If a Z fighter were to appear in a different anime...

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:00 am

If a Z fighter were to appear in a different anime, like Naruto, Bleach, FMA, etc, how powerful would they be in comparison? The first conclusion most people might reach is they would own everyone, but can we be so sure?

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:08 am

WARNING: This topic will selfdestruct if handeled carlessly.

A Dragon Ball character will own Naruto characters with a blast, have some time with One Piece characters, and might have some challenge with a BLEACH character.

But against a Hokuto No Ken character? just keep your distance or you'll be dead before you know it.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:12 am

Obviously, it would depend on which character and which series.

The Xingese characters in Fullmetal Alchemist can already sense "ki", maybe somebody like Goku could teach them how to fire a Kamehameha.

(Like the Xingese aren't already borderline overpowered.)

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:18 am

Well, Goku would be the best candidate for comparison, since he's the powerhouse, but I'm thinkin even Yamcha would be more than a challenge for most other anime characters.

B · Post by B » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:48 am

Any Bleach character could kill any DB character, because they're invisible.

But yeah, Freeza can blow up planets, and we have tons of characters in Dragon Ball stronger than him, so...

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:20 am

The Tenchi Muyo! OVA universe would seem to be a good choice. Characters there range from around Raditz strength all the way up to 'whoops I destroyed the universe' level. That's what happens when you have literal gods running around doing whatever they want.

Dare I mention Gurren Lagann? Completely off the scale. It's in the same kind of league as Tenchi Muyo!, with the characters and mecha bending reality itself to their will.

Speaking of godlike mecha, how about Evangelion? AT Fields would probably be a problem for a lot of the characters. Assuming they couldn't cancel it out with their own auras in the way an AT Field can cancel an AT Field, it would take something like a beam with power equal to Japan's maximum power output to pierce even a normal one. Any planet busting character could no doubt pull this off. Fighting an Eva could be comparable to fighting an Oozaru, with armor that can survive a nuclear blast.

Zoalord level characters from Guyver might put up a good fight. They've been known to deflect planet threatening attacks (more like a meteor than a beam or anything) and survive black holes. It's hard to say if they'd have the speed to match a Dragon Ball character.

One Piece probably has some characters that could be trouble. Devil Fruit powers certainly make things more complicated. For a start, how can even Goku fight someone who can turn into fire, smoke or electricity at will? As strong as they are, Dragon Ball characters have been caught off guard by strange abilities like this before. Even Gurd was trouble for Kuririn and Gohan.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:54 am

Bussani wrote: One Piece probably has some characters that could be trouble. Devil Fruit powers certainly make things more complicated. For a start, how can even Goku fight someone who can turn into fire, smoke or electricity at will? As strong as they are, Dragon Ball characters have been caught off guard by strange abilities like this before. Even Gurd was trouble for Kuririn and Gohan.

By disintegrating them before they even notice them

Dragon Ball characters range from perfectly powered to mindbogglingly overpowered. A character like Raditz or Nappa is pretty much all there is needed to defeat all One Piece, Naruto and Bleach characters.
Manga like YuYuHakusho, Bastard!!, Shaman King, Hokuto no Ken, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, Tenchi Muyo and a few more obliterates DBZ whereas everyone else stands a slim chance.

B · Post by B » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 am

Bleach characters are INVISIBLE, Shoryuken. They don't have to perform a sneak attack or anything; they can just reap Nappa's soul.

Forgive me if I may be wrong in my assertation, but you seem to be lumping Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach together because they are all running currently with each other, are easily the three most popular Jump titles at this very moment, and are "in."

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:06 am

B wrote:Bleach characters are INVISIBLE, Shoryuken. They don't have to perform a sneak attack or anything; they can just reap Nappa's soul.

Are they intangible?

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:32 pm

Let's remember that Yamcha defeated an invisible opponent before the 22nd tournament. Invisibility alone isn't much; intangibility? Invisibility to ki-sensing (that seems unlikely in the case of Bleech)?

Several years ago someone said that Dark Schneider (from Bastard!?) Vs. Goku was something of a trick question, as Dark Schneider could apparently will himself back to life and destroy universes by flying past them. I've never seen anything to substantiate this, but I haven't looked all that hard either.
The same person mensioned another series whose cast was between SSJ4 Goku and Dark Schneider, but I don't recall what (and it'd take some effort to track down this exchange).
He "cited" a list from gamefaqs, though. Do with that what you will. ^^;

I'd be interested to see some of the DB/Z cast in The World ala .Hack//Sign... completely different playingfield. Heh.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:37 pm

caejones wrote:destroy universes by flying past them

OH COME ON

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:19 pm

B wrote:Bleach characters are INVISIBLE, Shoryuken. They don't have to perform a sneak attack or anything; they can just reap Nappa's soul.

