Dragon Box to include BOTH dub tracks?

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:20 pm

How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:20 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:How many episodes per disc did the season sets have? And how much space did that take up?
Most of them had 6 episode per disc, but the first 3 discs of Season 9 had 7 eps. and they looked fantastic.
The sound quality of the Japanese score was pretty bad on the season sets though wasn't it? And I assume the cropped animation would take up less space...?

The 16:9 frame is larger than the 4:3 frame. Sure, in terms of Dragon Ball, we're losing footage, but that's only because of how it was framed. Technically speaking, widescreen frame is larger than the fullscreen frame.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:22 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:If you're really in the know about this stuff, you will see a difference. But I wouldn't be surprised if Toei kept the bitrate needlessly high just for security.

What I really want is for FUNimation to up the disc count. If only to shut people the hell up.

I'm confused, how would having a high bitrate translate to security? It's not like it makes bootlegging more difficult by any means. Plus, most R2 releases max out the bitrate, as they truly try to make the releases reference grade. It's not just Toei.

However, I do agree that FUNimation could easily silence people by adding another disc to the count. Maybe they'll surprise us by doing so, they did with the season sets after all.

-Corey

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:23 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub.

The subtitles are in English too, by the way.

MajinVejitaXV wrote:However, I do agree that FUNimation could easily silence people by adding another disc to the count. Maybe they'll surprise us by doing so, they did with the season sets after all.

Remember all that e-mailing we all did? I'm sure that... might come through, maybe.

Hopefully...

Saying the dub music fits the mood of the show is like saying the Earth is flat, it sounds crazy in this day and age.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:24 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.

The argument is that the dub music doesn't fit the intended tone of the show. Which, as much as I enjoy the dub score, is absolutely, 100% true.

Those with no nostalgic connection to the score, I can easily understand why they'd want it gone.

I'm one of those with NO nostalgic connection to the score, but enjoy it anyway for what it is. I think it's an important part of US Dragon Ball history that should be preserved. No matter how many people disliked it. I would say the same thing for an Ocean DBZ release and a GT release. And I HATE both of those dub scores.

For the record, I don't support changing music in anime dubs. It's pointless and wrong. I know I'm contradicting myself but what's done is done and I can't change it. So what the hell, let's party.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:24 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.

This was release was announced as being targeted at the people who do watch the show in Japanese, with the Japanese BGM.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:25 pm

Son Wukong wrote:W-why? No seriously, why the American dub and the Japanese music? Do people actually listen to that?

...Yes...

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:25 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:For the record, I don't support changing music in anime dubs. It's pointless. I know I'm contradicting myself but what's done is done and I can't change it.

I think I have a new quote in my sig.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:27 pm

@Inna - Well there you go; I DO have a connection with the Dub music and thats the music I prefer, as I've listened to both tracks. I like the more dramatic music.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:28 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.
This was release was announced as being targeted at the people who do watch the show in Japanese, with the Japanese BGM.

And this is the main point. Why FUNimation first announced this release as one thing, and seems to be drifting towards another (at the risk of sacrificing the end result's quality) as we get closer to the release is the main problem. I just find it somewhat amusing that the same people who basically harped on how the widescreen releases were good enough are suddenly descending on this release and claiming it for themselves as well.

-Corey

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:28 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:@Inna - Well there you go; I DO have a connection with the Dub music and thats the music I prefer, as I've listened to both tracks. I like the more dramatic music.

You just contradicted yourself, the Japanese music is the more Dramatic music... I don't see how you could mean the Faulconer music is dramatic.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:32 pm

Ok then, it's less boring and doesnt sound like some wimpy show with women shrieking at the top of their lungs.

isucamper · Post by **isucamper** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:33 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.

When I was a kid, I hated spaghetti sauce. Hated it. People would look at me weird when I asked for my spaghetti plain.

Then I grew up and I realized... spaghetti is way better with sauce. I felt like a fricken idiot when I realized this. Those adults knew what I didn't. Sometimes its good to listen and try new things

.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:33 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:I just find it somewhat amusing that the same people who basically harped on how the widescreen releases were good enough are suddenly descending on this release and claiming it for themselves as well.

Well, I guess I would be one of those that you find so amusing. I claimed in the past that I liked my season sets. I like them because they're cheap, they're consistent, and as far as I knew, they were the best option available. Something better comes along and I want it. I don't see what's wrong with that. I especially don't see what's amusing about it. I don't believe anybody with half a brain cell ever claimed that the season sets are superior to the Dragon Box. I said I liked the season sets because the Dragon Boxes were some intangible item that obtaining would be a pipe dream.

LeprikanGT wrote:Ok then, it's less boring and doesnt sound like some wimpy show with women shrieking at the top of their lungs.

Oh god, please stop. I was helping your case man, don't make me look bad.

But honestly, if that's how you feel, you might find that you're better suited at another forum.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:35 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Ok then, it's less boring and doesnt sound like some wimpy show with women shrieking at the top of their lungs.

Oh god, has the thread really sunk this low? Should I lock it?

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:35 pm

Damn, you say all of the right things, Innagadadivda.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:36 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:How about something logical. MANY people that watch DBZ in the US DONT speak Japanese so we watch the Dub...and what music was along with the DUb? The US music so thats what we are used to and thats what we like.

Wow... Talk about being conservative...

What? Are you afraid of change?

LeprikanGT wrote:@Inna - Well there you go; I DO have a connection with the Dub music and thats the music I prefer, as I've listened to both tracks. I like the more dramatic music.

...More dramatic? Are you kidding me?

Please, tell me how generic, ambient synthesized music is more "dramatic" than a powerful chorus during the scene where Krillin gets impaled by Frieza or when Vegeta dies...

Innagadadavida wrote:But honestly, if that's how you feel, you might find that you're better suited at another forum.

Nah, I'd recommend My Favorite Games, or the Atari forums.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:38 pm

Its not CHANGE to want to include the Dub on the Release. It would be change TO have the Dub in dragonbox footage.

That would be YOU being afraid of change.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:40 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Its not CHANGE to want to include the Dub on the Release. It would be change TO have the Dub in dragonbox footage.

That would be YOU being afraid of change.

No it wouldn't. Every US Dragon Ball Z release has had the dub score.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:41 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:Ok then, it's less boring and doesnt sound like some wimpy show with women shrieking at the top of their lungs.
Oh god, has the thread really sunk this low? Should I lock it?

These threads go to hell because we have people who get the feelings hurt.