DBZ just isn't the same...

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:01 pm

Don't get all sensitive. This whole thread is about disrespecting Falconer's score. So why shouldn't I be able to put in my two cents?

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:03 pm

Dragon Ball Z isn't the same with Falcon's score. It gives off a different mood and feel to the show, regardless of whether or not you like that feel more or less than the original.

It is up to the viewer to decide which mood they prefer.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:06 pm

Kroni_Hunter wrote:Don't get all sensitive. This whole thread is about disrespecting Falconer's score. So why shouldn't I be able to put in my two cents?

Because Falcouners score isn't the original, you wouldn't have anywhere to put that score if it wasn't for the show being produced by people who thought the original score fit the best.

It's like me ordering a signature sandwich and saying "oh no fuck you guys take off the lettuce and the meat and add some Jelly Beans and sprinkles." It's just a complete lack of regard for what was already there. If you don't like the signature sandwich that's fine don't order it but don't go there and tell the sandwich makers how much their world famous sandwiches suck and how they should follow your recipe because a small percentage of your friends like it. Just shut up and order something else off the menu.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:09 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
Kroni_Hunter wrote:Don't get all sensitive. This whole thread is about disrespecting Falconer's score. So why shouldn't I be able to put in my two cents?
Because Falcouners score isn't the original, you wouldn't have anywhere to put that score if it wasn't for the show being produced by people who thought the original score fit the best.

It's like me ordering a signature sandwich and saying "oh no fuck you guys take off the lettuce and the meat and add some Jelly Beans and sprinkles." It's just a complete lack of regard for what was already there. If you don't like the signature sandwich that's fine don't order it but don't go there and tell the sandwich makers how much their world famous sandwiches suck and how they should follow your recipe because a small percentage of your friends like it. Just shut up and order something else off the menu.

Well then I guess Jamba Juice sucks ass since they took their idea from Orange Julius...That's really a senseless arguement. I shouldn't have to love everything that comes from the original just because it came from the original. DBZ isn't some person I have to bow down and respect, it's a kids tv show and I can point out things I don't like about it if I want to.

A lot of the posters in this thread have certainly pointed out things that don't like about Falconer. Stop being an elitist and saying you're version is better and therefore it's not allowed to be criticized.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:11 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:It's like me ordering a signature sandwich and saying "oh no fuck you guys take off the lettuce and the meat and add some Jelly Beans and sprinkles." It's just a complete lack of regard for what was already there.

As long as you pay for your sandwich, I don't think the store will care.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:12 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:It's like me ordering a signature sandwich and saying "oh no fuck you guys take off the lettuce and the meat and add some Jelly Beans and sprinkles." It's just a complete lack of regard for what was already there.
As long as you pay for your sandwich, I don't think the store will care.

Danmit Rocketman work with me here I already committed to the sandwich metaphor and I have to keep going with it.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:13 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:It's like me ordering a signature sandwich and saying "oh no fuck you guys take off the lettuce and the meat and add some Jelly Beans and sprinkles." It's just a complete lack of regard for what was already there.
As long as you pay for your sandwich, I don't think the store will care.
Danmit Rocketman work with me here I already committed to the sandwich metaphor and I have to keep going with it.

I hate Faulconer's score but there are very few places where I'll buy a sandwhich if they won't let me ask them to hold or add some ingredient.

It's not a good metaphor.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:14 pm

Kroni_Hunter wrote:
Well then I guess Jamba Juice sucks ass since they took their idea from Orange Julius...That's really a senseless arguement. I shouldn't have to love everything that comes from the original just because it came from the original. DBZ isn't some person I have to bow down and respect, it's a kids tv show and I can point out things I don't like about it if I want to.

A lot of the posters in this thread have certainly pointed out things that don't like about Falconer. Stop being an elitist and saying you're version is better and therefore it's not allowed to be criticized.

Okay fine if you want to listen to your chessy synth music then go ahead. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The original score is used throughout the world for the most part and America is the one country that thought we had to kiddify the music and make it nonstop. If that's the kind of shit you want to connect yourself with be my guest.

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: I hate Faulconer's score but there are very few places where I'll buy a sandwhich if they won't let me ask them to hold or add some ingredient.

It's not a good metaphor.

Okay fuck it forget about sandwiches.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:14 pm

Eh... Arbys' Market Fresh Sandwiches are pretty tasty, so I want that lettuce.

