Striking Similarities 100 Years Into The Future!

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:33 pm

I was in the mood to watch the last episode of DBGT again so I get up to the Goku Jr. VS Vegeta Jr. match and then it accurse to me. This is the Goten and Trunks match that happened 100 years earlier... Well, not entirely shot for shot but take a look at this...

And perhaps this is a stretch but...

This had to be done on purpose. This actually makes me like this match even more now. Was this ever brought up before? Thoughts?

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:35 pm

That's surreal.

Nice little salute there, Toei.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:38 pm

Chuquita wrote:That's surreal.
Nice little salute there, Toei.

Agreed. Nice catch, Kuribo.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:52 pm

Thats a really neat catch. I love little things like that.

Twinbee_Mk_II · Post by **Twinbee_Mk_II** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:59 pm

Glad I wasn't the only one to notice. Isn't it cool? People really don't give Toei enough credit. Sure they stumble occassionaly but compared to the good they do, it can't even register.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:13 pm

Is this good?!

Just show how Toei does not have imagination at all and basically screwed up the fight between two already shitty characters.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:22 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Is this good?! Just show how Toei does not have imagination at all and basically screwed up the fight between two already shitty characters.

I have to disagree given the mood of the ending I think that this was appropriate. It demonstrates that things have not changed so much post time skip and the new generation is carrying on the flame.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:25 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:Is this good?! Just show how Toei does not have imagination at all and basically screwed up the fight between two already shitty characters.
I have to disagree given the mood of the ending I think that this was appropriate. It demonstrates that things have not changed so much post time skip and the new generation is carrying on the flame.

Guess not only that did not changed but the audience too.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:51 pm

I realized this years ago, and thought that everyone had noiced this.

I even made a musicvideo that compared those two fights.

Funny thing is that that old guy that looked at them either got younger in the future, or it's his son/grandson that we see glaring.

I think that either it was a reference to that the Saiya-jin spirit never dies, or that they just were lazy and reused the fight, hoping that noone would realize.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:55 pm

Wojak wrote:I realized this years ago, and thought that everyone had noiced this.
I even made a musicvideo that compared those two fights.

Funny thing is that that old guy that looked at them either got younger in the future, or it's his son/grandson that we see glaring.

I think that either it was a reference to that the Saiya-jin spirit never dies, or that they just were lazy and reused the fight, hoping that noone would realize.

I think they're paying homage. Saying that Vegeta and Son's lineage are still going at it.

VenomSymbiote · Post by **VenomSymbiote** » Sun May 03, 2009 10:25 pm

I think it was intentional. It was done nicley too.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sun May 03, 2009 10:34 pm

I don't think there's any doubt it was intentional. 'Can't really be a coincidence.
But was it laziness? Was it meant to be noticed by the viewers? Both?

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Wed May 06, 2009 10:25 pm

neat little find, I'm not sure if I should praise this as being homage to DBZ or scorn toei for being lazy...either way this is interesting. However I dont know how many times Iv said this but I hate the coloring job toei did with GT it looks crappy and washed out.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed May 06, 2009 10:27 pm

I think this is just another case of Toei digging through old DB/DBZ episodes in order to find something to recycle.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Fri May 08, 2009 2:23 pm

To just happen to use this footage down the same line of descendants, with each side playing the same side with the same framing? It may have started as "let's just find something" but it definitely became a bit of a homage.

Ramoro-san · Post by **Ramoro-san** » Fri May 08, 2009 4:56 pm

That's way cool. I have to admit I've never caught on to that. I agree with those who feel it's unmistakeably an homage. It seems they were trying to bring the series to a very sentimental close by drawing parallels between the descendents and their forefathers. I love sentimentality. *Sighs*

So heartwarming.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri May 08, 2009 5:47 pm

Vegeta and Goku Jr. are more defined in the muscle department then Kid Trunks and Son Goten. That says a lot, the descendents that are far removed from the pure Saiyan blood take their training more seriously than those that were half Saiyan. I wonder does the Super Saiyan gene show up every so many generations now.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Fri May 08, 2009 6:48 pm

I think the muscle thing is only because the animation itself has been tweeked. If you look, the faces, eye shape, and generally everything has been more stylized. I wouldn't say that it is a sign of anything more than a different art style. Like the Dragon Ball: Path to Power movie. Goku looks a lot more streamlined and developed than in the beginning of the Dragon Ball series even though it's supposed to be the same character at the same time and pretty much the same story...even though it wasn't.

Coola Yagami · Post by **Coola Yagami** » Fri May 08, 2009 7:45 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I think the muscle thing is only because the animation itself has been tweeked. If you look, the faces, eye shape, and generally everything has been more stylized. I wouldn't say that it is a sign of anything more than a different art style. Like the Dragon Ball: Path to Power movie. Goku looks a lot more streamlined and developed than in the beginning of the Dragon Ball series even though it's supposed to be the same character at the same time and pretty much the same story...even though it wasn't.

Well that's cause they basically drew him as GT Goku, wearing the GT outfit and all.....

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Fri May 08, 2009 8:51 pm

And Yamcha?

The art style is just different.