English Dragon Box Release

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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:52 pm

I'm probably not going to buy this, I'm a bad fan. I just want to buy so many other anime and I already own this show. Maybe some time in the future but I don't know if I'll pick this up ASAP. I just think anime I don't own already should take priority.
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Post by Son Wukong » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:10 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote:I don't know if this was posted, but this is the trailer that was in Otakon.

The one in FUNimation's blog is unviewable from outside USA, but someone uploaded it on his channel for non-American viewers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6toHb9 ... re=related
Except for some maniac shouting non-stop, did anyone else notice the way this trailer was presented didn’t have the usual FUNimatin atmosphere around it? The lack of (hard)rock music is quite refreshing.

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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:29 pm

How many Dragonboxs are expected to be released by Funimation? Just wondering, it seems they are giving more episodes than the Japanese releases.
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Post by Eddie » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:31 pm

7 sets for Z. No confirmation on DB, GT, or a movie set, but they do have the 13 Z movies.

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Post by SSVegetto » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:03 pm

Um, is there is a reason why there are so many people pre-ordering the Dragon box sets? I mean, I'm sure when it comes out you can go to Walmart and it will be $55 in the store. Do you get an extra gift with the Dragon box if you pre-order it? Is that why. I heard there was a booklet, but doesn't that booklet come with it even if you buy it in stores?

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Post by KaiserNeko » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:05 pm

SSVegetto wrote:Um, is there is a reason why there are so many people pre-ordering the Dragon box sets? I mean, I'm sure when it comes out you can go to Walmart and it will be $55 in the store. Do you get an extra gift with the Dragon box if you pre-order it? Is that why. I heard there was a booklet, but doesn't that booklet come with it even if you buy it in stores?
A lot of places give you a discount if you pre-order, first off. Second, people want to show their eager support for a release they've been demanding forever. Third, some people just want it as soon as possible!
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Post by dragonfist » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:06 pm

You know RighStuf had a deal a few weeks back where you could get 40% on all FUNimation DVDs. With it the Dragonbox was $47.99 with free shipping in the US. That's why I did! 8)

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:08 pm

SSVegetto wrote:Um, is there is a reason why there are so many people pre-ordering the Dragon box sets? I mean, I'm sure when it comes out you can go to Walmart and it will be $55 in the store. Do you get an extra gift with the Dragon box if you pre-order it? Is that why. I heard there was a booklet, but doesn't that booklet come with it even if you buy it in stores?
I don't necessarily have a Wal-Mart near me and I have no desire to give that company my money.

I'm guaranteed the highest I will pay will be ~$55 and it gets shipped to me for free, and because I have an Amazon warehouse near me, I'll probably get it the day after release.

Not sure why this would even be a question or concern for you.
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Post by Eddie » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:15 pm

There hasn't been any word on Wal-Mart having the DBox. People probably just want to know that they'll get it. I work at a Wal-Mart, so I've seen some of what they do with sets like this. If it really does come with a book, we may not sell it, or possibly only sell it online. Nice DVDs or games that come with these sort of extras (FFVII: AC Collector's Edition & Street Fighter IV Special Edition, for example) are sometimes sold this way. That's not to say your local Wal-Mart won't get it. Just keep in mind that there hasn't been any confirmation yet.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:19 pm

Walmart doesn't carry much anime, only Naruto, Bleach, Pokemon, and Dragon Ball. But they love Dragon Ball. I don't think there has been a single Dragon Ball DVD release that hasn't been on Wal-Mart's shelves. I don't see why this is any different. Plus, FUNimation says it will be on the shelves of all major retailers.

I don't know about Wal-Marts in other parts of the country, but this is the way it is near me. I live in one town over from the home office. There is literally a super-center around every corner in my area. We don't have much of an option in where to shop.

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Post by SSVegetto » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:26 pm

It is a concern for me, because I want to know if I get any extras by preordering it. If rightstuf had that sale and it was $47.99. Then I can't get that now can I?

Why wouldn't the extra be packed in the set now?

Now I'm confused. It's $80 from $50, that 40% sale was kind of a rip off anyways. They went from retail $80 to $47.99. Which is what Amazon almost did automatically, they brought down the price from $80 to $55 without saying it is 40% off. What rightstuff should have done was went $50 to down to $30. That 40% off sale was a scam. They did that with Dragonball Season 1. $50 to $30, even though they know it would go down to $30 when it hits retail anyways.

Also why is Walmart a bad company? They sell prescription drugs at a extremely low price compared to any one else.

Also, my main concern is now I'm really confused as to why you are saying the pre ordering people will get the extras, but the retail stores wont. That doesn't make any sense. Before it wasn't mentioned. What is going on here? Also, Funimation didn't say oh you won't get this if you don't pre order this. Now you got me all worried.

Plus, I don't even have a credit card for this kind of crap. Amazon flat out refuses PayPal like it's Satan or something. And now I can't even get the price from Rightstuf, and now I'm possibly going to lose an extra?

Innagadadavida wrote:Walmart doesn't carry much anime, only Naruto, Bleach, Pokemon, and Dragon Ball. But they love Dragon Ball. I don't think there has been a single Dragon Ball DVD release that hasn't been on Wal-Mart's shelves. I don't see why this is any different. Plus, FUNimation says it will be on the shelves of all major retailers.