Forgive me if I may be wrong in my assertation, but you seem to be lumping Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach together because they are all running currently with each other, are easily the three most popular Jump titles at this very moment, and are "in."

Once again the old they-are-only-visible-to-people-who-can-see-and-sense-ghosts-card is played. Things like that are out of the question when you've got the mafuba.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:20 pm

B wrote:Bleach characters are INVISIBLE, Shoryuken. They don't have to perform a sneak attack or anything; they can just reap Nappa's soul.

Forgive me if I may be wrong in my assertation, but you seem to be lumping Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach together because they are all running currently with each other, are easily the three most popular Jump titles at this very moment, and are "in."

Once again the old they-are-only-visible-to-people-who-can-see-and-sense-ghosts-card is played. Things like that are out of the question when you've got the mafuba.

Rocketman wrote:
caejones wrote:destroy universes by flying past them
OH COME ON

Caejones is right.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:36 pm

Shoryuken wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
caejones wrote:destroy universes by flying past them
OH COME ON
Caejones is right.

Or rather, the person that I was paraphrasing is right. ^_^
Though yeah, that sounds like BS even by Marvel/DC standards...

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:51 pm

caejones wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:
Rocketman wrote: OH COME ON
Caejones is right.
Or rather, the person that I was paraphrasing is right. ^_^
Though yeah, that sounds like BS even by Marvel/DC standards...

Dark Schneider does have the destructive power to do so.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:55 pm

Well, going with Naruto, their raw power may fade in comparision to say, Goku's, BUT, imagine the Makengou (spelling?) Sharingan genjutsu on Goku's brain. He would be in a coma in no time.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:59 pm

Godo wrote:Well, going with Naruto, their raw power may fade in comparision to say, Goku's, BUT, imagine the Makengou (spelling?) Sharingan genjutsu on Goku's brain. He would be in a coma in no time.

Before or after Goku rips him apart? Seriously though Goku is way faster than the likes of Itachi for him to be affected by it.

Jermyn · Post by **Jermyn** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:24 pm

It would depend on the timeframe from which they come from the first half of Dragonball are about Naruto levels of power when in Dragonball Z we go from ''I can blow up a planet'' (Freeza saga) to ''I can rip holes the fabric of space-time by power up''. So if we were to drop the Goku of Buu saga in Bleach then watch as he solves Ichigo and friends problem of Aizen and his Arrancars by going Super Saiyan 3 and trash them.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:42 pm

I have a feeling this would become a huge shitstorm. No one in Naruto, Bleach or One Piece would stand a chance against DBZ characters. Their are animes above DBZ that would give them good fights like Saint Seiya, Slayers, Bastard, and JJBA. And their is Pokemon and Transformers too.

The Tenchi Muyo! OVA universe

The Tenchi series has a Omnipotent and other nigh Omnipotent characters like Counter-Actor, D's and The Chousin. Someone like Z or Ryoko with three power gems should beat anyone in DBZGT IMO. Since Z has LHW and survived the point of impact from two Multiversal Cosmic Godess clashing with one another, wiping out the entire Galaxy with no problem.

how about Evangelion? AT Fields would probably be a problem for a lot of the characters. Assuming they couldn't cancel it out with their own auras in the way an AT Field can cancel an AT Field, it would take something like a beam with power equal to Japan's maximum power output to pierce even a normal one. Any planet busting character could no doubt pull this off. Fighting an Eva could be comparable to fighting an Oozaru, with armor that can survive a nuclear blast.

Unit 01 against Oozaru Goku would be a nice fight unless it hand to hand. But anyone above Piccolo jr should solo the Eva-verse IMO.

It's hard to say if they'd have the speed to match a Dragon Ball character.

As much I love the Guyver series, I don't see Guyver XD or Alkanphel getting past the Namke saga.

Several years ago someone said that Dark Schneider (from Bastard!?) Vs. Goku was something of a trick question, as Dark Schneider could apparently will himself back to life and destroy universes by flying past them. I've never seen anything to substantiate this, but I haven't looked all that hard either.

Destroying the universe part never happen. I believe he was talking about Satan who destroy the Milky Way Galaxy by flying past it. Dark Schneider should beat Goku IMO with the Dispel Bound, his regen, and he beated Fallen Uriel (Who stated to have the power to wipe out four galaxies).

Dark Schneider does have the destructive power to do so.

Info on his powes can be view here:

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=452650

FuniYamcha · Post by **FuniYamcha** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:15 pm

I think that the Z fighters would be in a stalemate with Alucard from the end of Hellsing, considering neither group would really be able to damage the other....

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