What AGE is Freeza?

'lo Legends · Post by **'lo Legends** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:50 am

Does anyone know? Could Freeza actually be a child who shows exponential power? Showing how he talks to King Cold (calling him "Daddy", and such) not to mention the fact that he seems much shorter than King Cold, could he actually be a child?

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:47 am

He would have to be atleast 40 years old, probably much more so. Freeza's race is probably very long lived.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:58 am

Yes Deus, but if they're long lived then 40, could still be considered a child to them.

Gouki · Post by **Gouki** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:36 am

Don't forget, that the size wouldn't matter all that much--his second form and third form was at least two times taller than his fourth form.

And the 'daddy' could just be a royalty, spoiled as a child thing. "Oh please, daddy, but me that pony bredding planet!'

However being a child would explain his attitude. Then again, so could the spoilt as a child thing again.

So. Yeah.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:51 pm

Oh, I like this idea...

Let's just say Freeza has lived for 50 years. If that gave him about the maturity of a 10 year old (humans), we could say his species lives to around 400, on average? (This is assuming that a person's maturity increases as they hit certain percentages of their lifespan, rather than them getting older. I'm not saying it does.)

Their power growth, however, would NOT be determined by percentage of lifespan. No way. 40 years of the same training would get you the same profit with different species.

Oh, and more about Freeza's race. We only assume there are 3 of them, right? Is there a chance that they have a whole planet somewhere, and King Cold's family was just in a position of money and power? Overall, the species might be only slightly stronger than others.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:42 pm

Yeah, we're never shown other Changelings but it's possible there's a planet full of them out there and that the Cold Family is just overpowered. I mean, think about it, Vegeta was overpowered for a Saiya-jin in the Saiya-jin saga (Not to mention him, Goku, and Gohan later on) and Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin were overpowered for Humans. If the rest of the universe estimated Humans based off of Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha they'd be way off.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:03 pm

When he blew up Planet Vejiita he looked exactly like he did in the early Namek episodes. I'm guessing at least in his 50s. Referring to human anatomy, men from their late 20's to early 40's dont change in their physical appearance that much. By their early 50's they do start to change though. But then again, its Toriyama people, it doesnt have to make sense for it to be believable.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:21 pm

Is "Changeling" an official term? The only reason I said "Freeza's Race" instead was because I thought "Changeling" was made up by a fan.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:38 pm

I've never heard of "Changling" before. I thought he was an icejin.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:53 pm

Zackarotto wrote:Oh, and more about Freeza's race. We only assume there are 3 of them, right? Is there a chance that they have a whole planet somewhere, and King Cold's family was just in a position of money and power? Overall, the species might be only slightly stronger than others.

"What is Freeza really, I mean, what type of species?..."-Joshua Dare, New York
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"There aren't many of them, but perhaps they are a new hybrid species that came into existence from an accidental spontaneous mutation in our grandfather's time...."-Akira Toriyama

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:23 pm

I think the term Changeling was said by Akira Toriyama in an interview...

....or was it?

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:39 pm

When you say changeling, it sounds like he's some sort of shapeshifter. He transformed to become stronger.

Super Saiyan Knuckles · Post by **Super Saiyan Knuckles** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:16 am

Zackarotto wrote:Is "Changeling" an official term? The only reason I said "Freeza's Race" instead was because I thought "Changeling" was made up by a fan.

I've always wondered that, too. Bibidi, Babidi, and Majin Buu were Majins, and they made others part Majin (I doubt Yalkon was always that way, and I know Dabura wasn't), but I was never sure about Freeza's species. Considering the "Freeza's family is overpowered" theory could be true, than perhaps Zarbon's a changling? They don't have to have the same colors, do they?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:21 am

Not sure if Changeling was ever offically used, but I know that Ice-jin is a 100% fan term.

And actually, Super Sonic, if you go by what Freeza says, he transformed to become WEAKER, not stronger. That idea is forgotten quickly though, but Freeza states that his 4th form is actually his true form, the others were created to contain his vast power. Hence, he changed to them out of his own want to do so.

Of course, his father and his brother kind of screw up that whole idea... but I think by the time Toriyama-sama got to King Cold he'd forgotten about it and just changed it to transformations....

'lo Legends · Post by **'lo Legends** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:41 am

Also, I've always thought Freeza to be stronger than King Cold. Is he? Or is he weaker?

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:24 am

Well, Cold says his son is the strongest in the universe at one point, doesn't he?

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:31 am

Tenshinhan thought there was a stronger Ki than Freeza's, I believe, but Freeza wasn't at 100%.
First, Gohan says "This is nothing! He can get way stronger than this!"
And his body was rather small. Obviously not at 100% at the moment.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:32 am

Not sure. I know the Z-Fighters sense Freeza and 'Someone even stronger'.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:50 am

Majin is just a term for a devil or demon posessed isnt it? Anyway I dont think there's any official term for Freeza's race, at least its never mentioned. I really wish we couldve seen more of Freeza's race. I wouldve loved to see Cooler in his first form.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:19 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Freeza wasn't at 100%.

Do we know that King Cold was, though?

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