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Post by Kunzait_83 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:57 am

Deep Thought wrote:Then I saw purist dipshits "nicely" complain about how Dub VAs and music would "contaminate" the epic awesomeness of the DBoesx, and then coldly state how Dub fans can go fuck themselves, because they haven't suffered like the original fans have and blah blah, wah wah.

I vomited in rage and disgust. You always manage to raise my expectation and crumble them in a swift motion, Daizex. I'm sorry if this is coming off as extremely offensive, but this elitism in its purist form almost caused me to shake with rage.

There, I feel much better now that I've written this. Honestly, this wouldn't have happened Rampant Dub Douchebags and Elitist Japanese Dipshits would just SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Since I somehow can’t help but feel partially responsible for some of that shit, I’ll just say that MagicBox in this quote here sums up my general feelings better than I ever could:
MagicBox wrote:FUNi's finally learned that their tampering gets them nowhere, so they're going back to the basics and just putting the show out there with no gimmicks. No widescreen, no cheap remastering, no "extreme," just a humble little show from the 80's/90's being presented for what it is. And best of all, FUNi's taking PRIDE in it. I wanna reward honesty like that. FUNi's done good, and it's nice to know I can lay down my money for what really is a definitive collection.

Yes, I know it's too soon to sing their praises when we don't have the release in our hands yet, but I'm willing to give FUNi the benefit of the doubt for once, especially since they've basically admitted that their products get worse when they try to make them better.
So how’s that for “elitist” bullshit for you? I say here and now, as someone who’s been among the most critical of FUNi’s treatment of the Dragon Ball franchise stateside, as someone who’s always been as far the fuck away from their target demographic for this series within the U.S. for the past 13/14 years as can be… I’m saying, for the very first time in the franchise’s entire messed up U.S. history (and within my entire post-dub history as a fan) and with no reservations or “buts” involved…

Thank you FUNimation.

Thank you for (finally, after a decade and a half of needless waiting and assorted bullshit) giving me basically what I wanted since way the hell before any of this crap with the series in the U.S. ever began, free of a single goddamned one of your trademark "catches". Thank you for FINALLY treating this series with the same level of care and respect that you’ve treated all your other anime properties with.

So long as this thing makes it through all seven volumes without getting discontinued, or thrown out of print within the span of a week after it’s release, AnimEigo-style, I’m as sound as a pound with every single thing about this release, and with Dragon Ball as it stands in the U.S. anime market today. Even getting dicked out of some money for the season sets isn't enough to make me anything less than entirely grateful for this release.

Thank you FUNimation. You finally did right by this little classic. Insofar as your treatment of Dragon Ball goes, you have now earned a significant chunk of my respect and support.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:59 am

I'm sitting here looking at my Dragon Box Z Vol.1(Japanese) box set, all I gotta say is. SUBTITLES!!!

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Post by Raki » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:00 am

Innagadadavida wrote:I'm sitting here reading all of Kanzentai's Dragon Box guide, just stewing in excitement. It's going to be agonizing waiting to complete this entire set. I can not wait to have all of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT on my shelve next to my other DVDs.
I've done that several times myself.
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Post by jda95 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:05 am

Watching the video where they announce it, I noticed that the rep says that what they expected the announcement to be (Kai, no doubt), they were 'still working on it'. Looking forward to that!

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Post by SonGokuGT » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:08 am

jda95 wrote:Watching the video where they announce it, I noticed that the rep says that what they expected the announcement to be (Kai, no doubt), they were 'still working on it'. Looking forward to that!
I doubt that Kai would come so fast. I think he was referring to the Jump 40th Anniversary Special.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:12 am

By major retailer stores, does that include Wal-mart? If it is, then I'm sold! If not, then that stinks! I'm actually hoping that I may be able to buy a cheaper Dragon Box. I know there wont be at Wal-mart because Dragon Box will be sold out before I even come in that store. Gosh, maybe I should order it through Amazon.
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Post by SonGokuGT » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:13 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:By major retailer stores, does that include Wal-mart? If it is, then I'm sold! If not, then that stinks! I'm actually hoping that I may be able to buy a cheaper Dragon Box. I know there wont be at Wal-mart because Dragon Box will be sold out before I even come in that store. Gosh, maybe I should order it through Amazon.
Never underestimate the release date specials at Best Buy. Then again they've dropped the ball as of late... Shop around, I'm sure someone will have a good deal on its first week of release! :)

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:16 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:By major retailer stores, does that include Wal-mart? If it is, then I'm sold! If not, then that stinks! I'm actually hoping that I may be able to buy a cheaper Dragon Box. I know there wont be at Wal-mart because Dragon Box will be sold out before I even come in that store. Gosh, maybe I should order it through Amazon.
Do what I do, go to the store the day it's released, actually 2 hrs before it's released. See it, grab it.

That's what I'm doing!

