Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:55 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Budokai23 wrote:Actually it's only 2 million away from breaking its profit.
The budget was $45 million? Sorry, I thought I had read $50 million.

-Corey

I remember reading 50 million on here somewhere as well. So what was the budget?

Yaay!!! 200 pages…

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:57 pm

Jappo's site says $45 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/03/30/budget ... /#comments

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 pm

I'm not big on budgets, but I'm guessing advertising is included in that figure?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:59 pm

Chuquita wrote:Jappo's site says $45 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/03/30/budget ... /#comments

Err, an article posted after that says $50 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/04/08/sequel-greenlit/

And it cites a source for the figure as well.

-Corey

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:00 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote: This “Goku” is not brain damaged and what you expect from a teenage kid that feels different but does not exactly know who or what he is and has a grandfather figure that prevents him from being himself because of how unique he is in comparison to other teenagers. Because he has to withdraw and is different his peers appears to make fun of him and he cannot get the attention of the girl he likes. That is a lot to deal with so of course he wants to be “normal”. Yet as was mentioned earlier when he found out who he really was and received the attention he wanted from Chi-Chi he stopped thinking that way and embraced his destiny. To me that shows progression of his character. Apparently, you walked into the theatre looking for faults and you let a line that many feel “bastardized Goku” prevent you from seeing the growth of the character.

Oh believe me, I don't think my expectations could have been any lower upon entering that theater and I wasn't even trying to compare it to the original since there's hardly any basis for comparison. I judged it as a stand alone film and it was still pretty much a piece of crap. I don't know what you call "growth" but throughout the film we get next to no insight on Chatku's motivations or conflicts, either that or it was just so poorly acted that I couldn't even pick up on it. This pretty much applies to all the other characters as well, there was no real reasoning behind anything they did and none of the connections between them felt even remotely real.

Then again, I don't really think a film like this really merits that level of scrutiny. The creators themselves didn't seem to expect much.

Yeah, yeah and then there is the thought that you are not the only one that is going through certain things. That you are not the one that is different or cursed by the gods or however one looks at it. Everyone throws the word “emo” around but there is a reason why those kids hang together.

Personally, when I am upset, I do not want some annoying idiotic clown up in my face grinning ear to ear. I want to know that I am not the only one that is going through whatever it is I am going through and that others have been through it and made it out. Telling me it is going to be okay when that person’s life is perfect is easy when they never had to go through some things.

I don't think this really addresses anything I said, but yeah, I can totally respect that you'd rather watch something that relates more to your own experience of life. I was just stating that those "happy-go-lucky" shows relate to my experience of life just fine and probably to plenty of other people as well. Besides, sometimes extraordinary people are more entertaining than the average joe, in fact, most of the time they are.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:00 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Budokai23 wrote:Actually it's only 2 million away from breaking its profit.
The budget was $45 million? Sorry, I thought I had read $50 million.

-Corey

They've grossed $43m. But doesn't the fact that its 'gross' mean that it'll still have to be taxed?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:04 pm

Kid Trunks wrote:They've grossed $43m. But doesn't the fact that its 'gross' mean that it'll still have to be taxed?

I'm not sure how tax law applies to film productions, but gross receipts does mean the total before diminished by any deductions.

-Corey

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:06 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Jappo's site says $45 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/03/30/budget ... /#comments
Err, an article posted after that says $50 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/04/08/sequel-greenlit/

And it cites a source for the figure as well.

-Corey

Ah. *Nods* So it is $50.

I skimmed the main page too fast. ^^;

In that case, according to Box Office Mojo ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm ), they're still $6,882,505 from breaking even. O_O

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:09 pm

Chuquita wrote:Ah. *Nods* So it is $50.

I skimmed the main page too fast. ^^;

In that case, according to Box Office Mojo ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm ), they're still $6,882,505 from breaking even. O_O

Yep. And judging by the theatrical take dwindling with each passing day, unless they have one final surge this weekend they'll be completely banking on the home release. It's not impossible, but it's seeming like a stretch.

