Dragon Ball Z: Season 9 Discussion

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun May 24, 2009 8:01 pm

DemonRin wrote:And the Japanese version is in fact on the Orange Bricks, with Steve Simmons' Awesome subtitles for those of you who need them

Yeah, but I think MCDaveG was referring to the audio on the R2's being better quality that FUNimation's copies. Which is true, though I'm sure the audio has improved as the seasons have progressed due to being less aged.

-Corey

Smooth Criminal · Post by **Smooth Criminal** » Mon May 25, 2009 2:26 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
DemonRin wrote:And the Japanese version is in fact on the Orange Bricks, with Steve Simmons' Awesome subtitles for those of you who need them
Yeah, but I think MCDaveG was referring to the audio on the R2's being better quality that FUNimation's copies. Which is true, though I'm sure the audio has improved as the seasons have progressed due to being less aged.

-Corey

Not like it matters very much.

Either way, it's mono sound and would be almost intolerable if not for the tremendous quality of the voice acting.

There's really no way to spin this. It sounds terrible, and it always will. We'll have to just deal with it or accept Kai as a suitable replacement... (I don't).

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:48 am

Smooth Criminal wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
DemonRin wrote:And the Japanese version is in fact on the Orange Bricks, with Steve Simmons' Awesome subtitles for those of you who need them
Yeah, but I think MCDaveG was referring to the audio on the R2's being better quality that FUNimation's copies. Which is true, though I'm sure the audio has improved as the seasons have progressed due to being less aged.

-Corey
Not like it matters very much.

Either way, it's mono sound and would be almost intolerable if not for the tremendous quality of the voice acting.

There's really no way to spin this. It sounds terrible, and it always will. We'll have to just deal with it or accept Kai as a suitable replacement... (I don't).

Or stop bitching and realise that you're watching a show which is about 20 years old now. Yes, the audio quality sucks, big suprise, it's not intolerable, I've been watching Funi's Japanese audio track for years, and guess how many problems I've had with it.
None.
The DragonBox's audio isn't that much of an improvement, just sounds a little clearer that's all. It's not as if the quality suddenly boosts to 5.1 Digital Dolby on the DragonBox. I guess it's because the show is old.

KillerCory · Post by **KillerCory** » Mon May 25, 2009 9:59 am

Maybe it is just me...

But the quality of the Japanese track seems better on the DB DVDs than on these season sets.

Going through DB right now so I know what the quality sounds like...normally I have volume turned up a bit but for the DBZ Season sets I have to turn the volume up a lot higher.

Smooth Criminal · Post by **Smooth Criminal** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:45 pm

Rory wrote: Yes, the audio quality sucks...

I'm glad we agree. I'll just assume the rest of your post is applauding me for my keen observation skills. Thanks.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:56 pm

That's also one of the reasons I love Kai.

It's Actually STEREO!!

Glorious.
That's one part about Kai NOBODY can argue isn't an improvement Over Z.
The Audio is mixed in Stereo, and sounds wonderful (NOT talking about whether you like the Music or the new Voice acting, talking SOLELY about Mixing and Stereo Vs Mono)

Krakabeast · Post by **Krakabeast** » Mon May 25, 2009 8:33 pm

Big Momma wrote:I never realized how huge Boo is in that form. Does it ever say how tall he is there?

He's even taller than Ox King in that form.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:15 pm

Krakabeast wrote:
Big Momma wrote:I never realized how huge Boo is in that form. Does it ever say how tall he is there?
He's even taller than Ox King in that form.

It really caught me off-guard seeing him towering over Piccolo! 0_o

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:34 pm

Smooth Criminal wrote:
Not like it matters very much.

Either way, it's mono sound and would be almost intolerable if not for the tremendous quality of the voice acting.

There's really no way to spin this. It sounds terrible, and it always will. We'll have to just deal with it or accept Kai as a suitable replacement... (I don't).

I agree with your comment.

The Orange Brick is encoded at 96kbps compared to the Dragon Box 384kbps. Even in mono, there is a difference in fidelity. But, the difference is very minute, it just sounds louder to put in plain English.

Of course, either way you look at it. The cartoon is very old, unless they recreate the audio mix from scratch, we will all have to deal with Mono for the Japanese track. At least I have the original BGM on original CDs'. Kai's new music sounds too much like a video game for my tastes. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:55 pm

Krycek7o2 wrote:
Smooth Criminal wrote:
Not like it matters very much.

