Let's have 7 disks instead of 6...email FUNi!

[JulieYBM]

It's not that we'd all throw a shitfit and tear down FUNi HQ if it stayed as 6 discs. If you look at the emails we're sending, they're very polite and we're thanking them for bringing us the DBox. However, back in the day with the Season Sets there was the problem of having the episodes on 5 discs instead of 6. This was changed from 5 to 6 in order to preserve the highest quality possible. Now we're asking to go from 6 to 7 for the same reason.

It's not outside of their understanding or ability. It's not like something they can't provide for us.

Some people are just never happy with anything.

We're actually really happy with this. We're just asking for a slight improvement while there's still time to make improvements. It's not too much to ask, really. If we don't express our interest in such things, we'd never get the products we want.

We'd have never had the first three Ocean-dubbed DBZ movies uncut with English voices and Japanese BGM nor would we have had the Japanese version with subtitles on those same discs. We would never have had uncut English dub tapes. We would never have had the series in Japanese with subtitles. Parts of Europe would've never heard from the Ocean cast ever again (they came back from Season 4 onward overseas). We would've never seen an attempt at re-dubbing the first two seasons before moving onto the Bricks. We wouldn't have had the English voices with Japanese BGM on the Bricks. We would never have had 6 discs on the Bricks instead of 5. We also would've never gotten the Dragon Boxes or the first 13 episodes of Dragonball uncut.

It's because of fan feedback that things continue to get better over time. It's because of fan feedback that FUNi reps now have MySpace and Twitter for us to quickly get questions answered and responses to feedback. It's not just whining and bitching amongst ourselves. Sure, we do that here, but we also make sure that FUNimation, Viz, (formerly) Atari, Bandai, etc. know our concerns so that things we wanna see make it into the comics, DVDs, games, etc.

Because of fan feedback, FUNimation is working on getting more of the things fans ask for like "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyan," the 40th Anniversary Jump Special, and Dragonball Kai released in the US. While I can easily import Kai and while I've already imported the Special, it would be spectacular to have R1 releases of these things so I can watch them outside of my home on other peoples' players or throw on some subtitles when I have friends over who can't understand Japanese or if I'm just feeling lazy and don't feel like listening hard enough to understand most of what everyone's saying.

Yes, fans can be annoying and whiny and it's impossible to make all of us happy. However, if we just stayed quiet all we would have are crappy bootlegs, some hard-to-find fansubs, and the first couple seasons of the Ocean dub. Is that how you want things to be?

This is why we ask for things.

Very well said.

If people thought DBOX masters were impossible to get in R1, a bloody release of the Ocean dub of edited 108-276 is likely...probably...meh.

[omegacwa]

Well, I sent an e-mail just for the hell of it. I was very polite and all, even though I don't really care how many disks are involved as long as the video looks good.

[Deep Thought]

I'm going to be being realistic by saying that there's not a chance in hell that the FIRST DBox is going to have seven discs. Maybe the later ones, but not this one. Why? Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized. They are probably going to spend the rest of their time mass-producing and marketing them.

They definitely aren't going to say, "Oh shit, 14 people sent emails to us, time to do it all over again." I'm not trying to be harsh, just trying to be realistic.

People said there was never a chance in hell that FUNi would acquire the Dragon Box, and oh, look what's happened.

There's 4 months left until release, the one at the conference was a MOCK, it's not listed at any sites, and you're being pessimistic. These are good enough reasons for me to ask them to change something so simple.

Uh, call me a noob in terms of DVD packaging, but don't they have to add a menu for that disc, add a cover for that disc, almost completely redesign the package to accommodate this new disc, completely change the episode distribution per disc, and factor in how much materials it will require for that one extra disc?

Just because 14 people sent emails.

[Big Boss]

I'm going to be being realistic by saying that there's not a chance in hell that the FIRST DBox is going to have seven discs. Maybe the later ones, but not this one. Why? Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized. They are probably going to spend the rest of their time mass-producing and marketing them.

They definitely aren't going to say, "Oh shit, 14 people sent emails to us, time to do it all over again." I'm not trying to be harsh, just trying to be realistic.

People said there was never a chance in hell that FUNi would acquire the Dragon Box, and oh, look what's happened.

There's 4 months left until release, the one at the conference was a MOCK, it's not listed at any sites, and you're being pessimistic. These are good enough reasons for me to ask them to change something so simple.

