FUNimation Dragon Box Updates

[Raki]

SSVegetto, you don't see people demanding the Ocean cast dub be included, or the Saban music, do you?

I only request what Funimation has done or broadcasted. Excluding eps 1-54, 55-291, they themselves did and broadcasted on USA TV. So I at least expect all 3 audio tracks the ones they had from their widescreen ones to be on this one. This is a nostalgic track. Funimation has failed me.

The Ocean dub was broadcasted on TV. For quite a while I might add.

[jjgp1112]

Personally, I'm glad they got rid of the dub track. Especially since this is primarily aim at fans of the Japanese version.

Do you think that they are finally phasing out the dub track for good? As in, there won't be a dub track on Future releases?

It seems like the main reason they're getting rid of it is because of the bitrate.

[Big Boss]

I think this thread is on the verge of being you-know-what. Or a temporary lock. Go ahead, I say. Its served its purpose. Things are getting exactly the same as the main Dragon Box thread, now.

[ShinRogafuken]

Well, here's the deal on all this.

A- You're either happy because the video bit-rate will be better (and you may be a Japanese Original fanatic)
or
B- You're mad that there won't be a Bruce Faulconer track.

So what letter are you? I'm A.

[MCDaveG]

You really don't get it what I meant.


Orange bricks and US broadcast versions can have whatever edit they want if it's permitted.
But this is release of japanese Dragon Box and it's obvious that it'll get localization only in form of dub and subs in language where it's going to be released.....

If you wan't that audio track, you already have orange bricks, so I don't get it why you are bitching all the time about Dragon Boxes.

If someone must alternating and editing content of the original creation, then there is something wrong don't you think??

Japanese will never edit something like lot of show in US was, because what I saw on internet and in discussions, the edits are done mostly because those people don't have a taste or aren't mature yet....
That's kinda sad, because this show is already in the kids' rank and it still must be edited for those kids......

[SSVegetto]

SSVegetto, you don't see people demanding the Ocean cast dub be included, or the Saban music, do you?

I only request what Funimation has done or broadcasted. Excluding eps 1-54, 55-291, they themselves did and broadcasted on USA TV. So I at least expect all 3 audio tracks the ones they had from their widescreen ones to be on this one. This is a nostalgic track. Funimation has failed me.

The Ocean dub was broadcasted on TV. For quite a while I might add.

Okay lets put it this way then. Since I knew you were going to get technical about this. All the uncut episodes that they broadcasted RIGHT here in the United States of America. The english dub that they had for that, plus the other one they custom made for their remastered widescreen. The two big ones here in the United states.

The only thing ocean dub did was 1-54 in the United States and that was it. But the big one that they completed in the United States should be at least on the set. Basically I want all that they already completed that was already on the remastered wide screen sets. They should at least give us all those 3 to be complete. Since respecfully the broadcast dubbed was broadcasted in the United States all of them. And the ocean dub was not all broad casted in the United States. Three dubs, there do we got it now? I mean I'm saying they could at least keep the one that they original broad casted on there. I don't know if there is room for the ocean dub and that would be pushing it. But at least have the 3 ones that they already had for the ones from the remastered widescreen sets.

Personally, I'm glad they got rid of the dub track. Especially since this is primarily aim at fans of the Japanese version.

Do you think that they are finally phasing out the dub track for good? As in, there won't be a dub track on Future releases?

It seems like the main reason they're getting rid of it is because of the bitrate.

It's because they are incompetent trust me. They will continually make mistakes for every dbz release they bring out. I mean they might as well made Dragonball season 1 widescreen because they cropped enough of that also.

You really don't get it what I meant.

If you wan't that audio track, you already have orange bricks, so I don't get it why you are bitching all the time about Dragon Boxes.

If someone must alternating and editing content of the original creation, then there is something wrong don't you think??

Japanese will never edit something like lot of show in US was, because what I saw on internet and in discussions, the edits are done mostly because those people don't have a taste or aren't mature yet....
That's kinda sad, because this show is already in the kids' rank and it still must be edited for those kids......

So what you are saying is people that want to watch Faulconer's score can't watch it in the proper quality. They have to watch it in the shitty quality. Then you ask what are we bitching about? All because Funimation is too lazy to put all 3 audios on there last supposed best quality release of dbz? It makes no sense not to have it 100% complete. So people can have a preference.

[Raki]

You do realize that the Dragonball masters were zoomed in from the start right?

[jjgp1112]

If you wan't that audio track, you already have orange bricks, so I don't get it why you are bitching all the time about Dragon Boxes.

You really don't get it, do you?

[Raki]

If you wan't that audio track, you already have orange bricks, so I don't get it why you are bitching all the time about Dragon Boxes.

You really don't get it, do you?

Good sir. You wanted both dub tracks not to please everyone. You wanted them to please your own needs. Like, the Nathan Johnson score sucks and you don't like it. The Japanese score for you works for 67 episodes but after that Falcouner's score works for you. Even at the cost of video quality if I'm not mistaken.

[jjgp1112]

I think I should just re-post this for those who missed it just so people can understand why some of us care:

I think I should say why us dubbies are (or now, were) so gung-ho on the dub music being in there:

I can't speak for everyone, but in my case, ever since I first found out about all of the flaws in the Season sets and the fact there was an alternative called the Dragon Boxes, I wanted them. But when I found out it was Japanese only with no subs and a STEEP price, I was instantly taken aback. It kept me from being optimistic that I would actually own them. So I would go on all of these sites and look for screencaps of the Dragon Box just so I could get SOME form of exposure to it. Hell, I would even adjust the color settings on my TV so the colors would look kinda sorta like the Dragon Box just so I could get the illusion (or delusion) of actually having it. So when Funimation announced that they were releasing these sought-after sets in America at a good price, I was excited - I would finally see what I sought after so much. But it not having the dub music was just a letdown because it's been the way I've liked watching the show for years - and now I can't watch it in the quality I've sought after for the last 2 years.

