Gotenks and Super Buu

smiley · Post by **smiley** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:53 am

Who was stronger?

Yes, we see Gotenks pummeling Buu on-panel, but Buu later implied that he was just stalling so he could absorb him after Gohan arrived. In the end, is there a definitive answer on who was stronger between the two?

B · Post by B » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:04 am

Their absolute strength is more or less the same, as stated by Piccolo.

If you want to get technical, Buu is the better strategist(which is sad) and his abilities give him more endurance. If you blow Buu to pieces, he could come back, if you blow Gotenks to pieces...

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:04 am

There aren't many definitive answers in the Buu saga, I think; you just put all the information together and decide for yourself.

Personally I think they're rather even. Neither of them fight each other completely seriously, so it's hard to say. Buu was messing around when Gotenks as SSJ1, but they seemed to be able to keep up with him like that. If he'd been giving it his all, then Gotenks at SSJ3 would have beaten him easily. We also know that he wasn't being serious when he was SSJ3, since he was waiting for Gohan.

However, since Buu was more bothered by Gohan being stronger, I think we can assume that he didn't think Gotenks was much stronger than him, if at all. So yeah, I think those two are close enough, and Buu might have thought he was somewhat stronger since he didn't seem worried by them.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:13 am

Gotenks isn't strong enough to cause serious harm to Boo, just the kind he insta-heals from. So while Boo can't kill SSJ3 Gotenks, the fact that Boo can absorb him, transform him, and greatly outlast him tells me Boo is stronger.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:20 am

Dayspring wrote:Gotenks isn't strong enough to cause serious harm to Boo, just the kind he insta-heals from. So while Boo can't kill SSJ3 Gotenks, the fact that Boo can absorb him, transform him, and greatly outlast him tells me Boo is stronger.

To be fair, Gotenks blew Buu to pieces several times, and then vaporized those pieces at least once. If he couldn't regenerate from smoke alone, he'd be dead.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:24 am

Bussani wrote:
Dayspring wrote:Gotenks isn't strong enough to cause serious harm to Boo, just the kind he insta-heals from. So while Boo can't kill SSJ3 Gotenks, the fact that Boo can absorb him, transform him, and greatly outlast him tells me Boo is stronger.
To be fair, Gotenks blew Buu to pieces several times, and then vaporized those pieces at least once. If he couldn't regenerate from smoke alone, he'd be dead.

Which is frickin' spectacular about Gotenks. But it prooves that Gotenks isn't a serious threat to Boo. If Gotenks' best outcome is to stalemate Boo for 5-30 minutes, wheras that's Boo's worst outcome, I say Boo is stronger.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:34 am

Gotenks has a fantastic strength, but he's still a child and never takes his opponent seriously enough, whereas Buu can keep on regenerating even if Gotenks gave it all he had in him.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:08 pm

I see Gotenks as being stronger than Boo.

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:24 pm

I could see them being equal, but I don't think Gotenks is stronger. Super Boo was waiting for Gohan, and declared that power as potentially being greater than his own. I think Gotenks just got the upperhand in the end.

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:05 pm

Buu also said that if he had absorbed Gotenks whom ever it was with the large power would be no threat at all.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:05 pm

Shoryuken wrote:Gotenks has a fantastic strength, but he's still a child and never takes his opponent seriously enough, whereas Buu can keep on regenerating even if Gotenks gave it all he had in him.

I dunno... Piccolo said 'we should have annihilated him with our ki' when he regenerated from smoke. If they had done that, they might have killed him. And that was before Gotenks had even started using SSJ3.

goku the krump dancer wrote:Buu also said that if he had absorbed Gotenks whom ever it was with the large power would be no threat at all.

Right. Because Buu + someone around the same strength as Buu = bigger Buu. Gohan's strength is somewhere above Gotenks/Super Buu but below Gotenks-Buu.

Also it's 'whoever' in your sentence.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:09 pm

My poo fused with closet water is stronger than both of them...... and equal to Gohan powered up by Grand Kaioshin.

I hope this will solve this huge trouble with strengths

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:18 pm

MCDaveG wrote:My poo fused with closet water is stronger than both of them...... and equal to Gohan powered up by Grand Kaioshin.

I hope this will solve this huge trouble with strengths

You know, the only reason these threads are frowned upon is because they often have no discussion value, or can't be solved or agreed on. But comments like this don't have any discussion value at all, so...

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:29 pm

Bussani wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:My poo fused with closet water is stronger than both of them...... and equal to Gohan powered up by Grand Kaioshin.

I hope this will solve this huge trouble with strengths
You know, the only reason these threads are frowned upon is because they often have no discussion value, or can't be solved or agreed on. But comments like this don't have any discussion value at all, so...

These topics don't have discussion value at all, you can asume by logic that Super Boo was stronger then Gotenks, but weaker then Gohan and after absorbing Gotenks, he was stronger then Gohan..... what's up then?

I'm wandering here and seeing topics like, is Frog Ginyu stronger then other Namek frogs? Is Goku's towel stronger then his T-shirt?? and on the other hand there are questions in ''will it blend'' style on how much the warriors can actualy take from sun, gravity, knifes, poison.....

I'll ask about some thing, or there is lot of fan creations, podcasts..... few of people is talking about normal things and merchandise, but everybody is discussing things which nobody can prove on 100% with official written data.....

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:41 am

MCDaveG wrote: I'll ask about some thing, or there is lot of fan creations, podcasts..... few of people is talking about normal things and merchandise, but everybody is discussing things which nobody can prove on 100% with official written data.....

While I get where you're coming from, I kinda feel like it's mostly the complete opposite.
We get hundred-plus-page threads every time a new game or DVD release is anounced, lotsa "Dub/sub?" "Does GT suck?" and the like, to the extent that more than once I've considered just not looking at the general board at all and focusing on the "Dragonball Questions?" section. (Only considered. ^^ )

Though, I do find that most of the threads in the "Dragonball Questions?" section tend to have multiple pages only when it's a strength debate (Or timetravel. ^^. I find that image-search type questions tend to last a confusingly long while as well.

).

Yeah, I'm not sure what I just did.

Ur... yeah... I treat Gotenks and Buu as about equal based on comments the characters make. Then I do math to figure out how fusion works, then I forget it and do it again in an inappropriate place and hope noone gets annoyed. ^^.

Yamcha_krillin · Post by **Yamcha_krillin** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:38 am

I think Super Buu was stronger since he said that only Gohan was stronger then him.

smiley · Post by **smiley** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 am

MCDaveG wrote:My poo fused with closet water is stronger than both of them...... and equal to Gohan powered up by Grand Kaioshin.

I hope this will solve this huge trouble with strengths

If you don't have anything smart to contribute to the thread, stop derailing the topic or I'm reporting for you for trolling.