The different animation styles in the DBZ series

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:57 pm

JBoogie wrote:
DBHighDefinition wrote:
JBoogie wrote:Me and my friend talk about this. That's my only complaint about the series. They draw it best for important parts. I hate when the transformations are drawn really nice, but the fights following those are drawn badly half the time.
You've...just N-Posted something that was nearly 3 years old...
You did too.

No, because you were the one who bumped this 3 year old thread back to the start of page 1.

Mosaic · Post by **Mosaic** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:47 am

The Dragon Ball Z anime actually rotated between 6 animators until episode 68.

Afterwards better animators joined the staff, like the "New Type" one posted earlier.

Toei series are infamous for changing artstyles... just look at Sailor Moon or an earlier series.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:56 am

Six and one are my favorites... less "ULTRA SERIOUS" Son Goku, more lighthearted Goku from the original series.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:11 pm

Stylistically the Saiyan saga Son Gokû is actually very consistent. I noticed, actually, that the designs and fluidity of the animation some times recalled the old Superman serials, at least for me.

Mosaic · Post by **Mosaic** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:51 pm

And in the long run how Goku has evolved...

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:59 pm

I really prefer the 23rd Budokai-Early DBZ Goku.

Y'know, before he started the estrogen injections and grew enormous tits.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:00 pm

I found this spanish website that describe some of the different animators.

http://dragonballmp.net/Animacion.php

so far the best they described is Kazuya Hisada, most famous as the good animation that does these unique turns or talking animations.

some of his episodes are when Vegeta admits that Goku is number 1 and also lets see. his episode I think started on 68 when Ginyu and Goku started fighting, even though according to the damiou website, its
Masahiro Shimanuki

http://www.xmission.com/~daimao/epsum68.htm

the last episode under that name is 93 when piccolo does his distraction attack on freeza so Goku can continue building up the genki dama

the name Kazuya Hisada animation look too much the same as Masahiro Shimanuki, the same head turns, animation, mouth movement. the way the faces look. I think he change his name I dont know. does anyone know about this????

I read the 2 artist one scene thread and kenisu3000 names for different studio threads.

I pretty much know which episodes have the pale cartoony type and the triangle crap one, evil eye, and new type

according to the damiou website and that spanish website. Bushou Ide and
Mitsuo Shindo did the evil eye animation that was in the death of vegeta by freeza episode. athough I wonder if the evil eye came back for the buu saga according to that spanish site. If it did, it look a lot different and better.

A little help guys, if you know about the whole different names and animation on the more better looking animation. The head turning type, sharp closer to toriyama styles. I'm interested in putting the dbz episodes in category.

another interesting note Katsumi Aoshima and Tomekichi Takeuchi were the closer to toriyama for the saiyian and namek arcs. after that they stop using them

here's the threads

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=6310

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

kenisu3000 if you out there, how and where you found the info for the different studio names. I only know the directors of those episodes, thats it.

also. I notice there are animation directors that were used only once or rarely in the series.

Katsuhiro Nakazuru was used for ep 44(freeza first appears) and 120 (trunks turn ssj kill freeza)

Takeo Ide was used once I think when vegeta turn ssj for the first time. ep 129.

also there was third closer to toriyama in the saiyian - after trunks before androids. his name is Minoru Maeda. his first episode is 7 when piccolo took gohan to his training place and when Goku learned the genkidama and got wished back, episode 21. and the famous ep 95 when Goku first turn SSJ. you guys should know him

Masaki Sato was another used once on ep 64, the vegeta vs recoom, clearly one of the best animated episodes I saw.

sorry to keep posting. I recently got into the different animation styles of Dragonball. Youtube been a great help in determine which is which style.

Naogi Yamamuro is also one of the "closer to toriyama" in the android/cell arc and buu. They have nice lines and sharpness but still hard to determine from the other one. I think there one where the characters are still closer to toriyama but the eyes are pupils are thicker and the heads a little squarish. one example is when Goku teleport Cell away from earth and dies".

do you guys notice that???

there also another bad team that drew the episode where cell and freeza team up on Goku in GT, the director is Noboru Koizumi. he did a few episodes in the buu. the one where old kai appeared.

