Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

B · Post by B » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:44 pm

Tenshinhan-san wrote:These actors have proven not to be good enough to play their manga counterparts

I don't see how this is possible when they haven't been playing manga counterparts. They were portraying characters created by James Wong and Ben Ramsey that were meant to vaguely resemble the manga counterparts.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:46 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Yeah, I was under the impression that they got nothing from the dub. Also, I'm very curious of where this "Yamcha is a surfer in the dub" idea came from. Maybe Ocean group? Honestly, I've watched the dub many times and aside from Yamcha saying bro a couple of times in Z, I would have never pegged him as a surfer.

It's most notable in season 3. He has an incredibly stereotypical surfer dude accent but he quickly looses it in the android arc.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:40 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
Yeah, I was under the impression that they got nothing from the dub. Also, I'm very curious of where this "Yamcha is a surfer in the dub" idea came from. Maybe Ocean group? Honestly, I've watched the dub many times and aside from Yamcha saying bro a couple of times in Z, I would have never pegged him as a surfer.
It's most notable in season 3. He has an incredibly stereotypical surfer dude accent but he quickly looses it in the android arc.

Well, I think Joon Park's Yamcha voice would've worked IF they got somebody else to play Yamcha. The reason it was so bad was that how Joon Park looked at Yamcha didn't fit the surfer voice.

Shenron · Post by **Shenron** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:20 pm

I've just watched it.

It was great !

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:25 pm

omegacwa wrote:...Personally, I liked Yamcha in the movie a lot, he seemed very likable to me.. The only thing being he is too old. Also he didn't fight. I mean if he at least had a minute long battle with Goku where he does the Roga Fu fu ken, I would have been happy. I actually have no feelings for Yamcha in the Manga/Anime, I personally don't care for him at all and he is down there with Chaozu for character I care about the least, yet I thought he was cool in the movie...

If Vegeta and Nappa arrives in the sequel, perhaps Yamcha will begin training at that training compound with all the other human fighters in preparation for the battle. I wonder will only Vegeta and Nappa will be the only foes or somehow Freeza shows up (chasing Nappa and Vegeta) and they all gang up on him…:shock: here is a thought what if Vegeta and “Goku” go Super Saiyan at the same moment and the battle turn out to be something that resembles animated Movie #6.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:32 pm

Chatwin said, the sequel has more "fighters"... Krillin, no doubt.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:40 pm

JAPPO wrote:Chatwin said, the sequel has more "fighters"... Krillin, no doubt.

I can see them introducing another powerful fighter. Krillin was introduced in the second saga of the series. It fits in a convoluted, grossly overlapping way. I can see it being set at a tournament with Piccolo, Krillin, and Chi-Chi... Maybe that's when they're interrupted by Radditz.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:43 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Chatwin said, the sequel has more "fighters"... Krillin, no doubt.
I can see them introducing another powerful fighter. Krillin was introduced in the second saga of the series. It fits in a convoluted, grossly overlapping way. I can see it being set at a tournament with Piccolo, Krillin, and Chi-Chi... Maybe that's when they're interrupted by Radditz.

I think JAPPO said a while back that Raditz was not going to be in the sequel.

Tenshinhan-san · Post by **Tenshinhan-san** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:44 pm

That didn't make a bit of sense.

That it didn't make sense to you says more about you than about me.

This is your personal opinion only, not fact.
I think the actors did ok, with a better script and direction they could have been good. Do you understand how much the writing and directing really matter? Seems like you don't.

Whatever makes you feel comfortable. A bad script doesn't make you a bad actor. BAD ACTING makes you a BAD ACTOR.

I don't see how this is possible when they haven't been playing manga counterparts. They were portraying characters created by James Wong and Ben Ramsey that were meant to vaguely resemble the manga counterparts.

You have a point, but I was rather pointing out how weak the acting was in general. You can't blame a bad script and bad directing for plain terrible acting. Otherwise any random idiot would be able to be a great actor given a great script and director.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:18 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Chatwin said, the sequel has more "fighters"... Krillin, no doubt.
I can see them introducing another powerful fighter. Krillin was introduced in the second saga of the series. It fits in a convoluted, grossly overlapping way. I can see it being set at a tournament with Piccolo, Krillin, and Chi-Chi... Maybe that's when they're interrupted by Radditz.
I think JAPPO said a while back that Raditz was not going to be in the sequel.

That was when Piccolo told Goku he was a Saiyan (it was in the script, video game, etc.) Now that they cut that out of the movie (the theatrical version at least) I don't know.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:21 pm

JAPPO wrote:That was when Piccolo told Goku he was a Saiyan (it was in the script, video game, etc.) Now that they cut that out of the movie (the theatrical version at least) I don't know.

Dontcha just LOVE how they kept everything in sync?

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:22 pm

Tenshinhan-san wrote:You have a point, but I was rather pointing out how weak the acting was in general. You can't blame a bad script and bad directing for plain terrible acting. Otherwise any random idiot would be able to be a great actor given a great script and director.

Well let me point out this much. I don't entirely disagree with you (though I don't think they were all bad). But these people weren't the ones cutting the paychecks. They were working under supervision. Someone (Wong) told them how he wanted a scene to come out, let them take a crack at it, and then decided if that's what he wanted. And most of the cast has flexed notable acting chops in other works. What's the common denominator here? Shitty direction = shitty movie.

As for how one could have hopes for a decent sequal- I've seen it before. the live-action Guyver is a baaaad movie, and it's sequal is decent (if you can accept the Guyver with a Kamen Rider flair). It helps that Guyver 1 is played by Solid Snake in the sequal. I'd personally add the X-Men movies. The first X-Men doesn't suck as a film, but as a fan it really doesn't do it for me anymore. The second movie is one of my favorite comic movies. Much improved over its predecessor. So, stranger things have happened. My main problem with this movie, in so far as a sequal is concerned, is that there's barely anything to grow on. Did that feel like a complete movie to anyone? So little was explained and it felt incredibly short.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:58 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:That was when Piccolo told Goku he was a Saiyan (it was in the script, video game, etc.) Now that they cut that out of the movie (the theatrical version at least) I don't know.
Dontcha just LOVE how they kept everything in sync?

That's pretty bad for a company to differ their releases so much. People who aren't fans of the series could get seriously confused. Anything else that was 'excluded' from the film?

Then again, maybe they are just using this as an 'extended cut' for a DVD release.....

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:09 pm

jda95 wrote:Then again, maybe they are just using this as an 'extended cut' for a DVD release.....

You know, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:04 pm

I say Rob Pattinson of Twilight fame is going to play Vegeta.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:15 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I say Rob Pattinson of Twilight fame is going to play Vegeta.

http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu14 ... dNappa.png

Hmmmm......

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:18 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I say Rob Pattinson of Twilight fame is going to play Vegeta.

Considering my hatred for both Twilight and Vegeta...

MAKE IT HAPPEN FOX.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:19 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I say Rob Pattinson of Twilight fame is going to play Vegeta.

Really, he'd just have to change the word "actor" on his pink shirt to "man", and he'd look perfect for the role.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:55 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I say Rob Pattinson of Twilight fame is going to play Vegeta.
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu14 ... dNappa.png

Hmmmm......

I think that would work,

even though I wanted jet-Li to play Vegeta in the sequel.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:58 pm

For Vegeta, what about the guy who played Lex Luthor in Smallville? Just a thought I had.

And if they somehow DID get Goldberg for Nappa...this movie would already have my $9.50.