guy! He’s unstoppable; so strong, so calm and so sure. When you are in the middle of one of these films it really is like a war. To have a rock steady hand like that is crucial. Maybe it was all an act? He’s a very calm man, but yea, I guess there is a little bit of chaos behind him.

DR: You saw Dragonball Evolution for the first time a couple of days ago. Was it the film that you thought it would be?

JM: they say there’s the film that’s written, the film that’s shot and the film that’s edited. And if it’s not an improvement on the script then you shouldn’t be paid. I think we did that. I wouldn’t say we had conflict, but we had good artistic back-and-forth, and I ultimately did what I was told. A lot of people have seen Dragonball now and have loved it. Everyone from the grips to the makeup department.

DR: So what liberties have you taken with Lord Piccolo?

JM: In the cartoon, Lord Piccolo is this old, wizened man. He looks like he is 95 years old and he’s green. He looks like a wart. He’s got so many wrinkles and he walks with a stick. He’s this crone figure in a big hood. But Piccolo is younger than that in our film, he’s more powerful than that, but he’s still old and in some ways decrepit. His transformation is something we’re going to save until later.

From a magazine
http://www.blackfishpublishing.com/content/view/112/1/

snaku · Post by **snaku** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:30 pm

JAPPO wrote: JM: they say there’s the film that’s written, the film that’s shot and the film that’s edited. And if it’s not an improvement on the script then you shouldn’t be paid. I think we did that.

Given the quality of the script, that made me giggle.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:32 pm

Piccolo Daimao had a walking stick and a hood?

No wonder he thinks he's done a good job, he has no idea who he's talking about...

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:34 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:Piccolo Daimao had a walking stick and a hood?

No wonder he thinks he's done a good job, he has no idea who he's talking about...

Uh what? Yes he did have a walking stick.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:35 pm

JAPPO wrote:
MisterFlashdude wrote:Piccolo Daimao had a walking stick and a hood?

No wonder he thinks he's done a good job, he has no idea who he's talking about...
Uh what? Yes he did have a walking stick.

No, he didn't. Maybe you're thinking about Kami.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:38 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:
JAPPO wrote:
MisterFlashdude wrote:Piccolo Daimao had a walking stick and a hood?

No wonder he thinks he's done a good job, he has no idea who he's talking about...
Uh what? Yes he did have a walking stick.
No, he didn't. Maybe you're thinking about Kami.

I can't find a pic, but I remember when in the airship with Mai and Pilaf he had a walking stick.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:42 pm

JAPPO wrote:I can't find a pic, but I remember when in the airship with Mai and Pilaf he had a walking stick.

To make sure I'm not bullshitting, I pulled the appropriate volumes off the shelf. Double checked, just for you. No walking stick.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:45 pm

I could have swore he did. Ah well no biggie.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:45 pm

Maybe it was anime filler?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:47 pm

Pain wrote:Maybe it was anime filler?

I'm thinking this too because I swear I can picture a walking staff also.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:49 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Pain wrote:Maybe it was anime filler?
I'm thinking this too because I swear I can picture a walking staff also.

Yep, it was definitely present in the anime. Although I never saw him use it.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:59 pm

I think you guys are remembering Kami, he had the staff... but if it's some random anime filler, maybe I'm wrong. I can only say for sure that Daimao has neither a hood nor walking stick in the manga.

In other news, DBE's wikipedia page finally decided there was a review worth citing, and it's pretty harsh.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:02 pm

ANN wrote:a bunch of talentless hacks with studio money slapped together a big steaming pile of baffling garbage that fails utterly on every possible level and will please no one at all.

You know how the review will go from after that.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:07 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:I think you guys are remembering Kami, he had the staff... but if it's some random anime filler, maybe I'm wrong. I can only say for sure that Daimao has neither a hood nor walking stick in the manga.

In other news, DBE's wikipedia page finally decided there was a review worth citing, and it's pretty harsh.

They'd obviously choose that one.I'd rather hear one from IGN or actual movie critics.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:12 pm

Pain wrote:They'd obviously choose that one.I'd rather hear one from IGN or actual movie critics.

Well, obviously IGN hasn't made one... and a legitimate site with a history of reviewing anime/manga material with all the credentials of anyone less than Ebert's thumbs has... So, maybe it's worth a modicum of consideration...