I don't know about Wal-Marts in other parts of the country, but this is the way it is near me. I live in one town over from the home office. There is literally a super-center around every corner in my area. We don't have much of an option in where to shop.
Well, if that guy works from Walmart, he has no idea what he is talking about then. They have tons of Anime in Walmart. And the dbz boxsets were like $20 each. Only question remains, he is acting like Walmart isn't going to get it. Even though he works at Walmart. He should know something.

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Post by Eddie » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:44 pm

I never said Wal-Mart wasn't getting it. We may not, due to the fact that we don't always sell DVDs that come with books. Most stores didn't carry FFVII:AC CE for example. It came in a larger box that takes extra shelf space and didn't have the mass market appeal the 2 disc SE had. Wal-Mart VERY WELL MAY HAVE IT THOUGH. Oh, and I'm not the one who said Wal-Mart only carries the big 4. I work in a relatively small area with a tiny group of anime fans and we've stocked several other series, like Death Note, Blood Plus, and Hunter X Hunter. If any local retailers stock it, I see know reason why it wouldn't have the extras, either.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 pm

SSVegetto wrote:It is a concern for me, because I want to know if I get any extras by preordering it. If rightstuf had that sale and it was $47.99. Then I can't get that now can I?

Why wouldn't the extra be packed in the set now?

Now I'm confused. It's $80 from $50, that 40% sale was kind of a rip off anyways. They went from retail $80 to $47.99. Which is what Amazon almost did automatically, they brought down the price from $80 to $55 without saying it is 40% off. What rightstuff should have done was went $50 to down to $30. That 40% off sale was a scam. They did that with Dragonball Season 1. $50 to $30, even though they know it would go down to $30 when it hits retail anyways.

Also why is Walmart a bad company? They sell prescription drugs at a extremely low price compared to any one else.

Also, my main concern is now I'm really confused as to why you are saying the pre ordering people will get the extras, but the retail stores wont. That doesn't make any sense. Before it wasn't mentioned. What is going on here? Also, Funimation didn't say oh you won't get this if you don't pre order this. Now you got me all worried.

Plus, I don't even have a credit card for this kind of crap. Amazon flat out refuses PayPal like it's Satan or something. And now I can't even get the price from Rightstuf, and now I'm possibly going to lose an extra?
This... seems.... well, quite frankly, like a rather unintelligible stream-of-consciousness rant.

The point of a sale is that it's a limited-time event. You missed the RightStuf sale? Wow, that sucks. Too bad...? I dunno what to tell you.

How is the RightStuf sale a "scam"? RightStuf doesn't have the retail distribution power of a Wal-Mart or a Target, and therefore doesn't have the same kind of margins on their product sales. Therefore, the prices are going to be different. Welcome to the real world where things may cost different prices at different places. This just seems like crazy nonsense you're spewing.

You don't even have a credit card? Why does any of this stuff matter to you, then? You can't even partake.

No-one has said anything about any extras either being included or not included with online-retailer-specific pre-orders. You're making up crazy scenarios in your head again. Even if this was a case like a lot of Japanese releases (where the first-pressing pre-orders get a bonus like a poster), that stuff is usually listed ahead of time and you know if you're going to pre-order or not.
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Post by SSVegetto » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:04 pm

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SSVegetto wrote:It is a concern for me, because I want to know if I get any extras by preordering it. If rightstuf had that sale and it was $47.99. Then I can't get that now can I?

Why wouldn't the extra be packed in the set now?

Now I'm confused. It's $80 from $50, that 40% sale was kind of a rip off anyways. They went from retail $80 to $47.99. Which is what Amazon almost did automatically, they brought down the price from $80 to $55 without saying it is 40% off. What rightstuff should have done was went $50 to down to $30. That 40% off sale was a scam. They did that with Dragonball Season 1. $50 to $30, even though they know it would go down to $30 when it hits retail anyways.

Also why is Walmart a bad company? They sell prescription drugs at a extremely low price compared to any one else.

Also, my main concern is now I'm really confused as to why you are saying the pre ordering people will get the extras, but the retail stores wont. That doesn't make any sense. Before it wasn't mentioned. What is going on here? Also, Funimation didn't say oh you won't get this if you don't pre order this. Now you got me all worried.

Plus, I don't even have a credit card for this kind of crap. Amazon flat out refuses PayPal like it's Satan or something. And now I can't even get the price from Rightstuf, and now I'm possibly going to lose an extra?
This... seems.... well, quite frankly, like a rather unintelligible stream-of-consciousness rant.

The point of a sale is that it's a limited-time event. You missed the RightStuf sale? Wow, that sucks. Too bad...? I dunno what to tell you.

How is the RightStuf sale a "scam"? RightStuf doesn't have the retail distribution power of a Wal-Mart or a Target, and therefore doesn't have the same kind of margins on their product sales. Therefore, the prices are going to be different. Welcome to the real world where things may cost different prices at different places. This just seems like crazy nonsense you're spewing.

