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Post by Rod » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:17 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Rod wrote:Either he usees Kaio-ken or he gets some sort of power up from hs third eye because he's an alien or something.

Or he becomes a Super Human-jin :P
There's a user over on DevientART called MajinTenshinhan. He does some sweet art with a story that he made up about Ten accessing his hidden powers from his alien ancestry.

Ten's Kaioken
Mystic Tenshinhan
Mystic Tenshinhan and Kabitokai
Uub and Ten fusion

I'd like to see some of that in action. You hear me DBMultiverse crew?
I hadn't seen those before they're pretty good.

It is a popular theory so it's very possible thay are going to do something with it

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:38 pm

Whoopee-fucking-do. Until I get confirmation of ChiChi, I don't give a shit.

Also, Tien's a bitch. Yeah, that's right. Chiaotzu wears the pants in that relationship.

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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:08 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:Holy Jesus a single page renewed my interest in the comic.
Agreed, I saw Tapion and was able to rejoice for the first time in a long time. Then I saw the humans and funny enough... the very first thing that I thought was "They must be reading what we're saying over at Daizex :lol: ".
If that is the case we better have a Kaio-ken Tenshinhan moment.
Rocketman wrote:Whoopee-fucking-do. Until I get confirmation of ChiChi, I don't give a shit.

Also, Tenshinhan's a bitch. Yeah, that's right. Chiaotzu wears the pants in that relationship.
Hey I am not concerned about the man's wiener business, what I would like to see is him using Kaio-Ken.
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:40 pm

Because the Kaioken can totally stand up to the Super Saiyan state. :roll:
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:13 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:Because the Kaioken can totally stand up to the Super Saiyan state. :roll:
It is about Tenshinhan actually showing his true potential, whether it can stand up to Super Saiyan or not is not the point. It is about Tenshinhan and he deserves some glory simply for the fact that he was not handed everything like everyone’s god Son Gohan. Tenshinhan actually worked hard for his power and continued to do so even though he knew that he could never reach the Saiyan's level of power (even though that is debatable).
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:18 pm

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SSJ2bardock wrote:Because the Kaioken can totally stand up to the Super Saiyan state. :roll:
It is about Tenshinhan actually showing his true potential, whether it can stand up to Super Saiyan or not is not the point. It is about Tenshinhan and he deserves some glory simply for the fact that he was not handed everything like everyone’s god Son Gohan. Tenshinhan actually worked hard for his power and continued to do so even though he knew that he could never reach the Saiyan's level of power (even though that is debatable).
Simply working hard does not guarentee you, or even entitle you to being better than everyone else. Some people are just going to always be better than you through natural talent. Look at the pro sports world, a player can train and train and train to be the best, but that isn't going to stop someone from getting farther than him with less training and more natural talent. Everyone has their ceiling when it comes to potential.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:22 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:Simply working hard does not guarentee you, or even entitle you to being better than everyone else. Some people are just going to always be better than you through natural talent. Look at the pro sports world, a player can train and train and train to be the best, but that isn't going to stop someone from getting farther than him with less training and more natural talent. Everyone has their ceiling when it comes to potential.
There's no point arguing against someone's opinion. The Prof. feels that Ten deserves some glory. So do I. So do a lot of people. This is what we want to see. Did he say that because somebody works hard they deserve all the glory in the world? As a matter of fact, he didn't.

Why don't you argue why Ten DOESN'T deserve this treatment rather than flaunting your belief system where nobody cares to read it.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:34 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:Simply working hard does not guarentee you, or even entitle you to being better than everyone else. Some people are just going to always be better than you through natural talent. Look at the pro sports world, a player can train and train and train to be the best, but that isn't going to stop someone from getting farther than him with less training and more natural talent. Everyone has their ceiling when it comes to potential.
There's no point arguing against someone's opinion. The Prof. feels that Ten deserves some glory. So do I. So do a lot of people. This is what we want to see. Did he say that because somebody works hard they deserve all the glory in the world? As a matter of fact, he didn't.
Calm your tits dude, there was absolutely zero aggression in my post, so I'm not sure why you're coming off as heated. And what I said was fact, so there's no use arguing it. My favorite baseball player is Ryan Theriot of the Chicago Cubs, but just because I like him and he works hard doesnt mean he somehow DESERVES to put together an MVP season, he'll never be more than a .290 hitter.
Innagadadavida wrote:Why don't you argue why Ten DOESN'T deserve this treatment rather than flaunting your belief system where nobody cares to read it.
I'm pretty sure I just did... twice.
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Post by Kaiser Gogeta » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:36 pm

Could the figure behind Tapion be Dr. Raichi?
And maybe Universe 9 is a universe where Goku never came on Earth and the humans were able to beat the Saiyans? Idk.

