What is Z mode in Budokai 3?

[VegettoEX]

Very nice way to get the "Z" difficulty:

- Options >> Set the difficulty on "Very Easy"
- Dragon Universe >> select Uub
- Fight your way up to the third/last fight (against Goku out in the southern plains)
- Save, exit before going into that last fight
- Options >> Set the difficulty on "Very Hard"
- Dragon Universe >> select Uub
- Finish off the DU, beating Goku

Beware... it'll be pretty hard. I went into Arena and got Uub up to around level 35 before even bothering. Goku has no problem with SSJ4 Super Dragon Fist. It's a pretty even match. Uub's Ki Blast is especially nice with its range... if you level-up your "Attack" it'll be even better.

So you beat it, and after you make your wish with the DBs and the ending credits, you get the "Goku's Wish" capsule (which *is* the new "Z" difficulty). Next up is "Z2"...!

[Deus ex Machina]

I had already been considering the idea of exiting DU, then increasing the diificulty to the hardest level just before the final battle...but you used Oob? I had a difficult time with his DU on Very Easy as it is! I think Yamcha would be a better choice.

[Kodoshin]

Maybe it's just me, but something seems wrong about unlocking a higher difficulty level by essentially cheating

Anyway, it's not that hard to beat DU on Very Hard in a legit fashion, I finished Goku's by using a strategy revolving around the Heart Virus/Vaccine capsules and defensive capsules.

[Deus ex Machina]

The viral heart disease/vaccine combo isn't any better than the other strategy; you still have an unfair advantage over your opponent.

[Kodoshin]

Explain to me how a capsule that you obtain in the game thats an expected part of the gameplay (Even some of the Dragon Arena CPU's use it as far as I know) is cheating? It certainly has it's drawbacks:

A) The combo alone takes up 3 inventory slots, something that turning down the difficulty does not do.

B) If you are struck while using the vaccine item you dont get a second chance at using it and so your in just as much trouble as your foe.

C) By your logic using a character with a configuration other than the "normal" configuration is unfair since items like Mysterious Vest will make you more damage resistent than any armor your opponents (on lower difficulties anyway) will be wearing.

I guess it comes down to personal opinion, but I fail to see how using items put in the game that isn't a gamebreaking thing like invinciblity is cheating.

[Deus ex Machina]

It's quite simple; your strategy isn't based around skill or ability, but exploiting an ability that would give you a much greater chance at winning, essentially because the CPU has no way of countering the heart disease, even if he does stop you from using the antidote. The trick of changing the difficulty setting isn't any better, but it's not worse either.

[Kodoshin]

Making use of an abilty that is part of the game, and thus can be incorporated into the strategy of a good keep-away defensive player. For what advantage it does give me I'm paying my 3 inventory slots and following the rules of the game.

If the creators of the game felt the abilty was unfair to use in the Dragon Universe mode they would of made it something you could not use in it, like they did with the fusion capsules which can only be used in specific battles and not the entire mode.

EDIT: Back to the topic of Z-mode for a second, I just did the first fight of Z-3 mode and it took me 4 tries to get past it, but the thing that was most shocking - During all of those (Drawn out) fights, Raditz did not one time use Dragon Rush. So this might actually be *the* way to play for Dragon Rush haters.

[Cloud_Graywords]

Sorry about the double post.
now about get the Z dificult. I beat all DU in VH. its only because its more challenge for me