Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:02 pm

Just for the record, Goku didn't STAY a clueless mountain boy, even in the manga...

He grew up, learned the difference between boys and girls and what they did with each other, had a family, and used Capsules and spaceships and all kinds of modern facilities and amenities just like a normal person, and all that jazz. Just because he continued to live in the mountains and preferred training himself over most other pastimes doesn't mean he's still so obtusely naive.

But it's as if some folks aren't happy unless movie-Goku, who is obviously meant to be a little older and a little wiser, isn't a perpetual clueless copy of his chapter 1 self.

Tenshinhan-san · Post by **Tenshinhan-san** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:08 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8NtVoutAaw

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Tenshinhan-san wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8NtVoutAaw

Watching that while "Godzilla" by Blue Oyster Cult plays is like, the greatest thing ever.

Lpfreak · Post by **Lpfreak** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:50 am

Just watched it this afternoon. I Gotta say, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Though I absolutely dreaded Yamcha's atrocious dialogue...

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:01 am

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!

I actually like Magic Begins and often do the Roshi Dance at random moments, but I am just saying it can be easily ignored as I am sure still over 50% of the DB community probably doesn't know it exists.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:37 am

omegacwa wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!
I actually like Magic Begins and often do the Roshi Dance at random moments, but I am just saying it can be easily ignored as I am sure still over 50% of the DB community probably doesn't know it exists.

To be fair, I'm fairly sure a good 50% of the DB community in the United States knows that the Japanese version exists.

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:50 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I actually like Magic Begins and often do the Roshi Dance at random moments, but I am just saying it can be easily ignored as I am sure still over 50% of the DB community probably doesn't know it exists.
To be fair, I'm fairly sure a good 50% of the DB community in the United States knows that the Japanese version exists.

... And? They weren't talking about the Japanese version. They were talking about the other DB live action movie.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:01 am

SaiyamanMS wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I actually like Magic Begins and often do the Roshi Dance at random moments, but I am just saying it can be easily ignored as I am sure still over 50% of the DB community probably doesn't know it exists.
To be fair, I'm fairly sure a good 50% of the DB community in the United States knows that the Japanese version exists.
... And? They weren't talking about the Japanese version. They were talking about the other DB live action movie.

You know, the good one. Well, the "so bad it's good" one.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:06 am

SaiyamanMS wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I actually like Magic Begins and often do the Roshi Dance at random moments, but I am just saying it can be easily ignored as I am sure still over 50% of the DB community probably doesn't know it exists.
To be fair, I'm fairly sure a good 50% of the DB community in the United States knows that the Japanese version exists.
... And? They weren't talking about the Japanese version. They were talking about the other DB live action movie.

I'm just sayin'. The majority of the "fan community" for Dragon Ball tends to be ignorant. Less so as it became less popular, but still.

It wasn't really a "point", exactly. Just that I don't think the knowledge of your average DBZ fan is going to be worth much. =p

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:19 am

omegacwa wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!
I actually like Magic Begins

Me too, I'm still waiting for the unofficial sequel.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:07 pm

Just saw the movie yesturday, and I had a lot of fun, I really enjoyed it. I only have two real big complaints(everything else I could live with), Marsters didn't have enough screen time and the movie was two fast pace.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:18 pm

Tenshinhan-san wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
omegacwa wrote:forgotten just like The Magic Begins.
You're kidding right? There's no way that movie will EVER be forgotten.

Long live Dancing Roshi!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8NtVoutAaw

That was actually pretty good, I'd consider it pretty faithful.

Hero 004 · Post by **Hero 004** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:49 pm

The Magic Begins, although it used different names, still seemed like some kind of Dragon Ball, or at least a bad attempt at mimicking Dragon Ball. It will be remembered because people will be able to compare and contrast it with the anime, no matter how ridiculous some parts are.
Dragon Ball Evolution is very unmemorable to me, because it's so UN-Dragon Ball, it's the opposite of The Magic Begins where it used the names but created something almost completely different. That's why I don't feel any emotion about how it lived up, because it didn't even try to make it any form of Dragon Ball. Every time they had to opportunity, they took a different direction and created, in my opinion, a very un-entertaining and forgettable movie.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:52 pm

What was the villain they used from the Manga for The Magic Begins?

Oh wait...

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:53 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:What was the villain they used from the Manga for The Magic Begins?

Oh wait...

However they did use two of the Henchman from movie number 1.

Hero 004 · Post by **Hero 004** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:04 pm

The fact that Evolution tried to properly use an already existing villain from the manga and still ended up failing doesn't give points to The Magic Begins, but just denotes Evolution further.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:09 pm

Creating an original villain is just as bad as change the main characters, for example Goku or Bulma, for another characters. Plus not using an already existing villain from the Manga and still ended up failing is much worse than use one and ended like DBE did.

Hero 004 · Post by **Hero 004** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:13 pm

Yeah, the original villain took a lot from TMB, but Piccolo didn't add a lot to Evolution, we didn't even get a fleshed out back story or any kinds of motives, plus he was in the movie for such a short amount of time.
The villain in TMB still seemed more Dragon Ball to me than DBE's Piccolo, and the one from The Magic Begins wasn't very Dragon Ball at all. That's what I think is so pathetic.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:34 pm

Have anyone ever thought that Piccolo’s background would be explored in the sequel in addition to him having more screen time?

Tenshinhan-san · Post by **Tenshinhan-san** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:00 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:What was the villain they used from the Manga for The Magic Begins?

I think it was Carey Fuller and Agundas