Either way, it's mono sound and would be almost intolerable if not for the tremendous quality of the voice acting.

There's really no way to spin this. It sounds terrible, and it always will. We'll have to just deal with it or accept Kai as a suitable replacement... (I don't).
I agree with your comment.

The Orange Brick is encoded at 96kbps compared to the Dragon Box 384kbps. Even in mono, there is a difference in fidelity. But, the difference is very minute, it just sounds louder to put in plain English.

Of course, either way you look at it. The cartoon is very old, unless they recreate the audio mix from scratch, we will all have to deal with Mono for the Japanese track. At least I have the original BGM on original CDs'. Kai's new music sounds too much like a video game for my tastes. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Yeah, but whatever you think about the Music aside, Kai sounds a lot better than Z in terms of pure Quality and Mixing.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue May 26, 2009 4:07 am

Yeah, but whatever you think about the Music aside, Kai sounds a lot better than Z in terms of pure Quality and Mixing.

What a surprise, Z is 20 years old and Kai is nowadays))))
Anyway, everybody here was bitching about, like I said, the sound on Dragon Box is better then on Funi. Yes, that sound is better, but that sound still isn't awesome because of its age...... My actual problem is with picture in older sagas sets and that cropping, Japanese sound track isn't problem for me

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue May 26, 2009 4:09 am

SonGokuGT wrote:
Krakabeast wrote:
Big Momma wrote:I never realized how huge Boo is in that form. Does it ever say how tall he is there?
He's even taller than Ox King in that form.
It really caught me off-guard seeing him towering over Piccolo! 0_o

This never made me ''WTF?'' like hugeness of King Cold

GotenZ1 · Post by **GotenZ1** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:18 pm

Not even sure if this comment should go here, but in regards to the DragonBall DVDs, I always wished FUNi would have put the Japanese track in stereo. Since FUNi used the original music and sound effects for their English dub (and mixed it in Stereo) I always figured they could just lift the Japanese dialogue and put it over that...with a little bit of clean up. That's just my 2 cents.

As far as Season 9 goes, I am so happy that it's all out now. I am curious how long until FUNi starts re-releasing them on Blu-ray-because you know they will (and from a business point, should).

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:52 pm

They could probably only do that if they were given a separate voice track, as opposed to a pre-mixed track.

SereneCrimson · Post by **SereneCrimson** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:19 pm

GotenZ1 wrote: I am curious how long until FUNi starts re-releasing them on Blu-ray-because you know they will (and from a business point, should).

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an announcement soon.
Considering the entire series is out on regular DVD, They'll probably be shifting to Blu-Ray very soon.

I would say that by the end of the year, It'd be safe to think Season 1 on Blu-Ray will be out

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:43 pm

Does anybody have the video on youtube of the Death of Kid Buu with the english dub and Japanese BGM?

Michie · Post by **Michie** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:29 am

I have been trying to find the moment this happens:

She and all the other residents of Penguin Village make an appearance in the second portion of the Dragon Ball series "Dragon Ball Z" during the Kid Buu Saga, giving their energy to Goku's Super Genki-Dama.

so i can make screen caps of it, but now i'm starting to think it's not on the dvds.
Is there someone who can confirm this scene?

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:57 am

Michie wrote:I have been trying to find the moment this happens:

She and all the other residents of Penguin Village make an appearance in the second portion of the Dragon Ball series "Dragon Ball Z" during the Kid Buu Saga, giving their energy to Goku's Super Genki-Dama.
so i can make screen caps of it, but now i'm starting to think it's not on the dvds.
Is there someone who can confirm this scene?

I've never even heard of that scene.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri May 29, 2009 12:11 pm

Michie wrote:so i can make screen caps of it, but now i'm starting to think it's not on the dvds.
Is there someone who can confirm this scene?

I don't have Season Nine yet, but I do have the appropriate Kid Buu single DVD. I'll check for it later.

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:19 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
Michie wrote:I have been trying to find the moment this happens:

She and all the other residents of Penguin Village make an appearance in the second portion of the Dragon Ball series "Dragon Ball Z" during the Kid Buu Saga, giving their energy to Goku's Super Genki-Dama.
so i can make screen caps of it, but now i'm starting to think it's not on the dvds.
Is there someone who can confirm this scene?
I've never even heard of that scene.

I know forsure its in there. Android 8 and everything.