Kai Episode 1 (05 April 2009)

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:08 pm

ShinRogafuken wrote:Is there a false rumor going around that DBKai is going to end at the Freeza Saga?

Several people have commented on my DBKai Episode 1 Review over at YouTube saying this.

First I've heard of it. Maybe people are getting the wrong idea out of the "roughly 100 episodes" rumor (the Saiyan/Freeza arcs added up to a little over 100 episodes).

Hao_Kaiser · Post by **Hao_Kaiser** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:22 pm

ShinRogafuken wrote:Is there a false rumor going around that DBKai is going to end at the Freeza Saga?

Several people have commented on my DBKai Episode 1 Review over at YouTube saying this.

I've heard the same thing... But I've also heard that Kai is supposedly going to be around 100 episodes long.

Isn't the Freeza saga about that length already? If you take out all of the filler, then surely...

At any rate, I don't think anything concrete has been stated yet, so, we'll just have to wait and see.

I could see them ending at Cell, though. I can't see them getting all three sagas into 100 episodes, no matter how quickly they fly through it. It would be a pacing nightmare.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:29 pm

I wonder if anyone will consider the re-interpretation of "5 minutes" a "pacing nightmare" or not...

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:30 pm

They said approximately it could be more.
Considering the first Kai episode was about two episodes worth of Z plus recap, cutting 291 to 100+ seems plausible

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:32 pm

Rod wrote:They said approximately it could be more.
Considering the first Kai episode was about two episodes worth of Z plus recap, cutting 291 to 100+ seems plausible

Not to mention completely cutting out Garlic Junior and the Anoyoichi Budokai. Plus entire filler episodes, like "Goku and Piccolo Learn to Drive" and "Gohan Meets a Robot".

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:34 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Rod wrote:They said approximately it could be more.
Considering the first Kai episode was about two episodes worth of Z plus recap, cutting 291 to 100+ seems plausible
Not to mention completely cutting out Garlic Junior and the Anoyoichi Budokai. Plus entire filler episodes, like "Goku and Piccolo Learn to Drive" and "Gohan Meets a Robot".

In b4 "I love those episodes, don't take them out!"

SSJ Helldog · Post by **SSJ Helldog** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:36 pm

... and let's not forget the Pseudo-Namek arc!

Honestly, between cutting down the Freeza fight and just removing all of the angry stares/grunting before fights, I think 100 episodes sounds about right. We'll have a better idea of the plausability of this scenario as soon as we see what they do to the actual fights.

Zenkai Power · Post by **Zenkai Power** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:41 pm

ShinRogafuken wrote:Is there a false rumor going around that DBKai is going to end at the Freeza Saga?

Several people have commented on my DBKai Episode 1 Review over at YouTube saying this.

I don't think there is any evidence of this at all. Just rumors. I'd prefer that it didn't? lol.

SSJ Helldog · Post by **SSJ Helldog** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:53 pm

Zenkai Power wrote:
ShinRogafuken wrote:Is there a false rumor going around that DBKai is going to end at the Freeza Saga?

Several people have commented on my DBKai Episode 1 Review over at YouTube saying this.
I don't think there is any evidence of this at all. Just rumors. I'd prefer that it didn't? lol.

I think most of these rumors spun out of the current promotional materials, as well as OP and ED centering around characters who appear in the Saiyan/Freeza arcs. But I'm guessing that's just because those are the current threats. No point in showing off Cell this early in the game, especially when it's being marketed at kids who have probably never seen the show.

Did anyone get any HQ captures of the commercials/promos that aired with episode 1? I want to catalogue them for memory's sake.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:01 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Rod wrote:They said approximately it could be more.
Considering the first Kai episode was about two episodes worth of Z plus recap, cutting 291 to 100+ seems plausible
Not to mention completely cutting out Garlic Junior and the Anoyoichi Budokai. Plus entire filler episodes, like "Goku and Piccolo Learn to Drive" and "Gohan Meets a Robot".

True, also the power-ups which last a very long time, in the manga last only a few panels

SSJ2bardock wrote:In b4 "I love those episodes, don't take them out!"

