Dragonball Season 1 Discussion

Mystic · Post by **Mystic** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:08 am

Thank you for the poster that pointed out that you could print out the listing for Dragonball Season 1 from Walmart.com and bring it too Best Buy & they would honor WalMarts original price. It worked and I finally got my set.

Special thanks, to whoever that was.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:35 am

I just noticed the insert songs aren't on the English track. I find it odd being it uses the Japanese background music anyway.

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:05 pm

The dub was like that back when it was first being released too. My understanding is they had trouble getting the rights to put the song in the dubbed episodes due to insert song rights being not just from the show, but the artist too in Japanese copyright law.

B · Post by B » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:55 pm

Which kinda doesn't make sense, seeing as ALL 5 of GT's themes were premade songs by Japanese artists, as opposed to DB and Z, where the openings/endings were made specifically for the show.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I'm fairly certain GT takes a page from today's anime handbook and basically finds a song that sort of fits the tone of the series, and the animation company makes an animation to go with it.

SSJ Helldog · Post by **SSJ Helldog** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:59 pm

B wrote:Which kinda doesn't make sense, seeing as ALL 5 of GT's themes were premade songs by Japanese artists, as opposed to DB and Z, where the openings/endings were made specifically for the show.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I'm fairly certain GT takes a page from today's anime handbook and basically finds a song that sort of fits the tone of the series, and the animation company makes an animation to go with it.

Toei probably had a better legal department when GT was made, and wrote up the contracts to include home video releases. Or at least by 1997 the idea of home video releases seemed less like a pipe dream.

ChibiGoku · Post by **ChibiGoku** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:06 pm

My understanding is it had to do with the materials that FUNimation got from Toei, rather than a real licencing issue. What I think is the only real licencing issue that would occur is if FUNimation tried to secure the track directly from the music licence holder in order to use the original track, since Toei didn't supply it. I know reportly Toei made a couple revisions to the film masters that they had sent out, so it could be just simply the case of FUNimation being "unlucky" to what they got with Dragon Ball.

This explains why some insert songs were left intact, while others weren't (I think only two were left in the dub as a result...? Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Dragon Ball GT's case is a little different, because Toei had sent FUNimation (and pretty much every other company) the proper material to work with. The only issue really being with the material is the lack of a full stereo audio track with the Japanese audio, which even the Dragon Box GT release is missing (but the reairings on Animax are broadcasted in Stereo...).

Krakabeast · Post by **Krakabeast** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:51 pm

I planned to hold out on this set until FUNI announced a DB Dragon Box, but I could not resist. I have not watched DB since it aired on Toonami, and it just feels like I'm reliving my childhood again. I love the nostalgia!

Also, when I purchased this I saw all of FUNI'S original releases of DB used back on the shelves. They were $21 a piece. I wanted to buy them, but they will soon be worthless, I hope. I'm confident FUNI will complete these releases, and I prey for a DB Dragon Box just to have all the episodes in one set and not five or six.

Okay, time to pop in disc two.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:56 pm

I wonder...if these sets were in widescreen and cropped out the same amount of footage that you're losing from the zooming, would people hate it?

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:59 pm

Probably.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:21 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I wonder...if these sets were in widescreen and cropped out the same amount of footage that you're losing from the zooming, would people hate it?

Yes, because I wouldn't buy them.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:38 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I wonder...if these sets were in widescreen and cropped out the same amount of footage that you're losing from the zooming, would people hate it?

The difference being, you zoom in to avoid problems on the edge of the film where glue and the materials has degraded.

While cropping to widescreen effectively does the same thing, it takes away perfectly good footage with it.

The goal of a quality home release is to come as close to the intended 'vision' that the people making the show or film had.

I can tolerate many things in a release, I won't tolerate center cut cropping.

It's a competent release done with the masters they have available, and is what was expected. Which is what most reasonable people ask for and want. Would I care for any of the dozen little issues to be fixed? Absolutely, and if they are, these sets would go up on the shelf, to likely never be seen by me again. The difference between a product done as well as possible with the available materials (and market styling) and something done in a silly, stupid, unacceptable manner, is that even if something better comes out later, these WILL be on my shelf. I can't say the same for the orange bricks, which I didn't care to purchase past set 1 out of curiosity.

The 'largest' issue that could be argued with these sets based on Funi's material is that they didn't use dual angles for the titlecards. And here's the thing. Funimation was never good with dual angles so they dropped them because having them caused issues with the video in episodes. And I'll take the much better video we've gotten since they dropped them over being able to click angle and see a static screen of Japanese text any day of the week.

SuperSaiyan3Goku · Post by **SuperSaiyan3Goku** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:01 pm

I was at Wal-Mart earlier today, not a sight of Dragonball Season 1. Was it too damn popular that it sold out in the first week? Or does that Wal-Mart just not get stocked that often?

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:06 pm

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:I was at Wal-Mart earlier today, not a sight of Dragonball Season 1. Was it too damn popular that it sold out in the first week? Or does that Wal-Mart just not get stocked that often?

Walmart doesn't sell it in stores right now. I asked the FUNi rep on Twitter and she said she had a word with the guy in their retail dept. Retail says Walmart will start carrying it on October 5th.

No reason was given.

Shiyonasan · Post by **Shiyonasan** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:16 am

So I watched the first disc of this today.

Until today, I never realized that Oolong was only a kid when he first shows up.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:26 am

Shiyonasan wrote:So I watched the first disc of this today.

Until today, I never realized that Oolong was only a kid when he first shows up.

Didn't know he had a penis, either.
Which is weird...because Toriyama didn't give Pu'ar one.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:28 am

Yeah I was surprised to see Oolong's little piggie hanging out when he transformed into a bat. It seemed unnecessary but then again, a lot of stuff in Dragon Ball in unnecessary.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:03 am

I think I've come to the conclusion that Toriyama is a pedophile.

Yeah! It all makes sense now! And him giving baby pigs penis'? Pfft, forget about it!

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm

Big Boss wrote:I think I've come to the conclusion that Toriyama is a pedophile.

Yeah! It all makes sense now! And him giving baby pigs penis'? Pfft, forget about it!

If anything should lead you to that conclusion, it's not a little pigs weewee, it's 12-year-old Chi-Chi's daily attire.

He probably drew Oolong with a penis because it would make children laugh to see that. Just like how kids laugh when the see Spongebob's bare butt.

hudemx · Post by **hudemx** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:16 pm

Innagadadavida wrote: He probably drew Oolong with a penis because it would make children laugh to see that.

Yeah, that's what he wants you to believe

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:19 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:He probably drew Oolong with a penis because it would make children laugh to see that. Just like how kids laugh when the see Spongebob's bare butt.

Really, that makes children laugh? Never come across that before...