You don't even have a credit card? Why does any of this stuff matter to you, then? You can't even partake.

No-one has said anything about any extras either being included or not included with online-retailer-specific pre-orders. You're making up crazy scenarios in your head again. Even if this was a case like a lot of Japanese releases (where the first-pressing pre-orders get a bonus like a poster), that stuff is usually listed ahead of time and you know if you're going to pre-order or not.
Alright, maybe it's not a scam. But certainly something to kind of trick you into thinking you are saving lots of money. They took the price from $80 and that is were the 40% off came from. When Amazon themselves automatically went down that much. Just like when the season sets came out. It went from $50 to $30. And rightstuff had you enter a coupon code or what not. Kind of pointless?

It's kind of like what Best Buy did when they had their 50% off sale for Anime. And when they sold the Dbz season sets. It still cost people $25 for Dbz season 1. When at Walmart it was $20 for season 1 sets.

The whole idea is to get people thinking they are saving lots of money, when they really aren't.

But you made a fair point, I wont jump to conclusions, I will just wait and see what happens to see when they will let us know about this extra book. The whole idea is I don't want to rush in and pre order this thing unless some people are doing it for an advantage.

And if it's totally necessary, then I will have to use my parents credit card. And I hate asking them for the credit card.

Eddie wrote:I never said Wal-Mart wasn't getting it. We may not, due to the fact that we don't always sell DVDs that come with books. Most stores didn't carry FFVII:AC CE for example. It came in a larger box that takes extra shelf space and didn't have the mass market appeal the 2 disc SE had. Wal-Mart VERY WELL MAY HAVE IT THOUGH.
Alright, thanks for letting me know. I'm just assuming the book is an extra. I guess I'm jumping to conclusions, sorry. It could still be fitted into the spine casing? Who knows?

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Post by laserkid » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:45 pm

Because spending $25 over what was $50 isn't a sale at all. :roll:

Walmart is fun, and I adore my Walmart for grocery shopping and the rare occasion they have a DVD or videogame I'd like to have. It's convenient for a one stop shop. I'll be the first to tell you I flat out don't get the Walmart hate.

But, Walmart doesn't carry a huge stock of DVDs either in depth of what they have, nor in large list of titles. Sure, Best Buy even with a half off sale was five dollars more then Walmart. But at least with Best Buy if I buy a defective DVD I know I can get a replacement.

Why do I say this? Back in 2004 or so when the first DVD set for the 1980s He Man and the Masters of the Universe came out I found it at Walmart when taking my grocery run. The set was defective. No problem, here's a second set. Oh look, that set is also defective...rinse repeat 4 times, and they ran out of disks, but because this was an opened set they refused to refund me because I might have DVD R copied the set. So I had to wait three weeks before they restocked and got me a set that worked.

That doesn't mean I hate Walmart, I still get my groceries there, and I still pick up random videogames and movies there. But there is no way in hell I'm going to try to buy a limited release like the Dragon Box there with their policies, as I'm liable to end up not able to get my set replaced should it turn out defective.
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Post by fps_anth » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:45 pm

SSVegetto wrote: The whole idea is to get people thinking they are saving lots of money, when they really aren't.
The retail price for Dragon Box Season One is ~$80. I got mine for $50 on Rightstuf. If that isn't saving a lot of money, I don't know what is :?

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Post by russ869 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:28 pm

Son Wukong wrote: Except for some maniac shouting non-stop, did anyone else notice the way this trailer was presented didn’t have the usual FUNimatin atmosphere around it? The lack of (hard)rock music is quite refreshing.
That's because it was apparently heavily based off of one of the Japanese commercial for the Dragonbox. If you look at Kanzentai's Youtube channel you can find a Japanese commercial that looks almost just like it.

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Son Wukong wrote: Except for some maniac shouting non-stop, did anyone else notice the way this trailer was presented didn’t have the usual FUNimatin atmosphere around it? The lack of (hard)rock music is quite refreshing.
That's because it was apparently heavily based off of one of the Japanese commercial for the Dragonbox. If you look at Kanzentai's Youtube channel you can find a Japanese commercial that looks almost just like it.
They even use the exact same red text effects!
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Post by russ869 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:52 pm

B wrote:At the end of the day, this is all about the selling point of these sets, the video quality, not being tampered with. If you can fit three dubs on there without damage, who cares? However, if you can't... the fabrication should be cut. I'm having trouble understanding why people don't care about this. Looking awesome is the whole point of the DRAGONBOX.
That's exactly it. I don't think we should freak out just yet. I've had experience authoring DVDs, and I've seen the kind of space that's left over on some Funimation DVDs. So my guess is that they could fit on 3 audio tracks and keep lossless quality (I mean without losing anything from if they had only 1 or 2 audio tracks), particularly if they were all stereo tracks which take up a lot less space compared to 5 channel surround tracks.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:07 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:I'm probably not going to buy this, I'm a bad fan. I just want to buy so many other anime and I already own this show. Maybe some time in the future but I don't know if I'll pick this up ASAP. I just think anime I don't own already should take priority.
Actually, that is how I feel...

I hope everyone doesn't blame me if the sales are too low! :(
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