I have never loved fillers, but those are very funny

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:02 pm

If it won't end by Boo Saga, I will be really pissed of

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:14 pm

MCDaveG wrote:If it won't end by Boo Saga, I will be really pissed of

You could just stop watching it after Cell if you don't like Boo. It'd be a waste to get pissed when you can spend time enjoy stuff you like instead.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:21 pm

Kendamu wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:If it won't end by Boo Saga, I will be really pissed of
You could just stop watching it after Cell if you don't like Boo. It'd be a waste to get pissed when you can spend time enjoy stuff you like instead.

No, you didn't understood me))) I will be pissed if it will end after freeza or cell saga, I wanna all Dragon Ball like in manga, from begining to end. Boo is one of my favorite

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:26 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:If it won't end by Boo Saga, I will be really pissed of
You could just stop watching it after Cell if you don't like Boo. It'd be a waste to get pissed when you can spend time enjoy stuff you like instead.
No, you didn't understood me))) I will be pissed if it will end after freeza or cell saga, I wanna all Dragon Ball like in manga, from begining to end. Boo is one of my favorite

Oh! I understand now.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:41 pm

Kendamu wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:
Kendamu wrote: You could just stop watching it after Cell if you don't like Boo. It'd be a waste to get pissed when you can spend time enjoy stuff you like instead.
No, you didn't understood me))) I will be pissed if it will end after freeza or cell saga, I wanna all Dragon Ball like in manga, from begining to end. Boo is one of my favorite
Oh! I understand now.

That's one of the few perils of my non-native english maybe

Undercooked Sausage · Post by **Undercooked Sausage** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:51 pm

Fairly certain that there is no promotional work beyond Freeza Saga because of two reasons.

1). They haven't prepared that footage yet or gotten in contact with people like Norio Wakamoto to see if they can reprise their roles. The Cell Saga probably wouldn't start until 30 or so episodes in and that is probably half a year away.

2). Due to the poor performance of Dragonball GT. It's natural that Toei has a bit of hesitation on airing a new Dragonball program(especially one that is essentially just a rerun of DBZ) and is waiting to see how the Freeza/Saiyan arc performs before pushing forward.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:03 pm

Undercooked Sausage wrote:Fairly certain that there is no promotional work beyond Freeza Saga because of two reasons.

1). They haven't prepared that footage yet or gotten in contact with people like Norio Wakamoto to see if they can reprise their roles. The Cell Saga probably wouldn't start until 30 or so episodes in and that is probably half a year away.

2). Due to the poor performance of Dragonball GT. It's natural that Toei has a bit of hesitation on airing a new Dragonball program(especially one that is essentially just a rerun of DBZ) and is waiting to see how the Freeza/Saiyan arc performs before pushing forward.

Or even a combination of the two, they haven't made it because they don't know if it's worth the trouble yet

Or is that what you meant?

Scarz · Post by **Scarz** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:51 pm

As always, I'm late to the party. I just finished watch the first episode of Dragonball Kai and I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. I like the opening and the ending credits and I was pleased that some of the filler scenes where cut out. But I don't see what was the big whoop over it. Really it sort feels like a game: "Which part will edit out next? What other weewee's will they censor?"

I also noticed Lunch in the ending credits. A nice friendly reminder that she wasn't even seen after Dragonball. "Hey remember Lunch! We do! To bad she's not in this. That sucks, right?"

Still, I haven't watched the first season of DBZ in almost 7 years. So I can't but feel this over whelming feeling of nostalgia. It's just like popping in the bootleg dub all over again, with the few fillers scenes automatically skipped for me.

DBW · Post by **DBW** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:25 pm

Scarz wrote:I also noticed Lunch in the ending credits. A nice friendly reminder that she wasn't even seen after Dragonball.

I've noticed people mention this several times now, but she actually was in the ending to DBZ, right up to episode 199.

She also had numerous scenes in DBZ, but I'm sure you were just being sarcastic.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:47 pm

I dunno. There are still people who don't realise "your father was a brilliant scientist" was in FUNi's original dub only. It's entirely likely people don't realise Lunch made multiple appearances in Z.