Gohan fan art of awesomeness

[TheAmericanDream]

He was referring to Gohan's "Ultimate Gohan" power-up in the Boo arc, which he gets by sitting in front of the Old Kaioshin for hours on end as the Old Kaioshin unlocks his hidden potential or something.

Nice drawing BTW.[/quote]


Thanks, yea I agree the Ultimate powerup was a bit random, but at that point honestly, the series didn't make much sense. I dislike the Boo arc a good deal on the whole, it was kinda like the author throwing Gohan fans a bone.

[Taku128]

I haven't really seen any valid arguements against him in the Cell arc,

How about that he spends the entire Cell Games whining about how he doesn't want to fight? Even after he becomes a Super Saiyan 2 (because some random android got killed?), he gives up and tells Cell to just kill him and everybody else so they can all go be with his dad.

Way to be the hero, Gohan.

You have to remember he's eight years old (nine if you count the year in the RoSaT) at the time and he was forced into fighting by those around him. At that point nobody else in the series had been forced to fight at that age. I think it's reasonable for an eight/nine year old to not want the weight of the world on his sholders.

[Saiyavenger2941]

I usually won't back-up pre-High school Gohan, but in this case, I will.

For one, he's a pacifist. Those usually try to avoid fighting, y'know.

Two, if someone you truly cared about died, you'd probably wanna die too, right?

Eh, fuck it. I figure, since I'm far lower in post count, my opinion is far insignificant compared to yours. So, whatever.

Let's all just shut the fuck up and enjoy the art.

[TheAmericanDream]

He walks in weaker than Freeza. He walks out stronger than anything in the universe, with the possible exceptions of Cell and Dabura. Vegeta and Trunks go in twice and don't even match Goku.[quote} Rocketman

My only answer is, he's Gohan. Right off the bat him being Super Saiyan one I wanna believe would be as powerful as Vegeta and Goku starting out. He trained with Goku making Super Saiyan their regular state, I know it's a lot to swallow, but Goku is such a genius and Gohan is so talented he created someone beyond his own equal in one year. Lol it sounds crazy, but I don't think it's that insane, since he was already borderline Super Saiyan before going in, factoring in his anger bursts he was bound to get at least as good as Goku. You just kinda have to believe that last half year was spent making him that good, I think it's not random because of Gohan's potential shown earlier in the Saiyan arc spiking his power and Goku taught him how to truly tap into it. I think this conversation may be splitting hairs since there's a lot of transformations that don't make that much sense, but given the circumstance and the foreshadowing Gohan's is one of the better ones I think in the series. (other one's being like Piccolo super namek, they foreshadowed him and kami refusing so much earlier, despite how weak kami is I didn't have trouble believing his huge rise in power)

How about that he spends the entire Cell Games whining about how he doesn't want to fight? Even after he becomes a Super Saiyan 2 (because some random android got killed?), he gives up and tells Cell to just kill him and everybody else so they can all go be with his dad.
Way to be the hero, Gohan. {quote}Rocketman

He's like 10...I think people need to seriously realize he is not a hero, but he has to be the hero. Like it's not in his nature to hurt people or even fight. He does want to protect his friends though, I remember being pissed about Tenshinhan dying cause Gohan wouldn't help but he was 5...I think he deserves some slack.


He's never the hero until the Cell Games. He spends the whole of the Android Saga chilling out in the background and he's not even in the group fight vs 18 and 17.

Rocketman

That's not what I meant exactly, it's that in the Saiyan arc you get this feeling that he's gonna save them all one day, he definitely was integral to them winning, but he wasn't ready yet. I think the Cell games ties that story line up. Like it or not, I am only trying to say, it was intended from the start for Gohan to take on at least somewhat of an unlikely unwanted hero role from his introduction and that it was well foreshadowed ahead of time.

I have to ask out of curiosity now, did you just find the Cell games arc with Gohan a bit jarring or odd? Or do you just dislike Gohan as a main character? or felt it could have at least been done better? Or don't like that it's such a well received and overrated point of the show? Just want to know I guess. (That last reason is a reason I was very anti Future Trunks for a long time)

[TheAmericanDream]

I usually won't back-up pre-High school Gohan, but in this case, I will.

For one, he's a pacifist. Those usually try to avoid fighting, y'know.

Two, if someone you truly cared about died, you'd probably wanna die too, right?

Eh, fuck it. I figure, since I'm far lower in post count, my opinion is far insignificant compared to yours. So, whatever.

Let's all just shut the fuck up and enjoy the art.

God thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to share this picture cause I really like super saiyan 2 Gohan and I know for a fact a lot of other DBZ fans do too... and of course I love debate but I don't want it to be a straight on Gohan bash fest. I really do think spitting on that Gohan is like spitting on the whole Cell arc. It's the climax of all of Z in my opinion. Man I have to say dude though, stick to your guns! It's still Gohan...I dunno if Videl would have gone for him if he didn't beat Cell. But yea. the art, that's what I wanted at least half the responses to be about not how much Gohan suxors. It's still funny to me since I love Piccolo, Ten and Kuri a lot more and just wanted to show off how cool Gohan looks wearing that. What Post counts makes for power levels? I guess that mean's I am not even worth 1 half a Raditz yet.

[Rocketman]

Eh, fuck it. I figure, since I'm far lower in post count, my opinion is far insignificant compared to yours. So, whatever

The hell? Have I given any indication that I care what your post count is?

For one, he's a pacifist. Those usually try to avoid fighting, y'know.

He's a pacifist since when? He was barreling off into fights for most of the series.

Two, if someone you truly cared about died, you'd probably wanna die too, right?

Not to the point that I want the entire world to die with me.

You have to remember he's eight years old (nine if you count the year in the RoSaT) at the time and he was forced into fighting by those around him. At that point nobody else in the series had been forced to fight at that age. I think it's reasonable for an eight/nine year old to not want the weight of the world on his sholders.

Then why is he being forced on us as the hero? Why are we supposed to be happy that the Earth is in the hands of a whining, sniveling little boy?

I know it's a lot to swallow, but Goku is such a genius and Gohan is so talented he created someone beyond his own equal in one year.

Vegeta is stated to be a fighting genius by Goku. He works out the whole "Full Power SSJ" thing and explains it to Trunks. Then both of them get a whole extra year to train, and they're still weaker than Goku? Even Trunks, who has the magical half-Saiyan blood?

He's like 10...

See above.

I have to ask out of curiosity now, did you just find the Cell games arc with Gohan a bit jarring or odd? Or do you just dislike Gohan as a main character? or felt it could have at least been done better? Or don't like that it's such a well received and overrated point of the show? Just want to know I guess. (That last reason is a reason I was very anti Future Trunks for a long time)

I find it jarring because it basically comes out of nowhere. Gohan was a lesser character for nearly the entirety of the series - equal to the humans vs the Saiyans, equal of Krillin on Namek, did nothing during the Android Saga - and then BAM he's the strongest guy in the universe after six months of training! The only one who can do it! Earth's last hope! aaand....he's whining to the bad guy about how he doesn't want to fight. Great.

As a main character, I don't know. I actually liked the high school/Great Saiyaman stuff. And if he'd actually trained during the seven years, I probably wouldn't hate the Mystic powerup so much. As it is....it's just bullshit. Goku and Vegeta trained their asses off for the past seven years, but they get outmatched by Gohan sitting on his ass for seven years and 24 hours?

Done better, definitely. Cut out SSJ2 Gohan giving up and needing Daddy to hold his widdle hand and the whole sequence becomes a lot more tolerable. Cutting out Random Android's death pushing Gohan to SSJ2 while Trunks' death just pushes Vegeta to getting his arm broken/dislocated would be appreciated too.

I'm not totally against Gohan being reluctant to fight. But being reluctant to fight after your father and one friend is killed and another is crippled?

I do think the Cell Games are overrated, but that mostly stems from my Gohan-hatin'. I just honestly do not see why people think it's a good thing Gohan is left in charge of protecting Earth.

Also I disagree with the 'it's the climax of DBZ' view, as I think the Goku vs Freeza fight is much better suited for that role - the hero confronting the bad guy responsible for everything previous.

[Taku128]

You have to remember he's eight years old (nine if you count the year in the RoSaT) at the time and he was forced into fighting by those around him. At that point nobody else in the series had been forced to fight at that age. I think it's reasonable for an eight/nine year old to not want the weight of the world on his sholders.

Then why is he being forced on us as the hero? Why are we supposed to be happy that the Earth is in the hands of a whining, sniveling little boy?

One of the reasons you think Goku is an asshole: He forced Gohan into it.

