The weirdest moment in the entire series

Undercooked Sausage · Post by **Undercooked Sausage** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:31 pm

The most bizarre part of the spray can thing is that Roshi is a master of the martial arts and Toriyama easily could have written it so Roshi used some sort of knockout chop to the back of his head or something that paralyzed him, so why the can? Strange indeed.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:11 pm

Undercooked Sausage wrote:The most bizarre part of the spray can thing is that Roshi is a master of the martial arts and Toriyama easily could have written it so Roshi used some sort of knockout chop to the back of his head or something that paralyzed him, so why the can? Strange indeed.

Tenshinhan was too strong for that.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:34 pm

rereboy wrote:
Undercooked Sausage wrote:The most bizarre part of the spray can thing is that Roshi is a master of the martial arts and Toriyama easily could have written it so Roshi used some sort of knockout chop to the back of his head or something that paralyzed him, so why the can? Strange indeed.
Tenshinhan was too strong for that.

SSJ2 Goku got KO'd by getting smacked across the head.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:41 pm

Roshi does have a hypnosis technique that makes people fall asleep. I wonder if he ever used that in his private life...

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:50 pm

Rocketman wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Undercooked Sausage wrote:The most bizarre part of the spray can thing is that Roshi is a master of the martial arts and Toriyama easily could have written it so Roshi used some sort of knockout chop to the back of his head or something that paralyzed him, so why the can? Strange indeed.
Tenshinhan was too strong for that.
SSJ2 Goku got KO'd by getting smacked across the head.

Yes, but Tenshinhan was stronger than Roshi, while SSJ2 or SSJ Vegeta was equal to SSJ 2 or SSJ Goku.

Undercooked Sausage · Post by **Undercooked Sausage** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:34 pm

At that point in the manga we don't have any clear admission or proof that Roshi is weaker than Ten, and he's certainly far more experienced and it's very easy to write in that Roshi knows some "ancient knock out chop."

Far more believable than him carrying around a gas can, that's as silly as him carrying around a gun. Ordinary items shouldn't be all that useful on the characters at that point.

verto · Post by **verto** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:40 pm

I don't understand why the gas confuses people. Its GAS. It goes into your lungs, it has nothing to do with strength.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:03 pm

verto wrote:I don't understand why the gas confuses people. Its GAS. It goes into your lungs, it has nothing to do with strength.

Exactly.

SSJ Goku might be able to blow up many planets, but he would still die in outer space because he needed to (at least) breathe.

Roshi probably used the gas because he thought it would be more effective and easier than trying to knock Tenshinhan out (since he was so strong and he might not be taken by surprise) or trying to hypnotize him which would take longer and could fail.

As for tenshinhan being stronger than Roshi at that point, I believe he was. Their fight in the manga was very short but enough to amaze Roshi and he even said afterwards that he would probably lose. And Tenshinhan didn`t even fight as hard as he did against Goku.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:10 pm

TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:This makes me think, Roshi should've used that paralyzing stuff on Daimaou, then either Mafuba or kill him.

If there were possible, then of course Roshi would've used it on Piccolo Daimao. Anyway, I doubt a can of sleeping gas would really affect such a powerful being as Piccolo Daimao. Tenshinhan would be much weaker than Piccolo at that point anyway, although it is still strange that sleeping gas would affect him, but he was stronger than Roshi. Eh, it's fiction.

Weirdest moment in the series...there are way too many to choose from. But I could go with Yamcha seeing Bulma naked when she's bathing. I mean, really, why would she bath in front of a window, in full view of anyone who was there at the time? Actually, I could just use every single excuse Toriyama has given to draw Bulma naked or with her breasts exposed in the manga, and say that was the weirdest moment in Dragon Ball.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:58 pm

That the gas affects Tien isn't what's weird. What's weird is that Roshi happened to have a canister of paralysis gas on him. It's just incredibly un-DB like.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:04 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:That the gas affects Tenshinhan isn't what's weird. What's weird is that Roshi happened to have a canister of paralysis gas on him. It's just incredibly un-DB like.

The same happened when Satan pulls a gun from nowhere and start shooting Buu with it.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:05 pm

Oh well that's Satan. It's not as unexpected from him.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:13 pm

The guy is a martial artist not a gangster.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:20 pm

Yeah, but not long ago he was a carrying a big bag full of stuff to try and destroy fat Boo with. He had bombs and stuff, a gun isn't out of the question.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:23 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:The guy is a martial artist not a gangster.

That's not what the 'fro says.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:45 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:The guy is a martial artist not a gangster.

Guns beat the hell out of any realistic form of martial arts.

xzero · Post by **xzero** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:57 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:That scene where Oolong attempts to literally drug and molest Bulma was going a bit too far for my taste. That was definitely the weirdest moment in my book.

I mean it didn't even look like a joke.

And if you think about it, Dragonball universe or not, a literal, actual pig was attempting to molest a 16 year old. It's so bizarre.

Scarz · Post by **Scarz** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:01 am

Commander_Red wrote:
Scarz wrote: And that's NOT the awkward part. He later tells Bulma "I can tell from the smell where you hid it."
Isn't that just a line from those bad scanslations? The anime subs are different.

Really? Then I'll really like to know what he said in the original Japanese manga...Hm, once I think about maybe I don't wanna know.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:08 am

Scarz wrote:Really? Then I'll really like to know what he said in the original Japanese manga...Hm, once I think about maybe I don't wanna know.

Viz says something like "I was seeing if it had a smell..." then Bulma yells at him.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:10 pm

Yeah, he sniffs it, Bulma asks what he's doing, and he says he thought it might stink. Then she yells at him.