Uh, call me a noob in terms of DVD packaging, but don't they have to add a menu for that disc, add a cover for that disc, almost completely redesign the package to accommodate this new disc, completely change the episode distribution per disc, and factor in how much materials it will require for that one extra disc?

Just because 14 people sent emails.

They did for Season 1 of the orange bricks for us. 5 disks to 6 thanks to our "minuscule" amount of emails.

[Krycek7o2]

I'm going to be being realistic by saying that there's not a chance in hell that the FIRST DBox is going to have seven discs. Maybe the later ones, but not this one. Why? Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized. They are probably going to spend the rest of their time mass-producing and marketing them.

They definitely aren't going to say, "Oh shit, 14 people sent emails to us, time to do it all over again." I'm not trying to be harsh, just trying to be realistic.

People said there was never a chance in hell that FUNi would acquire the Dragon Box, and oh, look what's happened.

There's 4 months left until release, the one at the conference was a MOCK, it's not listed at any sites, and you're being pessimistic. These are good enough reasons for me to ask them to change something so simple.

Uh, call me a noob in terms of DVD packaging, but don't they have to add a menu for that disc, add a cover for that disc, almost completely redesign the package to accommodate this new disc, completely change the episode distribution per disc, and factor in how much materials it will require for that one extra disc?

Just because 14 people sent emails.

You are correct, sir!
Many of the people will not even notice, IF there is a drop in Video or Audio quality. Let things flow out, if they change it great, if not , oh well.

I am sure that FUNi will at least attempt a good re-encode for the new masters.

Here's my take.
They bought Japanese Masters, or copies I should say. They didn't buy the DVDs, so they will encode their own DVDs' which in theory can yield good results as long as they use proper encoding methods.

There's nothing to worry about, just let the product come out, then we can rip them a new one if needed.

[Mystery Person X]

Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized.

No it didn't. They had one mock-up.

Not to mention that the packaging has two "books" that have up to four discs in each one. All they'd have to do with the packaging to add an extra disc is change one of the plastic trays to hold two discs instead of one.

[DemonRin]

Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized.

No it didn't. They had one mock-up.

Not to mention that the packaging has two "books" that have up to four discs in each one. All they'd have to do with the packaging to add an extra disc is change one of the plastic trays to hold two discs instead of one.

Yeah, the book had all White Paper in it.

[Kendamu]

I'm going to be being realistic by saying that there's not a chance in hell that the FIRST DBox is going to have seven discs. Maybe the later ones, but not this one. Why? Because, at the conference, the thing looked pretty finalized. They are probably going to spend the rest of their time mass-producing and marketing them.

They definitely aren't going to say, "Oh shit, 14 people sent emails to us, time to do it all over again." I'm not trying to be harsh, just trying to be realistic.

People said there was never a chance in hell that FUNi would acquire the Dragon Box, and oh, look what's happened.

There's 4 months left until release, the one at the conference was a MOCK, it's not listed at any sites, and you're being pessimistic. These are good enough reasons for me to ask them to change something so simple.

Uh, call me a noob in terms of DVD packaging, but don't they have to add a menu for that disc, add a cover for that disc, almost completely redesign the package to accommodate this new disc, completely change the episode distribution per disc, and factor in how much materials it will require for that one extra disc?

Just because 14 people sent emails.

We're getting the Dragon Box based on fewer people than that sending in actual letters.

[Li'l Lemmy]

There's nothing to worry about, just let the product come out, then we can rip them a new one if needed.

But who wants to do that? The point of asking FUNimation to address such concerns is so that we can avoid that particular outcome if at all possible-- we "hardcore" fans are so, SO tired of bitching after the fact, not to mention that everyone else is tired of hearing us bitch as well. It's in all our best interests to complain while there's still time to do so.

There is nothing wrong with being vocal about what you want in a release that you are going to pay for so long as it's done in a respectful manner that doesn't make you look like a douchebag. Members of DaizEX (and now other boards as well, because we're just trendy like that) are speaking out in a single collective voice for that seventh disc because we genuinely care about the release, the source material and DragonBall in general. I don't see the point in being silent, to be honest.


~Da Lemmy

[Raki]

There's nothing to worry about, just let the product come out, then we can rip them a new one if needed.

