Future DragonBall Kai Intro Question...

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:21 pm

This question is pretty much towards Wasted Wisher. I would usually just PM someone with a question but I'am sure people here would like to know this as well.

So, I assume each saga will get it's own intro animation... right?

So the question is, will the intro song change as well? Or will it be more like Cha-La Head Cha-La where the song was the same but there were minor animation differences. Thanks!

Coola Yagami · Post by **Coola Yagami** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:38 pm

It's all up in the air now. They might keep Dragon Soul and edit out the Goku/Vegeta parts with Goku/Freeza parts but I'd rather they get a brand new theme for the Android/Cell arc.

SylentEcho · Post by **SylentEcho** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:30 pm

I think they will make one more song. There are hardly going to be 120 episodes, so I don't think they'll make more than 2 themes.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:51 pm

Well, GT was 64 episodes and it went through how many ending animations?

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:02 pm

SylentEcho wrote:I think they will make one more song. There are hardly going to be 120 episodes, so I don't think they'll make more than 2 themes.

I always wondered why Dragon Ball was so stingy with changing its openings and closings. It's not as though it was a low budget production, it's fucking Dragon Ball, and I don't think it's got anything to do with age, either (Since Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku regularly shifted things around). Ah, well.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:39 pm

Oh I hope so; getting new animation is so rare; I'd be thrilled to get a new OP and ED per arc. (They don't even have to change the music if they don't want to. I'd like new music too, but I want new animation even more.)

Danjoan · Post by **Danjoan** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:46 pm

Well while Kai obviously doesn't work like a lot of other anime, there is a good chance every 26 episodes or so we'll get a new opening theme, and maybe even more ending themes (every 13 episodes would be good, or something close to it).

I'm pretty hopeful when it comes to this even if it's just new animation and the same song(s) or vice versa. This is one of the main reasons I looked forward to Kai in the first place. /shallow?

I don't see why they couldn't pump out a little more for new songs and animation, considering their dedication to this (or lack thereof, according to some).

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:51 pm

They probably will make one because Cell and Majin Buu are missing from the opening and closing. So is Freezer and The Ginyu Special Corps, well sort of.

ssjcj · Post by **ssjcj** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:37 am

One Piece has about 10 openings with 400 episodes, 40 episodes an opening. By that logic, I would say it is highly likely that we would get one or two openings for Kai.

Wasted Wisher · Post by **Wasted Wisher** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:14 pm

Most likely, if the series goes on to the Android/Cell arcs, they'll want to make a new intro, and a new one for the Buu arc. But first we have to actually get that far.

Based on how fast Kai is progressing, I'm guessing (and this is just completely off the top of my head here) that Kai will wrap up the Freeza arc at around episodes 48 to 52.

If the ratings are good, Kai will continue onwards, and new intros will most likely come with it.

Kai_fan · Post by **Kai_fan** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:31 am

I know networks have to take that kind of stance "just in case," but the actual likelihood of Kai being cancelled before the end of the series has to be something like 100-to-1 doesn't it?

The ratings have been phenomenal for what the show is, especially relative to the cost of production. Kai is beating all kinds of first-run shows.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:51 am

Kai_fan wrote:I know networks have to take that kind of stance "just in case," but the actual likelihood of Kai being cancelled before the end of the series has to be something like 100-to-1 doesn't it?

The ratings have been phenomenal for what the show is, especially relative to the cost of production. Kai is beating all kinds of first-run shows.

Even if ratings meet Toei's expectations now, which is pure speculation on our parts anyway, interest and ratings could easily drop in the next 30-odd episodes.

I don't think Toei will cancel the show, but I wouldn't consider it impossible or unthinkable.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:00 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Even if ratings meet Toei's expectations now, which is pure speculation on our parts anyway, interest and ratings could easily drop in the next 30-odd episodes.

I don't think Toei will cancel the show, but I wouldn't consider it impossible or unthinkable.

I think you might be right, which is unfortunate for me, but you'd probably love it if Kai stopped.

Kai is unfortunately, the new GT. a Dragon Ball everyone Loves to hate, so I wouldn't be surprised if it befell the same fate.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:05 pm

DemonRin wrote:Kai is unfortunately, the new GT. a Dragon Ball everyone Loves to hate, so I wouldn't be surprised if it befell the same fate.

Why is it unfortunate? Why should someone not express their disgust with a product if they genuinely don't like it?

Furthermore, have you actually compiled any statistics to prove that the majority of people do not like Kai?

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:10 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Why is it unfortunate? Why should someone not express their disgust with a product if they genuinely don't like it?

Furthermore, have you actually compiled any statistics to prove that the majority of people do not like Kai?