Metalwario64 wrote:Dragon Ball Z isn't the same with Falcon's score. It gives off a different mood and feel to the show, regardless of whether or not you like that feel more or less than the original.

It is up to the viewer to decide which mood they prefer.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:18 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
Kroni_Hunter wrote:
Well then I guess Jamba Juice sucks ass since they took their idea from Orange Julius...That's really a senseless arguement. I shouldn't have to love everything that comes from the original just because it came from the original. DBZ isn't some person I have to bow down and respect, it's a kids tv show and I can point out things I don't like about it if I want to.

A lot of the posters in this thread have certainly pointed out things that don't like about Falconer. Stop being an elitist and saying you're version is better and therefore it's not allowed to be criticized.
Okay fine if you want to listen to your chessy synth music then go ahead. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The original score is used throughout the world for the most part and America is the one country that thought we had to kiddify the music and make it nonstop. If that's the kind of shit you want to connect yourself with be my guest.

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: I hate Faulconer's score but there are very few places where I'll buy a sandwhich if they won't let me ask them to hold or add some ingredient.

It's not a good metaphor.
Okay fuck it forget about sandwiches.

I respectfully disagree with your opinion. One thing that has always bothered me about this forum is it's bitter attitude towards dub fans or criticisms of the original version. I didn't start posting with a stick up my butt, but when I get attitudes like that for just stating my opinion, it makes me think certain people in daizex are elitist and stuck up.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:22 pm

I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

The dub score puts off the same vibe as a 12 year old trying to act like a "gangsta" it's not intimidating, it's not cool it just looks silly. The only person who would respect that attitude or think it's awesome are other 12 year olds.

Of course that's just my opinion maaaaan.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:27 pm

lol, well i like both kinds of music, I play several different instruments actually.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:27 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

The dub score puts off the same vibe as a 12 year old trying to act like a "gangsta" it's not intimidating, it's not cool it just looks silly. The only person who would respect that attitude or think it's awesome are other 12 year olds.

Of course that's just my opinion maaaaan.

Yeah, but he's entitled to his own opinion as well (regardless of how serious you take it). Lord knows, I agree with your assessment, but that's no need to jump down his throat.

Debate the opinion, don't attack the opinion-holder. There is a difference.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:29 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

The dub score puts off the same vibe as a 12 year old trying to act like a "gangsta" it's not intimidating, it's not cool it just looks silly. The only person who would respect that attitude or think it's awesome are other 12 year olds.

Of course that's just my opinion maaaaan.
Yeah, but he's entitled to his own opinion as well (regardless of how serious you take it). Lord knows, I agree with your assessment, but that's no need to jump down his throat.

Debate the opinion, don't attack the opinion-holder. There is a difference.

I didn't think I was attacking anyone but sorry if I was. I suppose I get too passionate in arguments.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:44 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:I didn't think I was attacking anyone but sorry if I was. I suppose I get too passionate in arguments.

I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

That sort of thing seems to be slamming the person you're responding to. At least that's how it reads.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:46 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:I didn't think I was attacking anyone but sorry if I was. I suppose I get too passionate in arguments.
I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

That sort of thing seems to be slamming the person you're responding to.

Does it? I honestly think no reasonable person can think some old fat dude banging his fists on a synthesizer is much higher quality music then an orchestra. Or maybe I should I say I have no idea where they are coming from.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:47 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.

Uhh Falcouner wasn't the only one who did the dub score.

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:49 pm

Raki wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.
Uhh Falcouner wasn't the only one who did the dub score.

He was the primary composer though.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:59 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
Raki wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone who says
old fat guy slamming on a synthesizer> full blown orchestra for 90% of the score seriously at all.
Uhh Falcouner wasn't the only one who did the dub score.
He was the primary composer though.

Yeah..."composer".

Seriously, Faulconer didn't do jack on the music. It was all Scott Morgan and Mike Smith.

Besides, it's all opinion based. If someone wants to think that, then it's fine. No need to over exaggerate things, I mean, I could post a similar comment and say; Electronic Music>Old Japanese guy waving his orchestra thing around

Freeza.exe · Post by **Freeza.exe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:05 pm

Big Boss wrote: I mean, I could post a similar comment and say; Electronic Music>Old Japanese guy waving his stick around

Old Japanese men waving their sticks around isn't a form of music last time I checked.