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Post by DBW » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:28 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
DBW wrote:Oh, no doubt. I actually hope that lots of people buy this set (I'd like to see it outperform the season sets, although that seems unlikely). It's kind of a conundrum. They did a shitty thing, but without that shitty thing we might not get these sets, even though in the end it's +2 for FUNi and -2 for the fans no matter how you look at it. :?
+1 for us fan if we sell the sets to the stores and -1 if we buy Dragon Box. 1+-1=0. In the end we won't get hurt at all.
Sorry man, but if you see buying the season sets and then selling them off as +1 for you, then you're totally rolling over on the issue. When you purchase something it's supposed to be the product that you wanted, not a down payment on a future release that might or might not ever exist. Most people were (let's face it) tricked into getting the season sets, thinking that it would be the end of the line. All I'm saying is that you should be more conscious of how you spend your money, especially now that this situation has come to light.

But let me rephrase all that:
Now that DBZ Dragon Box has been announced, are you ready to throw all your money at the DB season sets? And if they announce the DB Dragon Box shortly after the last season set is released, will you happily sell them all again (at a fraction of what you paid) and go through the process all over again? If so, then FUNi's really got you in their pocket.

I'm not trying to argue with you, man. I'm just saying that it's a "fool me once..." type scenario. I'd hate to see you guys repeat these mistakes under the pretense that it's good business or something.
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Post by email2003 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:33 am

WTH? Did it state Episode Previews? FINALLY!!!!

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:37 am

DBW wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
DBW wrote:Oh, no doubt. I actually hope that lots of people buy this set (I'd like to see it outperform the season sets, although that seems unlikely). It's kind of a conundrum. They did a shitty thing, but without that shitty thing we might not get these sets, even though in the end it's +2 for FUNi and -2 for the fans no matter how you look at it. :?
+1 for us fan if we sell the sets to the stores and -1 if we buy Dragon Box. 1+-1=0. In the end we won't get hurt at all.
Sorry man, but if you see buying the season sets and then selling them off as +1 for you, then you're totally rolling over on the issue. When you purchase something it's supposed to be the product that you wanted, not a down payment on a future release that might or might not ever exist. Most people were (let's face it) tricked into getting the season sets, thinking that it would be the end of the line. All I'm saying is that you should be more conscious of how you spend your money, especially now that this situation has come to light.

But let me rephrase all that:
Now that DBZ Dragon Box has been announced, are you ready to throw all your money at the DB season sets? And if they announce the DB Dragon Box shortly after the last season set is released, will you happily sell them all again (at a fraction of what you paid) and go through the process all over again? If so, then FUNi's really got you in their pocket.

I'm not trying to argue with you, man. I'm just saying that it's a "fool me once..." type scenario. I'd hate to see you guys repeat these mistakes under the pretense that it's good business or something.
I only have Z Season 1-8 and GT Season 1. I just might have enough money to purchase Kai Boxset and DBOX. All I have to do is to save money starting now. You guys might as well do the same. If you really want to buy Kai so badly, be my quest. Actually, it's nothing wrong on buying Kai because Kai isn't Z. Plus it contains Dragon Box masters with great encoding. But if you are fan of filler and only want to collect Dragon Box footage, I'm happy for you. All I say is that you ought to save the money for something you want to purchase. Or you might as well sell these milk (orange bricks) to the store.
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Post by DBW » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:43 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I only have Z Season 1-8 and GT Season 1. I just might have enough money to purchase Kai Boxset and DBOX. All I have to do is to save money starting now. You guys might as well do the same. If you really want to buy Kai so badly, be my quest. Actually, it's nothing wrong on buying Kai because Kai isn't Z. Plus it contains Dragon Box masters with great encoding. But if you are fan of filler and only want to collect Dragon Box footage, I'm happy for you. All I say is that you ought to save the money for something you want to purchase. Or you might as well sell these milk (orange bricks) to the store.
I don't even know if we're talking about the same thing anymore...

I'll just end this by saying that I will also be buying DragonBall Kai (blu-ray). I look forward to seeing both how FUNimation handles this DBox release, as well as how the 4:3 Kai material looks.

2009 is shaping up to be a fun year for DragonBall. :)
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Post by Pain » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:44 am

This is what happens when I ask my mother for the sets:
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Pain: Mom can you buy this new Dragonball Z boxset?

Pain's Mom: Well how much does it cost?

Pain: Seventy-Ei---

WHAM!

***Pain wakes up hours later in a hospital with a concussion.***

Doctor: How'd you get that injury, boy?

Pain: ***Looks at his mother***

Pain's Mom:***Gives Evil Glare***

Pain: Uh...I fell down a flight of stairs...



:lol: Unless I have a job, I don't think my mom would buy them for me, unless it's Christmas, hoping that there'd even be anymore, by then.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:46 am

Pain wrote::lol: Unless I have a job, I don't think my mom would buy them for me, unless it's Christmas, hoping that there'd even be anymore, by then.
Then get a job! The minute I heard, I logged on to Target.com and put in an application. I need a job before, but now it's time to get serious.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:47 am

Pain wrote:This is what happens when I ask my mother for the sets:
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Pain: Mom can you buy this new Dragonball Z boxset?

