Cell Destroying The Solar System?

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Post by Amigo Ten » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:32 pm

Rocketman wrote:
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russ869 wrote:What the hell would Cell do after he destroyed the solar system? Wouldn't he be super-bored then? If he blows up the planet, how's he gonna go on TV every day saying, "Fight me for you lives!" and preaching about how he's the king bastard of the Earth (He's not to different from Piccolo Daimao in this regard).
Fly off and find another planet to terrorize?
4000 years later...

Cell: Holy fuck, I'm still not there yet?
He knew how to teleport though.

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Post by Bussani » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:34 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Bussani wrote:
russ869 wrote:What the hell would Cell do after he destroyed the solar system? Wouldn't he be super-bored then? If he blows up the planet, how's he gonna go on TV every day saying, "Fight me for you lives!" and preaching about how he's the king bastard of the Earth (He's not to different from Piccolo Daimao in this regard).
Fly off and find another planet to terrorize?
4000 years later...

Cell: Holy fuck, I'm still not there yet?
Maybe I should have said 'Shunkan Idoed off' instead.
Amigo Ten wrote:I always imagined the Cell's line meant that he had enough power that he could release his power in some kind of Vegeta-Final-Explosion attack, and from Earth, it would reach across the entire solar system destroying everything.
Same, sorta. He said 'I have enough ki to destroy the solar system,' not 'this kamehameha is going to destroy the solar system.'

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:38 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Bussani wrote: Fly off and find another planet to terrorize?
4000 years later...

Cell: Holy fuck, I'm still not there yet?
He knew how to teleport though.
You can't teleport unless you can sense ki to lock onto.
Amigo Ten wrote:I always imagined the Cell's line meant that he had enough power that he could release his power in some kind of Vegeta-Final-Explosion attack, and from Earth, it would reach across the entire solar system destroying everything.
So why didn't Vegeta's self-destruction do anything more than make a big crater? Vegeta was far stronger than Cell, and was releasing every bit of ki he had.

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Post by Amigo Ten » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:42 pm

Vegeta was trying to kill Boo, not destroy a solar system.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:43 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:Vegeta was trying to kill Boo, not destroy a solar system.
But he released his energy in an expanding sphere around him, not as anything focused on Buu.

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Post by Godo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:44 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Bussani wrote:
russ869 wrote:What the hell would Cell do after he destroyed the solar system? Wouldn't he be super-bored then? If he blows up the planet, how's he gonna go on TV every day saying, "Fight me for you lives!" and preaching about how he's the king bastard of the Earth (He's not to different from Piccolo Daimao in this regard).
Fly off and find another planet to terrorize?
4000 years later...

Cell: Holy fuck, I'm still not there yet?
A couple of minutes later...

Cell: Thank God for the Instant transmission!

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Post by Amigo Ten » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:47 pm

I know, but killing Boo was still his intention, and the explosion was as big it needed to be to do that (of course it didn't kill him, but still).

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:50 pm

Godo wrote:A couple of minutes later...

Cell: Thank God for the Instant transmission!
Instant Transmission doesn't work unless you can find some ki to lock onto.

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Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:50 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:Vegeta was trying to kill Boo, not destroy a solar system.
But he released his energy in an expanding sphere around him, not as anything focused on Buu.
Actually, he was focused on Boo only. This is evident with Piccolo saying something along the lines of, "You'll die. You won't keep your body." He didn't state anything towards Vegeta to be careful and not destroy the planet.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:59 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:
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Amigo Ten wrote:Vegeta was trying to kill Boo, not destroy a solar system.
But he released his energy in an expanding sphere around him, not as anything focused on Buu.
Actually, he was focused on Boo only. This is evident with Piccolo saying something along the lines of, "You'll die. You won't keep your body." He didn't state anything towards Vegeta to be careful and not destroy the planet.
How is Piccolo supposed to know what Vegeta's about to do?

And if Vegeta was focusing only on Buu, why did he waste all that energy blowing up the land behind him?

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:35 pm

Rocketman wrote:
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Rocketman wrote: But he released his energy in an expanding sphere around him, not as anything focused on Buu.
Actually, he was focused on Boo only. This is evident with Piccolo saying something along the lines of, "You'll die. You won't keep your body." He didn't state anything towards Vegeta to be careful and not destroy the planet.
How is Piccolo supposed to know what Vegeta's about to do?

And if Vegeta was focusing only on Buu, why did he waste all that energy blowing up the land behind him?
I guess its something like this.....you aim a Rocket-launcher at a tank, even though you hit your target the explosion effets the surronding areas...still kinda hard to explain though.
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Post by Godo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:54 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Godo wrote:A couple of minutes later...

Cell: Thank God for the Instant transmission!
Instant Transmission doesn't work unless you can find some ki to lock onto.
Umm, New Namek wasn't in the same solar system, right? And Goku managed to find some ki to lock onto nevertheless.
Cell could have just looked for some ki patterns that he recognized and in that way he could have teleported his way through space, as he would encounter new life forms.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 pm

Godo wrote:Umm, New Namek wasn't in the same solar system, right? And Goku managed to find some ki to lock onto nevertheless.
But he had to teleport to King Kai's planet first, and then concentrate for some time before he could detect the Nameks.

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Post by Godo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:55 am

Rocketman wrote:
Godo wrote:Umm, New Namek wasn't in the same solar system, right? And Goku managed to find some ki to lock onto nevertheless.
But he had to teleport to King Kai's planet first, and then concentrate for some time before he could detect the Nameks.
As far as I know, Cell could do something similar too, finding some Ki and looking.
Goku was in that case looking for New Namek specifically. There may be another planet that is closer to Earth.
Otherwise, Cell has all the time in the world (he he) to look for other lifeforms via concentrating.
I think that just a faint ki is enough.

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Post by Dayspring » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:52 pm

Rocketman wrote:
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Rocketman wrote: 4000 years later...

Cell: Holy fuck, I'm still not there yet?
He knew how to teleport though.
You can't teleport unless you can sense ki to lock onto.
He could probably sense a distant ki, though. He was able to find his way back to Earth from Kaio's, after all.
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Post by Bussani » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:04 pm

Rocketman wrote:So why didn't Vegeta's self-destruction do anything more than make a big crater? Vegeta was far stronger than Cell, and was releasing every bit of ki he had.
It could be argued that Vegeta was also capable of blowing up the planet at that point, yet his self destructing didn't do that either.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:03 pm

Bussani wrote:
Rocketman wrote:So why didn't Vegeta's self-destruction do anything more than make a big crater? Vegeta was far stronger than Cell, and was releasing every bit of ki he had.
It could be argued that Vegeta was also capable of blowing up the planet at that point, yet his self destructing didn't do that either.
I think it's all about ki control.
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Post by Godo » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:34 am

Why would Vegeta just spread his energy to kill Buu, when concentrating it into a sphere would be more effective?

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:26 pm

Godo wrote:Why would Vegeta just spread his energy to kill Buu, when concentrating it into a sphere would be more effective?
...how is making it into a sphere more effective? All the energy not aimed at Buu goes to waste.

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Post by Pitzu » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:57 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Godo wrote:Why would Vegeta just spread his energy to kill Buu, when concentrating it into a sphere would be more effective?
...how is making it into a sphere more effective? All the energy not aimed at Buu goes to waste.
If you direct it at him, he could dodge it.

I don't know if Fat Buu could use Instant Transmission, so making a huge area of damage ensures that if Buu moved, he would still get hit
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