Empower the Powerless

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:12 pm

temujin wrote:Piccolo had massive bullshit power up just to equal/surpass Goku in namek,so Tenshinhan coud have done the same, if Akira Toriyama wanted him to have more relevance.

Well, yeah, that's what I said. They'd need some massive power up just to catch before Super Saiyan was even introduced, like Piccolo had.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:19 pm

With Piccolo, I can see how he could make leaps and bounds of power with syncsand fusions AND he is Namekian so his body can handle more than a human's body as well as regeneration.

As for Yamcha and Krillin, I guess the human body can handle only so much.

Did they ever call Tien something aside from human? With that extra eye and all.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:58 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:They'd need some massive power up just to catch before Super Saiyan was even introduced, like Piccolo had.

King Kai training...

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:04 pm

Wouldnt that be too late, as they would have to die for the training?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:06 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:They'd need some massive power up just to catch before Super Saiyan was even introduced, like Piccolo had.
King Kai training...

Even if they got ten times more power from King Kai's training than Goku did, they'd be about 200,000 - less than half of Freeza's first form.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:14 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:They'd need some massive power up just to catch before Super Saiyan was even introduced, like Piccolo had.
King Kai training...

Yeah, with Kaioken and stuff, like I also said. >_>

I just think it'd be very annoying to have the Saiyans push so far ahead of the humans, and then transform to become practically infinitely stronger than them, only to have the humans come up with some training or technique to make them the thousands of times stronger they'd need to be to keep up.

For them to keep up sensibly I think a lot of the series would need to be re-written rather than just having them power up ridiculously just as they become totally obsolete. Piccolo's assimilation of Nail was BS-ish enough. He reunion with Kami was a much better way of making him stronger, since their connection is a long established plot point.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:15 pm

We can just easily say, without Goku being sent to Earth, mankind would have been screwed; as none of the Z warriors would have trained so hard to try and beat him.
True there would be no Raditz or Cell; but Majin Buu was on Earth for like 300 years before he hatched right? I rememebr a mention of 100 years, but if not no one would be strong enough to take on Buu.

And even in DB; the RR Army may have taken over the planet or King Piccolo.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:39 pm

Pilaf would have taken over the world. He wouldn't seek revenge therefore no King Piccolo.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:41 pm

Pilaf wouldnt have had all the dragonballs since he stole the ones from Goku.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:48 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Pilaf wouldnt have had all the dragonballs since he stole the ones from Goku.

Uhh... are you serious? Just because Goku wasn't there doesn't mean that the Dragon Ball suddenly disappears too.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:48 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Pilaf wouldnt have had all the dragonballs since he stole the ones from Goku.

He had a dragon radar so he could eventually find all the balls.

But without Goku, I don`t think Pilaf would have found a way to remove the Dragon Ball that was on the Ox-king castle (which was burning) and he would have trouble convincing Roshi to give him his ball.

So I think the world would be safe from pilaf.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:49 pm

He could have ordered Mai to flash her panties...

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:51 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:He could have ordered Mai to flash her panties...

Yes he could but he still had to convince Roshi to give him the ball and to put out the fire. Not impossible but still he would have to work on it. He might not be able to get all balls.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:53 pm

Either way, at THAT point, I'm sure people like Roshi or Tien or the Crane Hermit could have handled Pilaf, but not so much the RR Army.

The King Piccolo was the first 'big' villian.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:55 pm

Tienshinhan, Roshi or even Chaotzu could have destroyed the RR Army if they wanted.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:55 pm

Tien could have wrecked the RRA like Goku did.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:13 pm

Fair enough.

With Pilaf not going through al that he did against Goku during DragonBall, who knows if he would have opened Piccolo.

...So I'm going with Majin Buu killing everyone.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:15 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:He could have ordered Mai to flash her panties...

I would like to see Mai flash her panties x10 more than Bulma.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:17 pm

I'm going to stick with Bulma. She was animated better.

Although we saw he body is other clips; so sure, why not Mai.

But she WOULD have had panties on so it wouldnt have been as dramatic...or naked.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:26 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:But she WOULD have had panties on so it wouldnt have been as dramatic...or naked.

She'd wear granny panties. Mai wears a trench coat all the time so she clearly doesn't care much about her wardrobe.

Well, the real Mai. Not the DBE, hole-in-my-shirt-so-you-can-see-my-cleave, Mai.