I would love any help in any confirmations of the teams. thanks.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:07 pm

Ummmm. I don't know how to delete this posts, omega.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:22 pm

Hey, if the mod find this before I can find out how to delete the second and third post. I am so sorry for the inconvience. I got over excited over the talk of different animation styles that I kept finding out more and posting what I found. sorry.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:33 pm

You should just edit your posts instead of posting three consecutive times in one thread. Just letting you know before a mod says something.

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:51 pm

Rocketman wrote:I really prefer the 23rd Budokai-Early DBZ Goku.

Y'know, before he started the estrogen injections and grew enormous tits.

I agree, in fact, with respect to almost all of the characters. The designs were still really fresh but also a lot more solid and proportional that earlier on. It's the style I most closely try to emulate when drawing DB fanart.

The rotation between studios for the DB/Z episodes has always been of interest to me. Oh Shindou Pro, would it have been too much to ask for you to animate the whole thing (obviously yeah..but it would've been awesome).

Sometimes I wish they'd just reanimate the whole thing consistently but then I think of how they'd probably use the later, sharper Dragonball style and how a lot of my nostalgia for the series is rooted in the some of the shittier animation.

Commander_Red · Post by **Commander_Red** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:50 am

I can barely notice any difference between those first 7 episodes. It seems to me like any difference there is would just be the expression to suit the mood of the scene. Just in those shots I mean.

I take it Toriyama is very consistent between chapters in the manga? Some comparisons with manga/anime would be nice. I don't have much of the manga myself.

Mr. Announcer wrote: Sometimes I wish they'd just reanimate the whole thing consistently but then I think of how they'd probably use the later, sharper Dragonball style and how a lot of my nostalgia for the series is rooted in the some of the shittier animation.

I'm all for seeing some more of those gorgeous backgrounds like in the new special

B · Post by B » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:33 am

I like my young Gokus looking like this:

I like my older Gokus like this:

Generally, first style-young Goku and post-Cell saga older Goku.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:10 am

Actually they didnt rotate artist in any particular order. Uchiyama(pale cartoony type) did the first episode and Goku death at the 5th. Aoshima did 2 episodes in a role. the episode Gohan befriend a robot and the next when he befriend a dinosaur and yamacha baseball scenes. It was hard at first to determine the evil eye type from Aoshima(clostest to toriyama in the saiyan arc) but eventually you get it.

They did use the pale cartoony type almost twice in a row. with one episode in between.

pale cartoony type of was in 83, 85, and 149 and 151. one episode gap.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:39 pm

rzerox21xx wrote:Ummmm. I don't know how to delete this posts, omega.

No worries bro, just letting you know.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:08 pm

Yeah, sorry for bring this subject back, it's just well I watched season 8 boxset and I wrote down which animation team did what episode. Atleast the ones who I can identify. Other than the obvious Uchiyama and Ebizawa team or Pale cartoony type and triangle crap. Wow, in the later season it gets so much harder to tell especially what I call the Toriyamaish styles. The new type were easy to identify as well as this more blocky wide style that appeared in the end of the Cell games. Hisada or the Turn(when the character turn to face the other direction in a weird animation movement and also the way they talk. 3 animation teams did that throughout Z, Hisada is the one that did End of Freeza to Buu). I notice there were some new teams coming in in the middle of the Buu and well it harder to put the teams in categories.

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:10 pm

Mosaic wrote:And in the long run how Goku has evolved...

Sorry if I had to bring the thread back to life by means of Shen Long

I really like 2nd, 4th, and 6th images of Son Goku. I'm more of Cartoony type, Toriyama type and new guy type. Whoever did the Triangle type should be fired.

As for GT, it's really heard to identify them as they (episodes) are completely different animations as opposed to DBZ. I dont see any Triangle type in GT anymore...

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:47 pm

His pecs are huge!

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:28 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:His pecs are huge!

So is his neck!

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:31 pm

I think I liked Goku better when he wasn't a muscle-bound 50 year old man-child.