I understand why this is special for the sub fans. If you've been following the show since the early 90's and experienced all of the bad treatment Funi gave to the show, you're gonna feel relieved now that Funi has released the series in the way they should have. But because of mistakes that Funi made in the past - and I emphasize past because we can't change it - it lead to all kinds of divided in the fanbase. It also created people like me who are just as knowledgeable as sub fans but just like the dub more. They have the same opinion of Funi's treatment but have grown to like certain things that were a product of the bad treatment, like the dub music. It's what made them a fan in the first place. They're just as much of a minority as the Japanese fans in America. They agree with you guys just as much that Funi never released the series like they should have. So they deserve just as much as you guys to watch the show how THEY want it, in the best quality possible and finally get a good release from Funi.

[B]

All because Funimation is too lazy to put all 3 audios on there last supposed best quality release of dbz? It makes no sense not to have it 100% complete. So people can have a preference.

FUNimation isn't out to get anyone. Stop playing the victim.

[SSVegetto]

You do realize that the Dragonball masters were zoomed in from the start right?

Then Funimation shouldn't have accepted those masters then. Because too much was cropped. Way too much. It's not even worth it.
So for the Dragonbox masters, Funimation got a zoomed in version of that too I suppose, huh?

[MCDaveG]

If you wan't that audio track, you already have orange bricks, so I don't get it why you are bitching all the time about Dragon Boxes.

You really don't get it, do you?

Yeah I pretty got it, but that's not my fault that domestic (US) release of Dragon Ball Z was screwed by Funimation and they are know only releasing Japanese product in English localization......

It's like they'll make import of Super Sentai - Ohranger figures to US and I was bitching about that red ranger Gorou Hoshino haven't changeable head with US Power Rangers' red ranger Tommy included.....

[Raki]

Despite of RegularSaiyanVegetto is typing, the quality WOULD suffer from 3 audio tracks. One track had to get cut and Funimation believed it to be the dub track. I understand everybody wants a quality release. But technology is limited and so is Funimation's skills with the said technology. You would rather have a dub audio track that is basically an insult and that could have hampered the video quality just so you could switch between tracks at will jjgp1112?

[jjgp1112]

You do realize that the Dragonball masters were zoomed in from the start right?

Then Funimation shouldn't have accepted those masters then. Because too much was cropped. Way too much. It's not even worth it.
So for the Dragonbox masters, Funimation got a zoomed in version of that too I suppose, huh?

I think you're being laughably paranoid. The only reason Toei gave them zoomed in masters was to hide film damage. Toei fixed all of the film damage on the Dragon Box, so there's no reason for them to zoom in.

[SSVegetto]

Despite of RegularSaiyanVegetto is typing, the quality WOULD suffer from 3 audio tracks. One track had to get cut and Funimation believed it to be the dub track. I understand everybody wants a quality release. But technology is limited and so is Funimation's skills with the said technology. You would rather have a dub audio track that is basically an insult and that could have hampered the video quality just so you could switch between tracks at will jjgp1112?

A that is bogus. Funimation's fans can do a better job making a DVD than Funimation could. And also, they could make them dual sided. One with the Japanese audio and English subtitles and the other side for the two English audios. Wow, is that so hard to figure out? Grow some brains Funimation.

You do realize that the Dragonball masters were zoomed in from the start right?

Then Funimation shouldn't have accepted those masters then. Because too much was cropped. Way too much. It's not even worth it.
So for the Dragonbox masters, Funimation got a zoomed in version of that too I suppose, huh?

I think you're being laughably paranoid. The only reason Toei gave them zoomed in masters was to hide film damage. Toei fixed all of the film damage on the Dragon Box, so there's no reason for them to zoom in.

Again, your point is? Why does Toei have to hide the film damage for them(when they could crop it out as well). As a business I would not accept that. I would only accept The full non zoomed in masters. That way , I can choose what I want to crop out if there is film damage. Also , if I wanted I could fix the film damage. But Funimation is too lazy to fix stuff.

Even so, they cropped out some more even. So a lot was cropped out. So the end result was terrible amount of cropping. It's horrible.

[jjgp1112]

Despite of RegularSaiyanVegetto is typing, the quality WOULD suffer from 3 audio tracks. One track had to get cut and Funimation believed it to be the dub track. I understand everybody wants a quality release. But technology is limited and so is Funimation's skills with the said technology. You would rather have a dub audio track that is basically an insult and that could have hampered the video quality just so you could switch between tracks at will jjgp1112?

A that iss bogus. Funimation's fans can do a better job making a DVD than Funimation could. And also, they could make dual layer sides. One with the Japanese audio and English subtitles and the other side for the two English audios. Wow, is that so hard to figure out? Grow some brains Funimation.

Um, the Dragon Box discs are dual-layered. The Remastered discs were even dual layered.

[SSVegetto]

Um, the Dragon Box discs are dual-layered. The Remastered discs were even dual layered.

I mean dual sided sorry about that.

[jjgp1112]

Um, the Dragon Box discs are dual-layered. The Remastered discs were even dual layered.

I mean dual sided sorry about that.

I don't think Funi would make a dual-sided discs unless they were planning to actually do something meaningful with the feature.

[Raki]

Um, the Dragon Box discs are dual-layered. The Remastered discs were even dual layered.

I mean dual sided sorry about that.

Those scratch easily.