Young Jeezy song samples faulconer's DBZ Pikkon theme?

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Young Jeezy song samples faulconer's DBZ Pikkon theme?

Post by Budokai23 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:19 pm

This may have been discussed before but I came across this and it is kinda interesting. Also it says on wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNLb8OjfdU The song's call "U Know What It Is".
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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:07 pm

Now, if only a good rapper did a song over it. Like a Wu-Tang Clan member.
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Post by B » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:22 pm

Fuck, I'm at work... But I want to shit my pants at this.
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Post by Raki » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:40 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Now, if only a good rapper did a song over it. Like a Wu-Tang Clan member.
They would probably use the original score.
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Post by Big Boss » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:47 pm

Raki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Now, if only a good rapper did a song over it. Like a Wu-Tang Clan member.
They would probably use the original score.
Umm, no I don't think they would. :?

Wait, unless you're being sarcastic... :o

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:50 pm

Big Boss wrote:
Raki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Now, if only a good rapper did a song over it. Like a Wu-Tang Clan member.
They would probably use the original score.
Umm, no I don't think they would. :?

Wait, unless you're being sarcastic... :o
No, he's right. RZA's more into orchestretic type stuff. And DBZ's anime and influenced by Kung-Fu clips, so RZA would be all over it if he could afford to sample Japanese DBZ stuff.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:01 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Big Boss wrote:
Raki wrote:They would probably use the original score.
Umm, no I don't think they would. :?

Wait, unless you're being sarcastic... :o
No, he's right. RZA's more into orchestretic type stuff. And DBZ's anime and influenced by Kung-Fu clips, so RZA would be all over it if he could afford to sample Japanese DBZ stuff.
The RZA is too busy making music for Afro Samurai anyways.
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Post by Pain » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:02 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Big Boss wrote: Umm, no I don't think they would. :?

Wait, unless you're being sarcastic... :o
No, he's right. RZA's more into orchestretic type stuff. And DBZ's anime and influenced by Kung-Fu clips, so RZA would be all over it if he could afford to sample Japanese DBZ stuff.
The RZA is too busy making music for Afro Samurai anyways.
Isn't FUNi connected to Afro Samurai?
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Post by B » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:04 pm

Eh, to say he sampled it is a stretch, IMO.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:07 pm

B wrote:Eh, to say he sampled it is a stretch, IMO.
Yeah, it was only the intro, and that's about it.
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Post by Budokai23 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:43 pm

The beginning sounded a lot alike but I have to agree that the rest of the song really didn't.
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Re: Young Jeezy song samples faulconer's DBZ Paikuhan theme?

Post by cRookie_Monster » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:38 pm

Budokai23 wrote:This may have been discussed before but I came across this and it is kinda interesting. Also it says on wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNLb8OjfdU The song's call "U Know What It Is".
I'm the one who actually recorded the original Pikkon theme and to me it doesn't sound like Jeezy sampled it.

1) The low choir sound is missing
2) His sound has a harder attack to it than mine
3) Its a different key with different chords

It's remotely possible he processed the heck out of it to make it sound like that, but I doubt it. There's DBZ like synths all over that album (especially in "U Know What it is") that no-one would claim were samples from the show. For instance the eighth note arpeggio that comes sounds very DBZ to me but is clearly not a sample.
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Re: Young Jeezy song samples faulconer's DBZ Paikuhan theme?

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:41 pm

cRookie_Monster wrote:
Budokai23 wrote:This may have been discussed before but I came across this and it is kinda interesting. Also it says on wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNLb8OjfdU The song's call "U Know What It Is".
I'm the one who actually recorded the original Paikuhan theme and to me it doesn't sound like Jeezy sampled it.

1) The low choir sound is missing
2) His sound has a harder attack to it than mine
3) Its a different key with different chords

It's remotely possible he processed the heck out of it to make it sound like that, but I doubt it. There's DBZ like synths all over that album (especially in "U Know What it is") that no-one would claim were samples from the show. For instance the eighth note arpeggio that comes sounds very DBZ to me but is clearly not a sample.
Actually, the beginning part of the Pikkon song was sampled for the intro of the Jeezy song, but that's it.

The Moral of the story: Only the beginning of the Pikkon theme is sampled.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:39 pm

Well that was just fucking awful whatever it was based off of. I'm going to go rip my ears off now.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:12 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote:No, he's right. RZA's more into orchestretic type stuff. And DBZ's anime and influenced by Kung-Fu clips, so RZA would be all over it if he could afford to sample Japanese DBZ stuff.
The RZA is too busy making music for Afro Samurai anyways.
Isn't FUNi connected to Afro Samurai?
FUNimation holds the home video distribution rights to the Afro Samurai animated franchise.
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Re: Young Jeezy song samples faulconer's DBZ Paikuhan theme?

Post by cRookie_Monster » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:15 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
cRookie_Monster wrote:
Budokai23 wrote:This may have been discussed before but I came across this and it is kinda interesting. Also it says on wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNLb8OjfdU The song's call "U Know What It Is".
I'm the one who actually recorded the original Paikuhan theme and to me it doesn't sound like Jeezy sampled it.

1) The low choir sound is missing
2) His sound has a harder attack to it than mine
3) Its a different key with different chords

It's remotely possible he processed the heck out of it to make it sound like that, but I doubt it. There's DBZ like synths all over that album (especially in "U Know What it is") that no-one would claim were samples from the show. For instance the eighth note arpeggio that comes sounds very DBZ to me but is clearly not a sample.
Actually, the beginning part of the Paikuhan song was sampled for the intro of the Jeezy song, but that's it.

The Moral of the story: Only the beginning of the Paikuhan theme is sampled.
Right, that's what people say and I disagree for the reasons stated above in my previous post.
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Post by SSj_Rambo » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:44 pm

I'm sure this "sampling" can be much more accredited to either his producer or his mixer, since they are the ones who make money from finding/creating/promoting good beats (not that Jeezy doesn't too, but I'm sure he's focusing more on the lyrical aspect).

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Post by VenomSymbiote » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:22 pm

Heh. I've noticed this for a long time now. I even put this as a note in the DBZ/LOG project I'm doing.

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