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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:44 pm

RoarkVegeta wrote:
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Char Aznable wrote: Would there really even be room on the discs for a third audio track? If they want to get the episodes on there with the best possible visual quality, I'm not sure if they would be able to fit the dub music track.

Though like people keep saying throughout this thread, encoding has improved greatly since 2003, so who knows.
The last Season set had 7 episodes per disc and three audio options and the quality was excellent.
The last disc of Season Nine had 5 episodes...
But the first 4 had 7 and the quality was excellent. No macro-blocking, no rainbows, no blurriness...none of that.
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Post by RoarkVegeta » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:45 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
RoarkVegeta wrote:The last disc of Season Nine had 5 episodes...
Yeah, and the first one had 7 per disc... What's your point?
Wait, he said every disc had seven episodes on Season Nine. I'm officially confused.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:45 pm

Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO GIVE US OPTIONS
Well, if the Japanese version is going to be default, then there must be something other than the default on there. Meaning the dub.
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I ALREADY KNOW THE DUB WILL BE THERE.

I'm just asking them to give us options between the two bgm options.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO GIVE US OPTIONS
Well, if the Japanese version is going to be default, then there must be something other than the default on there. Meaning the dub.
...

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I ALREADY KNOW THE DUB WILL BE THERE.

I'm just asking them to give us options between the two dubs.
I really don't think Funi would give up an opportunity to push any version of their show be it bad synth music filled or no.
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Post by Kunzait_83 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm just asking them to give us options between the two dubs.
Two BGM scores I think you mean. By saying "two dubs" it makes me think that you mean between FUNi and Ocean. You all only really care about the FUNi dub, but you want it with both Japanese and Faulconer BGMs. Am I correct?
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:48 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I'm just asking them to give us options between the two dubs.
Two BGM scores I think you mean. By saying "two dubs" it makes me think that you mean between FUNi and Ocean. You all only really care about the FUNi dub, but you want it with both Japanese and Faulconer BGMs.
Yes. Someone who understands.
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Post by GroundZero0215 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:50 pm

I have to say, I'm shocked, but not totally shocked by this announcement. I had a sneaky feeling that FUNimation would release the series again, but not this soon after the orange bricks finished their run. However, I am quite surprised that they obtained the same Dragon Box product that had been released in Japan. I didn't think it would actually happen. This is great news for the fans of the series that have wanted a definitive collection of DBZ, and great news for those who could not import the Dragon Box from Japan.

To me, I think it is amazing how this company has marketed, and released DBZ in so many ways. It started with the first 53 episodes, which were edited, and shown over and over again on television. Then, they finally gave us Japanese audio starting with the two Ginyu discs, and continuing with the rest of the series. THEN, their so-called "Ultimate Uncut Edition," which was unceremoniously stopped after 9 discs. It didn't end here. Next came the Widescreen disaster. To FUNi's credit, they presented the entire series in one format, although it had many, many problems. And now, the Dragon Box? If they are true to their word, and "didn't change a damn thing," it should make each and every one of us happy. It just sucks that it took them 11 years to get it right (even though the Dragon Box footage has only been around since '03).

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Post by Big Boss » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:50 pm

Ok, I looked at the size of a disc with 7 episodes on, it was about 7.4GB. Dual Layer DVD's can hold 8.5GB. So that's an extra GB they can use to whatever they wish.

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Post by Kendamu » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:51 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO GIVE US OPTIONS
Well, if the Japanese version is going to be default, then there must be something other than the default on there. Meaning the dub.
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I ALREADY KNOW THE DUB WILL BE THERE.

I'm just asking them to give us options between the two bgm options.
Have fun worrying about that. I think the vast majority of us are happy already.

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Post by Raki » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:54 pm

The only difference between Dub with Japanese BGM and Falcouner BGM is the first sounds weird with the dub and the other fits it.
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Post by Kaboom » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:55 pm

Having anything dub-related is little more than a bonus for me on these sets. If all they did was repackage the original DBox discs and put subtitles on, I'd be enthralled.

Nevertheless, the dub will be on there in one way or another. Even if it's "only" the one with the JPN BGM, that'll be more than good enough. It's about time FUNimation realizes their dub score stinks anyway. Let the Season Sets be bogged down with that track.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:56 pm

Why are you guys acting like Funi should pretty much disregard anything involving the dub? This isn't only about satisfying subbies.
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Post by laserkid » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:57 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO GIVE US OPTIONS
Yeah about that...

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Post by Freeza Heika » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:58 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Why are you guys acting like Funi has some right to completely disregard anything involving the dub?
They do have the right. They shouldn't, but they do have the right. It's their product, and if they don't want to maximize profit, that's on them.
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Post by Kendamu » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:58 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Why are you guys acting like Funi should pretty much disregard anything involving the dub? This isn't only about satisfying subbies.
We're not. We're talking about the part we care about. We didn't even consider the dub until you and a couple others came in with scraped knees.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Nevertheless, the dub will be on there in one way or another. Even if it's "only" the one with the JPN BGM, that'll be more than good enough. It's about time FUNimation realizes their dub score stinks anyway. Let the Season Sets be bogged down with that track.
Except some of us actually like it. I know, weird, right? The minority of a minority, that is those who will buy this release.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 pm

Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Why are you guys acting like Funi should pretty much disregard anything involving the dub? This isn't only about satisfying subbies.
We're not. We're talking about the part we care about. We didn't even consider the dub until you and a couple others came in with scraped knees.
Do you really have to talk down to me like that? There are more "hardcore fans" than just you guys. Dub fans also have opinions too, you know.
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Post by disturbed001 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:00 pm

IMO, I think this release should have all of the audio tracks, and I'm thinking it will. If they are going to do EVERYTHING right with this one, why wouldn't they? At the same time, it won't kill me too much if only one English track makes it.
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Post by Castor Troy » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:00 pm

Let's also hope the scouter menus are properly translated and not replaced with anything else.

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Post by Kendamu » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:02 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Why are you guys acting like Funi should pretty much disregard anything involving the dub? This isn't only about satisfying subbies.
We're not. We're talking about the part we care about. We didn't even consider the dub until you and a couple others came in with scraped knees.
Do you really have to talk down to me like that? There are more "hardcore fans" than just you guys. Dub fans also have opinions too, you know.
No. I don't have to, but I'm just in one of those moods where I just can't sit around and watch people complain and, as I said before, rain on our parade. I've been waiting at least a decade for something like this while the rest of my friends have been satisfied many times over already. I finally get something for me and I'm not really in the mood to put up with everyone I've had to watch be happy all this time suddenly act like they're getting ripped off.

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