But who wants to do that? The point of asking FUNimation to address such concerns is so that we can avoid that particular outcome if at all possible-- we "hardcore" fans are so, SO tired of bitching after the fact, not to mention that everyone else is tired of hearing us bitch as well. It's in all our best interests to complain while there's still time to do so.

There is nothing wrong with being vocal about what you want in a release that you are going to pay for so long as it's done in a respectful manner that doesn't make you look like a douchebag. Members of DaizEX (and now other boards as well, because we're just trendy like that) are speaking out in a single collective voice for that seventh disc because we genuinely care about the release, the source material and DragonBall in general. I don't see the point in being silent, to be honest.


~Da Lemmy

Agreed. I want a consistent release of DBZ that I won't ashamed to show to friends if I have them over.

[Thanos]

I'd rather have like, twelve discs to make it worth a purchase over having the Season Sets.

[Li'l Lemmy]

I'd rather have like, twelve discs to make it worth a purchase over having the Season Sets.

. . . twelve?!


~Da Lemmy

[SSJToreto]

I sent in a death threat.

No need to send any more e-mails guy's.

lol jk I sent in an e-mail (the polite-kind...)

[CrayZ]

There's nothing to worry about, just let the product come out, then we can rip them a new one if needed.

But who wants to do that? The point of asking FUNimation to address such concerns is so that we can avoid that particular outcome if at all possible-- we "hardcore" fans are so, SO tired of bitching after the fact, not to mention that everyone else is tired of hearing us bitch as well. It's in all our best interests to complain while there's still time to do so.

There is nothing wrong with being vocal about what you want in a release that you are going to pay for so long as it's done in a respectful manner that doesn't make you look like a douchebag. Members of DaizEX (and now other boards as well, because we're just trendy like that) are speaking out in a single collective voice for that seventh disc because we genuinely care about the release, the source material and DragonBall in general. I don't see the point in being silent, to be honest.


~Da Lemmy

I was one of the guys asking "why bitch?" but after reading what you had to say I'm totally in agreement with having the extra disk, it's our Kami given right to get the highest quality. FUNi has a bad history of taking the easy way out...NOT THIS TIME!

[Presc503]

I sent in a death threat.

No need to send any more e-mails guy's.

lol jk I sent in an e-mail (the polite-kind...)

Yeah, I actually sent the death threat...

You hear that Funimation?! You're all DEAD if you screw this release up! DEAD!

[Li'l Lemmy]

I was one of the guys asking "why bitch?" but after reading what you had to say I'm totally in agreement with having the extra disk, it's our Kami given right to get the highest quality. FUNi has a bad history of taking the easy way out...NOT THIS TIME!

It's not that they have a history of taking the easy way out; the fact of it is that they often make things more difficult for themselves thanks to their habit of trying to reinvent the wheel with each DBZ release. They aren't evil so much as they tend to wind up misguided, IMO.


~Da Lemmy

[Acid_Reign]

Uh, call me a noob in terms of DVD packaging, but don't they have to add a menu for that disc, add a cover for that disc, almost completely redesign the package to accommodate this new disc, completely change the episode distribution per disc, and factor in how much materials it will require for that one extra disc?

Just because 14 people sent emails.

It may not be probable, but the chances of it happening are 0 if no one sends anything in, and it only take a few minutes to do, so why not?

[Smooth Criminal]

Your e-mails aren't going to make a difference, here. What, you think they're going to alter the complex packaging of the DBox to accommodate an extra disc? Since they've been showing off their mock-up units already, I'm assuming the packaging has already been sent off to be mass produced.

You're wasting your time, me thinks.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

I sent in a death threat.

No need to send any more e-mails guy's.

lol jk I sent in an e-mail (the polite-kind...)

Yeah, I actually sent the death threat...

You hear that Funimation?! You're all DEAD if you screw this release up! DEAD!

I sent a scary one, if you fuck up this release every dragon ball fan from Canada and the US will march down to Texas and kick your fucking ass... than slip away to Japan^^

I wish I had the guts to send that... but my e-mail address holds my address,phone etc. It's on a University server.

[Li'l Lemmy]

You're wasting your time, me thinks.

Perhaps, but it be's our time to waste.

I wish I had the guts to send that... but my e-mail address holds my address,phone etc. It's on a University server.

No you don't. Sending that wouldn't help anyone, and might even turn out detrimental to our cause.


~Da Lemmy