-Corey

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:10 pm

Chuquita wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Jappo's site says $45 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/03/30/budget ... /#comments
Err, an article posted after that says $50 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/04/08/sequel-greenlit/

And it cites a source for the figure as well.

-Corey

Ah. *Nods* So it is $50.

I skimmed the main page too fast. ^^;

In that case, according to Box Office Mojo ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm ), they're still $6,882,505 from breaking even. O_O

They'll get there.

KKZ · Post by **KKZ** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:16 pm

If anyone's worried about Fox not reaching their budget, I was at Wal-Mart today and this guy bought all of the DB:E and GI Joes they had. Online toy salesman maybe? Whatever he may have been that probably helps, how much do you think Fox benefits from that (There were about 30 DB:E figures)?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:17 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:People are all different; in light of the nature and spirit of the shows and movies, here in America the majority seems to like the “emo/angst” stuff.
Evolution's box office results beg to differ.

Twilight's box office results beg to differ.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:17 pm

ShinRogafuken wrote:
Chuquita wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote: Err, an article posted after that says $50 million: http://dbthemovie.com/2009/04/08/sequel-greenlit/

And it cites a source for the figure as well.

-Corey

Ah. *Nods* So it is $50.

I skimmed the main page too fast. ^^;

In that case, according to Box Office Mojo ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm ), they're still $6,882,505 from breaking even. O_O
They'll get there.

I am sure Fox will figure out something in the end to go ahead and make sequel.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:18 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Ah. *Nods* So it is $50.

I skimmed the main page too fast. ^^;

In that case, according to Box Office Mojo ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm ), they're still $6,882,505 from breaking even. O_O
Yep. And judging by the theatrical take dwindling with each passing day, unless they have one final surge this weekend they'll be completely banking on the home release. It's not impossible, but it's seeming like a stretch.

-Corey

I agree. Its especially much of a stretch with Wolverine coming out in a couple weeks. That really only gives them less than a two week time frame before a movie from a similar genre (that of the comic book/manga turned live action) comes out to compete against them. I genuinely don't know if they can make almost $7 million in two weeks.

Wolverine's got so many ads too.....they've even got a pizza deal!

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:20 pm

I don't see how they'll convince people to see a sequel. The only reason anyone went to see Evolution was out of morbid curiosity. If they try and advertise a sequel people in Japan will be like "Pff....Yeah right. Fool me once..."

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:23 pm

I hope it does break even at least. But does kind of feel like its lost most of it's momentum already.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:34 pm

Do DVD sales factor into revenue? Can they make a sequel based on ticket + home release sales if they exceed budget costs?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:36 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Do DVD sales factor into revenue? Can they make a sequel based on ticket + home release sales if they exceed budget costs?

They do, but you also have to factor DVD/Blu-ray production and advertising into the deal which puts the "net profit" goal further out of reach.

-Corey

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:41 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Do DVD sales factor into revenue? Can they make a sequel based on ticket + home release sales if they exceed budget costs?
They do, but you also have to factor DVD/Blu-ray production and advertising into the deal which puts the "net profit" goal further out of reach.

-Corey

Well the margin is probably smaller. But seeing as how it's so close as is I don't think that it's impossible at this point to break even or even make a very small profit.

I'm going to bet they make a $13.28 profit on this movie.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:19 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Do DVD sales factor into revenue? Can they make a sequel based on ticket + home release sales if they exceed budget costs?
They do, but you also have to factor DVD/Blu-ray production and advertising into the deal which puts the "net profit" goal further out of reach.

-Corey
Well the margin is probably smaller. But seeing as how it's so close as is I don't think that it's impossible at this point to break even or even make a very small profit.

I'm going to bet they make a $13.28 profit on this movie.

Wow. That's specific

I hope your right though.