English Dragon Box Release

Ultimate DBZ · Post by **Ultimate DBZ** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:00 am

Rory wrote:
Ultimate DBZ wrote:One more thing. All you guys do is complain complain complain about FUNimation. I bet after the Dragon Box is realesed, people are going to complain that we don't have Dragon Ball Kai.
Because whether you like it or not, FUNimation has been fucking abysmal when it comes to Dragonball releases. Whether it be poorly encoded DVDs, or cropped "remasters" or cancelled DVD released (mid "season" mind you), FUNimation has treated Dragonball as if it were a joke. Yes, we're getting the Dragon Box. Yes, that's good, but does it redeem FUNimation's horrible track record? I don't think so, it's been over a decade of abuse. So I think you'll find we have every right to complain.

OH MY GOD! PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING AGAIN! AND WHATS WORSE? People got what they wanted, Dragon Box, in 4:3, with original Box Art, they're getting the DB Season Sets in Fullscreen, they did they're giving us exactly what Toei gave Japanese fans in Japan, and they STILL HATE FUNIMATION!

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:06 am

Ultimate DBZ wrote:
Rory wrote:
Ultimate DBZ wrote:One more thing. All you guys do is complain complain complain about FUNimation. I bet after the Dragon Box is realesed, people are going to complain that we don't have Dragon Ball Kai.
Because whether you like it or not, FUNimation has been fucking abysmal when it comes to Dragonball releases. Whether it be poorly encoded DVDs, or cropped "remasters" or cancelled DVD released (mid "season" mind you), FUNimation has treated Dragonball as if it were a joke. Yes, we're getting the Dragon Box. Yes, that's good, but does it redeem FUNimation's horrible track record? I don't think so, it's been over a decade of abuse. So I think you'll find we have every right to complain.
OH MY GOD! PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING AGAIN! AND WHATS WORSE? People got what they wanted, Dragon Box, in 4:3, with original Box Art, they're getting the DB Season Sets in Fullscreen, they did they're giving us exactly what Toei gave Japanese fans in Japan, and they STILL HATE FUNIMATION!

Nobody's gotten anything yet. With Funimation, you don't know what you're getting until you have it in your DVD player. At least, as far as DBZ is concerned.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:08 am

Ultimate DBZ wrote:
Rory wrote:
Ultimate DBZ wrote:One more thing. All you guys do is complain complain complain about FUNimation. I bet after the Dragon Box is realesed, people are going to complain that we don't have Dragon Ball Kai.
Because whether you like it or not, FUNimation has been fucking abysmal when it comes to Dragonball releases. Whether it be poorly encoded DVDs, or cropped "remasters" or cancelled DVD released (mid "season" mind you), FUNimation has treated Dragonball as if it were a joke. Yes, we're getting the Dragon Box. Yes, that's good, but does it redeem FUNimation's horrible track record? I don't think so, it's been over a decade of abuse. So I think you'll find we have every right to complain.
OH MY GOD! PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING AGAIN! AND WHATS WORSE? People got what they wanted, Dragon Box, in 4:3, with original Box Art, they're getting the DB Season Sets in Fullscreen, they did they're giving us exactly what Toei gave Japanese fans in Japan, and they STILL HATE FUNIMATION!

That's like saying if somebody is a dick to you for ten years, then gives you one gift you've always wanted, would you suddenly like them? Dispite all the abuse?. Also stop caps locking, you sound like a whiney baby yourself when you do.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:09 pm

FUNimation is more like that awesome friend who's always done me right... except that one time He tripped me as a joke and made me drop something valuable and fragile... (The Way FUNi handled the Dragonball Franchise) But he's been an amazing friend from then on (The Way FUNi handled... Everything else they've ever done, ESPECIALLY One Piece)
I mean, I never forgot what he did to me that first time, I mean he TRIED to make it up to me by buying me another one, but he just went out and bought me a cheap knockoff that was falling apart from the moment I opened it (The FUNi Cropped Remastered Sets)

But now he's finally fixing that mistake by actually buying me a new one, so we're totally cool.