It's a situation that really speaks for itself.
Nobody but a handful of people that includes myself ever has anything good to say about the series, and when people do say something that's not negative it's something along the lines of "Well, they didn't Screw up THAT MUCH this episode" or something like it.

I'm just sad that the Less Filler-ful version of Z I've been wanting for so bad is probably gonna get canceled Early like GT is all

I mean, I could say the same thing. Why is it bad that there are those of us who like it and wouldn't like to see it Canceled?

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:44 pm

DemonRin wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Why is it unfortunate? Why should someone not express their disgust with a product if they genuinely don't like it?

Furthermore, have you actually compiled any statistics to prove that the majority of people do not like Kai?
It's a situation that really speaks for itself.

No, it's a situation that you think speaks for itself. I already tackled your baseless accusations in another thread where you were spouting this same crap, and I'm getting pretty tired of seeing it.

Unless you have some kind of credible statistics that prove that an overwhelming majority of the show's general audience--in other words, just not a choice few people who happen to visit this and other internet forums--then you have absolutely no basis for your claims. Stop trying to make yourself out as some kind of sentient supporter of the series who nobody else agrees with. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing to see.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:52 pm

DemonRin wrote: I think you might be right, which is unfortunate for me, but you'd probably love it if Kai stopped.

I don't care either way to be honest. I don't have a burning hatred for Kai or anything. I'm just disappointed that it didn't turn out nearly as well as I expected. So really, whether it's canceled or it goes on, I'm fairly apathetic...it's a curiosity. I do kind of hope it improves by the Namek arc, because that's the part of the series with pacing that kills me.

Even if Kai doesn't improve in my eyes, anybody else is free to like it all they want.

Kai is unfortunately, the new GT. a Dragon Ball everyone Loves to hate, so I wouldn't be surprised if it befell the same fate.

I'm actually fairly fond of GT myself. It's not the best Dragon Ball has to offer, but it's fun for what it is and it's overall better than most of the DB movies. But that's off-topic.

But this is somewhat off-topic.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:42 pm

Tweaker wrote:
DemonRin wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Why is it unfortunate? Why should someone not express their disgust with a product if they genuinely don't like it?

Furthermore, have you actually compiled any statistics to prove that the majority of people do not like Kai?
It's a situation that really speaks for itself.
No, it's a situation that you think speaks for itself. I already tackled your baseless accusations in another thread where you were spouting this same crap, and I'm getting pretty tired of seeing it.

Unless you have some kind of credible statistics that prove that an overwhelming majority of the show's general audience--in other words, just not a choice few people who happen to visit this and other internet forums--then you have absolutely no basis for your claims. Stop trying to make yourself out as some kind of sentient supporter of the series who nobody else agrees with. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing to see.

Barely anyone does agree with me...
I'd like to make a Poll about how many people actually like Kai, but I can't seem to make Polls at all... I tried to make one in the "Dragon Ball Questions" thread, and got nowhere...

The fact of the matter does stand though that everybody (here at least) besides a handful of people hates Kai to some extent and I have been called things like Hypocrite for liking Kai.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Wed May 20, 2009 6:01 pm

DemonRin wrote:The fact of the matter does stand though that everybody (here at least) besides a handful of people hates Kai to some extent and I have been called things like Hypocrite for liking Kai.

Ignoring everything else you've said, it seems pretty strange that you seem to think people "hate" Kai through and through with no additional explanation.

Personally, I don't "hate" Kai. It didn't murder my (unborn) children, it didn't point out my personal flaws, it didn't insult my wife, and it hasn't (as far as I'm aware) made any anti-Semitic remarks (gotta look out for Julian, of course).

Does my saying I dislike parts of its music and pacing come across as "hate"? Do you think you're perhaps reading into things too much just to justify your own position? Near as I can tell, Tweaker's called you out dead-on.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed May 20, 2009 6:04 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Ignoring everything else you've said, it seems pretty strange that you seem to think people "hate" Kai through and through with no additional explanation.

Personally, I don't "hate" Kai. It didn't murder my (unborn) children, it didn't point out my personal flaws, it didn't insult my wife, and it hasn't (as far as I'm aware) made any anti-Semitic remarks (gotta look out for Julian, of course).

Does my saying I dislike parts of its music and pacing come across as "hate"? Do you think you're perhaps reading into things too much just to justify your own position? Near as I can tell, Tweaker's called you out dead-on.

When people refer to watching the show as "Watching a Trainwreck", what am I supposed to think?
And I DID say "To some extent", I even bolded it.

I might be reading too much into it, I've just been called a hypocrite so many times it's really just... I guess I just know how GT fans feel now is all