Kuriza: Would he be considered canon?

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:04 am

Yes, he was in Neko Majin, but that was a parody of Dragonball, right? So does this mean that he just doesn't exist, at all? Does Toriyama mention him anytime after Neko Majin? And is he even considered canon?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:45 am

Kuriza, canon?

SURE, why not?

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:44 am

Is there any reason to consider him canon or non-canon, other than to be able to say, "he's canon" or "he's not canon"? I don't mean to be difficult or shoot down your topic, but without a reason for wondering I don't think it makes a difference if he is or isn't.

Terra-jin · Post by **Terra-jin** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:56 am

Bussani wrote:Is there any reason to consider him canon or non-canon, other than to be able to say, "he's canon" or "he's not canon"?

Well for one, if Kuriza is canon, it means there are more people of Freeza's race (at least one female). Since it's never stated whether Cold and Freeza are the last of their kind, it's interesting to find out.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:05 am

It depends so much on your definition of canon. If you consider Toriyama's other works canon, than sure, he's canon.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:18 am

KURIZA! I wanted that to be my username, but it was taken. I have such an obsession with him.

But no, I would say he isn't canon.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:19 am

Terra-jin wrote:
Bussani wrote:Is there any reason to consider him canon or non-canon, other than to be able to say, "he's canon" or "he's not canon"?
Well for one, if Kuriza is canon, it means there are more people of Freeza's race (at least one female). Since it's never stated whether Cold and Freeza are the last of their kind, it's interesting to find out.

As you say, it would be interesting to know either things. But neither one has any bearing on anything, so you might as well say anything.

I think distinguishing canon and non-canon is only important for the writers themselves (to avoid inconsistencies -- Piccolo blowing up baby Goku's pod, for instance, Toriyama would probably consider non-canon) and for when we're having arguments like...

"Vegeta said this about Super Saiyans. That's evidence that etc etc."
"That line's non-canon though, so it wasn't in Toriyama's mind when he wrote this part."

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:40 am

SSj_Rambo wrote:It depends so much on your definition of canon. If you consider Toriyama's other works canon, than sure, he's canon.

They wouldn't all be "canon" to Dragonball though would they? As I understand it not a lot of people would consider all the events Dr. Slump to be canon to DB, despite the cameo chapters that set them in the same world.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:47 am

Amigo Ten wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:It depends so much on your definition of canon. If you consider Toriyama's other works canon, than sure, he's canon.
They wouldn't all be "canon" to Dragonball though would they? As I understand it not a lot of people would consider all the events Dr. Slump to be canon to DB, despite the cameo chapters that set them in the same world.

I think that's what he means by 'if you consider'. Some people try to fit all of Toriyama's stuff (or as much of it as possible) into the same universe. Like I said, it doesn't make much difference whether you want to consider them personal canon or not, in my opinion.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:18 am

I like to think he is, just because I like him

And yes, I know that makes no sense

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:38 am

Well since Kuriza was included in a video game, I think he is to an extent. We hardly ever get characters in a game that did not show up in the anime except for Soba. Yet, even Soba could have been a behind the scenes character because we do not know what exactly transpired on Yardrat. So in my opinion Kuriza as well as Soba could be considered “canon” of the anime continuity if you want to look at it that way.

evilp666 · Post by **evilp666** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:34 pm

If you can imagine Freeza actualy getting a women to bear his children
then I'd why not,anythings possible

B · Post by B » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:49 pm

evilp666 wrote:If you can imagine Freeza actualy getting a women to bear his children
then I'd why not,anythings possible

That wouldn't be too hard. Freeza, the most tyrannical being in the universe, gives space whores a choice: hold still or die.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:59 pm

He's as canon as Table.

evilp666 · Post by **evilp666** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:20 pm

Yeah thats very true B.I think he would go the test tube route I mean,he has all of those machines

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:30 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:He's as canon as Table.

That depends. Is the table made of mahogany?

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:24 pm

johnboy1 wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:He's as canon as Table.
That depends. Is the table made of mahogany?

Classic

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:41 pm

Thanks. I was worried it was too much of a stretch (what with Enma having a desk, not a table).

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