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:47 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:Simply working hard does not guarentee you, or even entitle you to being better than everyone else. Some people are just going to always be better than you through natural talent. Look at the pro sports world, a player can train and train and train to be the best, but that isn't going to stop someone from getting farther than him with less training and more natural talent. Everyone has their ceiling when it comes to potential.
Yes, but nobody gets to be the best athlete in the world by sitting on their ass for seven years and a day.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:51 pm

Kaiser Gogeta wrote:Could the figure behind Tapion be Dr. Raichi?
Maybe. But he would be incapable of fighting against anyone. Raising up the barrier is all he could do. That would be ex~tremely boring.

Hachihyaku would be butthurt to many competitors.
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:54 pm

Rocketman wrote: Yes, but nobody gets to be the best athlete in the world by sitting on their ass for seven years and a day.
Fair enough, but the baseball player I mentioned before is one of the hardest workers in recent memory, but his natural skill set is holding him back. Miguel Cabrera of the Detroit Tigers consistently shows up over weight and out of shape, but he still hits .350 every year and is one of the best players in the game.

Whatever though, you guys want your fangasm and I'm really done trying to reason with it at this point. And I'm pretty sure most of, if not all, of my sports references are going over the community's head.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:56 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:.
Okay, two problems. One, this is fiction... FAN fiction. Where it's absolutely within the realm of possibility to see everything our pathetic little hearts desire. Two, my post wasn't "heated" that's why I threw in the little "matter of fact" reference. Y'know, because we were on the topic of Tien.

Oh yeah, and three. You never once provided a valid reason why Ten shouldn't be able to use the Kaioken. You just said he doesn't deserve it because that's life.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:01 pm

Show me where I said he couldn't use the Kaioken, I wasn't even talking about that...

I was just talking about this line-
Saiyan-Professor wrote:It is about Tenshinhan and he deserves some glory simply for the fact that he was not handed everything like everyone’s god Son Gohan.
And explaing why things are the way they are.

And your post was heated, whether you intended it or not.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:18 pm

Show me where I said he couldn't use the Kaioken, I wasn't even talking about that...
That's exactly what I said, read before you post. We just want to see one of our favorite characters get some well deserved spotlight. It's not like what we're asking is any more impossible than Pan going super.

And no. None of my posts were heated. :roll:

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:32 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Show me where I said he couldn't use the Kaioken, I wasn't even talking about that...
That's exactly what I said, read before you post.
Oh really?
Innagadadavida wrote:Oh yeah, and three. You never once provided a valid reason why Ten shouldn't be able to use the Kaioken. You just said he doesn't deserve it because that's life.
Ah, sweet justice.


I don't need to provide a valid reason because I never said he couldn't.

I'm not sure why you're so angry...
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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:42 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Why don't you argue why Ten DOESN'T deserve this treatment rather than flaunting your belief system where nobody cares to read it.
I'm pretty sure I just did... twice.
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Oh yeah, and three. You never once provided a valid reason why Ten shouldn't be able to use the Kaioken. You just said he doesn't deserve it because that's life.
Ah, sweet justice.
This argument is really stupid.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:47 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Why don't you argue why Ten DOESN'T deserve this treatment rather than flaunting your belief system where nobody cares to read it.
I'm pretty sure I just did... twice.
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Oh yeah, and three. You never once provided a valid reason why Ten shouldn't be able to use the Kaioken. You just said he doesn't deserve it because that's life.
Ah, sweet justice.
This argument is really stupid.
It says "why he doesn't deserve this treatment", not "why he doesn't deserve to use the kaioken". I've explained my stance on it twice now saying that his natural talent level is much lower than that of the Saiyans, but you're taking pretty much everything I'm saying out of context, so I'm done talking about it.
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Post by rereboy » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:50 am

SSJ2bardock wrote:Because the Kaioken can totally stand up to the Super Saiyan state. :roll:
That depends on the base form`s power and how well developed the kaioken is, since SSJ is the base power times 50.

We`ve seen the kaioken x 20 in the series. If Ten managed to create a Shin Kaioken, I don`t see why it couldn`t stand up to at least SSJ 1. And if his base power was much superior to the sayan`s, even regular kaioken might do.

But there are other fighters in the tournament besides the sayans, you know? As you can see from this first fight, krillin is not going to fight a sayan.
However the most logical power up for the humans is the kaioken, if you want to make them stronger than in the series.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:04 pm

True, but while the Kaioken could hypothetically give you a power up larger than base x50 it would only be in short bursts, basing that off of what we've seen in the series, while the Super Saiyan state is a true transformation that gives a constant power boost.

And as you said before, if the base power was exponentially higher than what we would think it to be the Kaioken could be quite substantial. The only problem I see with that is that even from the earliest points of Z when there were no Super Saiyans, the humans were still quite a bit weaker than the Saiyans and even the Namekians (specifically Piccolo) in their base forms.

Then again, this is a fan comic and Kuririn could just as easily turn around and say "LOLOL We got powur upz and now we be 1337".
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