Pain's Mom: Well how much does it cost?

Pain: Seventy-Ei---

WHAM!

***Pain wakes up hours later in a hospital with a concussion.***

Doctor: How'd you get that injury, boy?

Pain: ***Looks at his mother***

Pain's Mom:***Gives Evil Glare***

Pain: Uh...I fell down a flight of stairs...



:lol: Unless I have a job, I don't think my mom would buy them for me, unless it's Christmas, hoping that there'd even be anymore, by then.
I know how you feel man, mom hates me buying anything anime oriented. I just tell her to piss off most of the time. You can always ask dad? Say you got an A on your math test or something and demand Dragon Box Z Vol. 1!

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Post by Pain » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:49 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
Pain wrote::lol: Unless I have a job, I don't think my mom would buy them for me, unless it's Christmas, hoping that there'd even be anymore, by then.
Then get a job! The minute I heard, I logged on to Target.com and put in an application. I need a job before, but now it's time to get serious.
It's not that easy when you're a 14 year-old. And since my family wants to be cheap when it comes to them paying me for doing work for them, I've got no luck. :lol:

Maybe I'll win the lottery and buy out all of the sets, just to be a douche? :lol:
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Post by Thanos » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:53 am

Hmm. I don't even know what to think aside from their advertising this as "the definitive collection", when that was exactly the marketing-tag they used for the Season Sets. Weasels, the lot of 'em. :?

I love my Season Sets. I have all of them, and just today got the first Double Feature (Trunks + Bardock) in the mail. My subsequent purchases will likely be the remaining Double Features & Triple Feature.

I originally had a minor gripe with the cropping, but that went away half-way through the first set. The quality seems passable, nothing remarkable, although I didn't really have that much problem with the original quality (even that which was aired on TV didn't bother me). On top of that, it actually looks quite good on my HDTV in widescreen.

As much as I hate to say it, I likely won't be picking up these Dragon Boxes. It almost seems like a brush with fate that I just finished my collection and they're now releasing these perfect boxes :P . Either way, I've watched nearly half of the series on the Season Sets (in original Japanese audio/Simmons subtitles of course), and I can't honestly think of one thing to complain about. I have the entire, (mostly) unadulterated series, episodes 1-291, and I honestly never dreamed I would. I haven't a thing to complain about.

Maybe that's something you all should ask yourselves: When you've sold all of your sets that you've shelled out $300 for and gotten only half in return, and you go out and buy your first set with only the first 40 or so episodes (and having to wait another few months for the next), after you've drooled over the art and nice booklet, at the end of the day... will you be completely gratified with no sense of resentment whatsoever?

I'd probably go for the Dragon Boxes had I not already purchased the bricks. And I'm not going to buy both; such would cost in the neighbourhood of $800. Just for two sets of the same series. Nuh-uh.

I'm just saying, before you all go craigslistin'/eBayin'/Amazonin' your Season Sets you saved all that money for, you really should think about this long and hard.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:54 am

Pain wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
Pain wrote::lol: Unless I have a job, I don't think my mom would buy them for me, unless it's Christmas, hoping that there'd even be anymore, by then.
Then get a job! The minute I heard, I logged on to Target.com and put in an application. I need a job before, but now it's time to get serious.
It's not that easy when you're a 14 year-old. And since my family wants to be cheap when it comes to them paying me for doing work for them, I've got no luck. :lol:

Maybe I'll win the lottery and buy out all of the sets, just to be a douche? :lol:
I might be willing to buy Dragon Box for you if you have anything good deal related to Dragon Ball merchadises.
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DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I only have Z Season 1-8 and GT Season 1. I just might have enough money to purchase Kai Boxset and DBOX. All I have to do is to save money starting now. You guys might as well do the same. If you really want to buy Kai so badly, be my quest. Actually, it's nothing wrong on buying Kai because Kai isn't Z. Plus it contains Dragon Box masters with great encoding. But if you are fan of filler and only want to collect Dragon Box footage, I'm happy for you. All I say is that you ought to save the money for something you want to purchase. Or you might as well sell these milk (orange bricks) to the store.
I don't even know if we're talking about the same thing anymore...

I'll just end this by saying that I will also be buying DragonBall Kai (blu-ray). I look forward to seeing both how FUNimation handles this DBox release, as well as how the 4:3 Kai material looks.
I apologize if I talked like an idiot. I can see what you are saying. While I agree with you, I'm just saying I can buy both Kai release and Dragon Box. I mean, is it worth it? If you look back, Dragon Boxes all were out of print since they were used for online ordering. But this is kinda different because you can buy it from the major stores such as Best Buy, Wal-Mart, your local mall, etcs. Just saying. :D
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Post by email2003 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:54 am

Well I have a job and I'm glad I didn't decide to buy the G.I. Joe Entire Series Set ($145.00). I bought the $19.99 instead but the Dragon Box is just too awesome. It's like a dream to me still. :P

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Post by gallagtor » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:54 am

Holy shit! I'm away from the internet for one day and I miss the biggest Dragon Ball news ever to hit North America.
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