[TheAmericanDream]

I think the freeza arc ties up a lot of stuff, but the Android arc was sorta extra, showing the characters that aren't goku off and giving them all a chance to shine. (even tenshinhan for a blink) Gohan I think was meant as a plot twist but It didn't entirely come out of nowheres lol. I think it does wrap up that loose end. When I look at the series as a whole, I do wish Gohan did more in the earlier android arc so he didn't become forgotten during that Vegeta Trunks Piccolo fest. But I still see it as finishing what was started way back with Raditz that continued on during with Freeza, I mean Gohan was a big reason Freeza went to his final form, regardless of Freeza's bluffing. Yea you know, I always wished Cell died almost immediately after Lv2, it was awesome, but then he gets cocky...like EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER almost. But... In reality power goes to peoples heads, that's reality, but I don't that arc is perfect, but I do like the idea of the mantle being passed on even if Gohan isn't fit for the role. I'll honestly take anyone other then Goku at that point. I also think no 16's death was the final push, it's not like the cell jr fight didn't do most of the work for him. I think if Kuririn or Yamcha died first or Goku he would have definitely gone level 2. But I think 16 was done so that no one important had to die honestly.

[TheAmericanDream]

Then why is he being forced on us as the hero? Why are we supposed to be happy that the Earth is in the hands of a whining, sniveling little boy?[/quote]One of the reasons you think Goku is an asshole: He forced Gohan into it.[/quote]

Goku is a pretty messed up parent. Lol so many of these convos only lead back to me liking all the Saiyan arc and first half of Dragonball Far more then anything after it. (save for Ginyu and Android/Cell arc)

Goku just gets lame in the later stuff, he's just such a bad father and parent, and its so blatant we are supposed to admire and love this guy still? I think Gohan really did the best he could in dbz. I love SSJ2 Gohan despite his flaws.

[jjgp1112]

I hope you aren't referring to the Room of Spirit and Time

He walks in weaker than Freeza. He walks out stronger than anything in the universe, with the possible exceptions of Cell and Dabura. Vegeta and Trunks go in twice and don't even match Goku.

Call the waambulance. Seriously, how does that justify hating Gohan. That just proves how awesome he is.

And from reading your other posts here, it seems like you're taking a lot of things way to personal. Calm down. And please, lets not derail this thread further. Let's just keep it as a Gohan fanart thread.

[Innagadadavida]

I hope you aren't referring to the Room of Spirit and Time

He walks in weaker than Freeza. He walks out stronger than anything in the universe, with the possible exceptions of Cell and Dabura. Vegeta and Trunks go in twice and don't even match Goku.

Call the waambulance. Seriously, how does that justify hating Gohan. That just proves how awesome he is.

If anything it proves how half-baked and uninspired the Cell saga is.

[Rocketman]

Call the waambulance.

I can't. Gohan's got their lines tied up.

[jjgp1112]

All of the whining you do about Gohan every chance you get makes Gohan look level headed in comparison.

Anyway, PLEASE, let's get this back on topic.

[Kaboom]

Call the waambulance.

I can't. Gohan's got their lines tied up.

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled fanart thread.

[NeptuneKai]

Call the waambulance.

I can't. Gohan's got their lines tied up.

HA HA OH WOW!


I actually don't mind Gohan...just his fanbase.

[Saiyavenger2941]

I actually don't mind Gohan...just his fanbase.

Ouch, dude. Ouch.

[NeptuneKai]

I actually don't mind Gohan...just his fanbase.

Ouch, dude. Ouch.

Ha ha sorry, to be more specific Cell saga Gohan's fanbase. It seems like it suffers from Brolly syndrome. "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM! *FAP FAP FAP FAP* "

[Saiyavenger2941]

I actually don't mind Gohan...just his fanbase.

Ouch, dude. Ouch.

Ha ha sorry, to be more specific Cell saga Gohan's fanbase. It seems like it suffers from Brolly syndrome. "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM! *FAP FAP FAP FAP* "

Ah, I got ya now. Ouchness removed. (You know me. Highschool/Adult Gohan fanboy here.)

And yeah, Broly fans... Good god. Their (along with the yaoi fangirls who can't comprehend the concept of "canon") removal would only be a beautiful example of natural selection.

[jjgp1112]

I actually don't mind Gohan...just his fanbase.

Ouch, dude. Ouch.

Ha ha sorry, to be more specific Cell saga Gohan's fanbase. It seems like it suffers from Brolly syndrome. "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM! *FAP FAP FAP FAP* "

I feel sad now

[TheAmericanDream]

Ouch, dude. Ouch.

Ha ha sorry, to be more specific Cell saga Gohan's fanbase. It seems like it suffers from Brolly syndrome. "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM! *FAP FAP FAP FAP* "

I feel sad now

lol Whatev's Gohan's awesome! Ignore the haters. SSJ2's cool, it's that simple. I think you can't compare any Gohan to Brolly. Who I also like, even though he's a brainless monster. I always felt bad for the guy all he really has is his rage.