Wow... that went longer than I intended it to XD

Also, I've taken my feelings about the Dragon Box right now and summed them up in a drawing.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:36 pm

Rory wrote:
Ultimate DBZ wrote:
Rory wrote: Because whether you like it or not, FUNimation has been fucking abysmal when it comes to Dragonball releases. Whether it be poorly encoded DVDs, or cropped "remasters" or cancelled DVD released (mid "season" mind you), FUNimation has treated Dragonball as if it were a joke. Yes, we're getting the Dragon Box. Yes, that's good, but does it redeem FUNimation's horrible track record? I don't think so, it's been over a decade of abuse. So I think you'll find we have every right to complain.
OH MY GOD! PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING AGAIN! AND WHATS WORSE? People got what they wanted, Dragon Box, in 4:3, with original Box Art, they're getting the DB Season Sets in Fullscreen, they did they're giving us exactly what Toei gave Japanese fans in Japan, and they STILL HATE FUNIMATION!
That's like saying if somebody is a dick to you for ten years, then gives you one gift you've always wanted, would you suddenly like them? Dispite all the abuse?. Also stop caps locking, you sound like a whiney baby yourself when you do.

FUNimation is a company, not a person. All they want is your money.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote:
Ultimate DBZ wrote: OH MY GOD! PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING AGAIN! AND WHATS WORSE? People got what they wanted, Dragon Box, in 4:3, with original Box Art, they're getting the DB Season Sets in Fullscreen, they did they're giving us exactly what Toei gave Japanese fans in Japan, and they STILL HATE FUNIMATION!
That's like saying if somebody is a dick to you for ten years, then gives you one gift you've always wanted, would you suddenly like them? Dispite all the abuse?. Also stop caps locking, you sound like a whiney baby yourself when you do.
FUNimation is a company, not a person. All they want is your money.

I've been finding myself agreeing with your posts more and more lately.

Krakabeast · Post by **Krakabeast** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:02 pm

Ultimate DBZ wrote:
Krakabeast wrote:I would kill for a little bit of new news right now.

What the hell FUNi!?
What dub track will be on this thing?
What extras can we expect?
Rock the Dragon?
What the hell were you guys thinking?
The Dub tracks will be Japanese w/ English Subtitles, and most likely a Second Feature of English with Japanese BGM music and English with U.S. Brodcast Music. The Extras will most likely be simmilar to that of the japanese Dragon Box. I'm saying this because they're trying to make it as close to the Dragon Box as possible. Thats why they realesed the Dragon Box, with a Dragon Book, with the same art as the japanese Dragon Box in the same way, and why it goes strait to japanese, rather than it being on English and you have to change it to japanese. No, there most likely will not be "Rock the Dragon".

Krakabeast wrote:What the hell were you guys thinking
Well let's see, we've been asking for Dragon Box for 9 years, and they are finally giving us exactly what we want. What the hell were they thinking, giving us what we want, right?

One more thing. All you guys do is complain complain complain about FUNimation. I bet after the Dragon Box is realesed, people are going to complain that we don't have Dragon Ball Kai.

I was not complaining about the Dragon Box, it was a humorous cut-off recognizing that Rock The Dragon was a dumb idea back when they aired it. You've completely read my post in the wrong light.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:15 pm

Hey guys, aren't Funimation awesome for actually listening to us, the fans and giving us the most perfect English release?
And it's not the first time either, they've paid attention to Dragon Ball fans for many years, the Season sets just set that back a bit, but they still cared... a little

The only thing that could top this is... Hell, I dunno, Sailor Moon redubbed by them, for sure, or if Bandai suddenly got visited by the Ghost of Gundam Past and released all of the old forgotten Gundam Series.

The closer the Dragon Box gets to us, the most people whine...

isucamper · Post by **isucamper** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:34 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:Hey guys, aren't Funimation awesome for actually listening to us, the fans and giving us the most perfect English release?
And it's not the first time either, they've paid attention to Dragon Ball fans for many years, the Season sets just set that back a bit, but they still cared... a little

Yeah. They listen. Like the time they released half the Saiyan Saga on uncut DVD and then stopped so I couldn't complete the set (all while charging me 25 bucks for 3 episodes per disc).

Or that time they released those Dragonball and Dragonball Z DVDs completely out of order so nobody could watch the series from start to finish.

Or that time they released all of the original Dragonball except the first 13 episodes... and then stopped printing the ones they did release so anyone who wanted to complete their sets had to spend hundreds of dollars on ebay for out of print discs.

Or that time they cropped off 25 percent of the video on Dragonball Z and claimed you could actually see more of the original frame.

Or that time they "remastered" Z by raping the animation cells with a DNR process that obliterated any fidelity the frames had.

Or that time (those times) they were completely silent towards fans complaints while bragging about how much money they've made off of the Dragonball franchise.

Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:34 pm

I'm just waiting for some more info on the release of the DragonBox from F***imation. I want to know what the DragonBox will contain in detail. What's in the DragonBook and etc.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:45 pm

isucamper wrote:Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.

Because after Fifteen years they're FINALLY giving us the release we want?

That'd be like constantly begging your Parents to let you eat Cookies, and when they finally cave and give you the cookie, you throw a Tantrum.

What does it matter, you have your cookie, be happy with it.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 pm

isucamper wrote: Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.

Because of this.

http://www.4kidsentertainment.com/

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:06 pm

Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.

I don't think you wanna come here telling people to shut the fuck up.

FUNimation is a pretty good dubbing company but when it came to DragonBall Z yea, it was a mess. I don't think they really need to "make up" for anything. There are places in the world where companies will do a shitty dub and leave it at that. FUNimation is trying to make everyone happy now, it seems. They are totally self aware that the DragonBall Z dub was pretty bad, they joke about it at cons.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:12 pm

Why so harsh towards DBZ? Would you rather them have not picked it up and we not have the releases we do now?

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:13 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote: That's like saying if somebody is a dick to you for ten years, then gives you one gift you've always wanted, would you suddenly like them? Dispite all the abuse?. Also stop caps locking, you sound like a whiney baby yourself when you do.
FUNimation is a company, not a person. All they want is your money.

..I'm well aware, I was making a comparason, it seems pretty clear. No need to be so literal.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:15 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.
I don't think you wanna come here telling people to shut the fuck up.

Yeah. Wrong place, bro!

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Rory wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote: That's like saying if somebody is a dick to you for ten years, then gives you one gift you've always wanted, would you suddenly like them? Dispite all the abuse?. Also stop caps locking, you sound like a whiney baby yourself when you do.
FUNimation is a company, not a person. All they want is your money.
..I'm well aware, I was making a comparason, it seems pretty clear. No need to be so literal.

Yes, but everything FUNimation does is just to make money. They don't have evil or good motives behind what they do. So if they turn around and finally give you what you want, you shouldn't dwell on whatever mistakes they made in the past.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:17 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Why so harsh towards DBZ? Would you rather them have not picked it up and we not have the releases we do now?

While I do agree with you, there's always a hater for something. And I guess that's just the dub. :/

Not being rude to dub fans, though. It's a good dub and all. I just prefer the original.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:18 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:FUNimation is a company, not a person. All they want is your money.
..I'm well aware, I was making a comparason, it seems pretty clear. No need to be so literal.
Yes, but everything FUNimation does is just to make money. They don't have evil or good motives behind what they do. So if they turn around and finally give you what you want, you shouldn't dwell on whatever mistakes they made in the past.

I'm not exactly letting it effect my purchase, all I'm doing is saying people still have a right to complain, as even though they released the Dragon Box, they're hardly the god of anime releases as they still fucked us over many times with countless releases.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:19 pm

isucamper wrote:Why do you fools defend Funimation? They have a lot to make up for. If you haven't been here for the last 15 years of their bullshit, you need to stfu.

Because like it or not, DragonBall is a franchise that flourished in terrible circumstance. It came to America edited and changed under Saban, was then continued by a company that, at first, barely had any idea what it was doing with the show, and has consistently been handled in a way that would make them more and more money, as they knew it would.

Also, the reason I can defend FUNimation is because DragonBall isn't the only show from them I care about. Hell, every other show from them has been treated properly, at least. Even they know that they've constantly disregarded fans of the original. They tried giving us what we wanted when they released the DVDs with bilingual tracks, trying out a format it was practically a virgin to. Sure those DVDs sort of sucked at first, but as I said: DragonBall Z was the companys first DVD release. Of course there were going to be problems.

Worse yet, some of the people who used to be in charge, such as Barry Watson, had a goal outlined to match "American sensibilities" and had every intention of changing the show to something he thought they could make money over. Barry Watson is one of the sole reasons DragonBall Z is what it is today, in America. "You don't know GT"? All him.

But they are finally giving us what we wanted. The original people in charge of DragonBall Z (Barry Watson mainly) are no longer directing the show, and they are trying to at least give hardcore fans the option.

Too little too late? Well, perhaps for some people. We did get sort of screwed over with those remastered sets. Like, pretty badly. I can't defend their decision to basically limit the market to a flawed product. But I can't fault them for making progress now, so I'll encourage this behavior of giving us what we want instead of scolding them for some kind of consistency.

Either way, don't call us fools, newbie. ;3

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