The most embarrassing moment for a character

[Tsukento]

Not to mention, Freeza was split in half and missing an arm while being on the brink of death. And even then, Goku still blasted his ass back harder while leaving him on an exploding planet when Freeza decided to use the little bit of energy Goku gave him to somewhat stay alive by firing a Ki blast at Goku.

[Rocketman]

Not to mention, Freeza was split in half and missing an arm while being on the brink of death. And even then, Goku still blasted his ass back harder while leaving him on an exploding planet when Freeza decided to use the little bit of energy Goku gave him to somewhat stay alive by firing a Ki blast at Goku.

That's not what I was talking about.

[nathantheguitarist]

Does GT count as an embarrassment for Toei?

Also... pretty much anything involving Trunks in GT. Vegeta too.

And indirectly, Vegeta seemed a bit embarrassed seeing Nappa get his ass handed to him so fast.

[mAcChaos]

Meanwhile, Goku let Freeza reach 100% because he wanted to see just how much stronger Freeza could get despite him having already having the ability to beat Freeza.

That was the instance I was talking about.

-Freeza was left because Goku believed Freeza's pride was ultimately destroyed and that with his pride gone, he would not be able to fight anymore.

But that's a really, really stupid decision too.

He let Freeza power up not for Vegeta's reasons; Vegeta just wanted to satisfy his own pride, the entire scenario was appealing to his ego. Goku wanted Freeza to get as powerful as he could so when Goku finally crushed him Freeza could do nothing but face the fact that he got beaten by a monkey. It was revenge.

Goku wouldn't have let Cell go. You could pretty much tell by his reaction and his attitude going in training before that they wanted to defeat Cell before he would become complete. Vegeta never really cared about preventing Cell from being complete, unlike Goku; his goal was merely to prove how strong he was, and indirectly and then directly surpass Goku.

[MCDaveG]

Does GT count as an embarrassment for Toei?

Also... pretty much anything involving Trunks in GT. Vegeta too.

And indirectly, Vegeta seemed a bit embarrassed seeing Nappa get his ass handed to him so fast.

Did you see Saint Seiya and compared it to the original manga??? Man, that was embarrasing pretty hard!

GT is okay in comparison

[nathantheguitarist]

Sorry, not familiar with Saint Seiya at all.

I guess it must have more plotholes and redundancies than GT though!

[Rocketman]

He let Freeza power up not for Vegeta's reasons; Vegeta just wanted to satisfy his own pride, the entire scenario was appealing to his ego. Goku wanted Freeza to get as powerful as he could so when Goku finally crushed him Freeza could do nothing but face the fact that he got beaten by a monkey. It was revenge.

Goku wanted to humiliate Freeza, Vegeta wanted to humiliate Cell.

[MCDaveG]

Sorry, not familiar with Saint Seiya at all.

I guess it must have more plotholes and redundancies than GT though!

Yeah it had, also different character designs..... + They were always almost dead or dying troughout the series pretty often and they made huge idiots from some of the main characters and lot of cliché repeating all over time

Like one Saint called Shun (voiced by Ryo Horikawa) always got beating like hell without laying single punch and his older brother Phoenix Ikki was also rescuing him.... Over 10 times

[rereboy]

Meanwhile, Goku let Freeza reach 100% because he wanted to see just how much stronger Freeza could get despite him having already having the ability to beat Freeza.

That was the instance I was talking about.

-Freeza was left because Goku believed Freeza's pride was ultimately destroyed and that with his pride gone, he would not be able to fight anymore.

But that's a really, really stupid decision too.

He let Freeza power up not for Vegeta's reasons; Vegeta just wanted to satisfy his own pride, the entire scenario was appealing to his ego. Goku wanted Freeza to get as powerful as he could so when Goku finally crushed him Freeza could do nothing but face the fact that he got beaten by a monkey. It was revenge.

Goku wouldn't have let Cell go. You could pretty much tell by his reaction and his attitude going in training before that they wanted to defeat Cell before he would become complete. Vegeta never really cared about preventing Cell from being complete, unlike Goku; his goal was merely to prove how strong he was, and indirectly and then directly surpass Goku.

Uh, no...

Goku specifically said that he wanted to see the most powerful being on the universe at full power. He thought that he would win and he did. But what if he had been wrong and couldn`t beat him at 100%?

His decision was all based on pride and ego. And he made it just after saying that he wouldn`t let Freeza reach 100%. He said this because he knew that it was the right thing to do. But his pride, his ego, his need for a challenge got in the way.

He also acted the same with Vegeta and, to a point, with Piccolo. He let them go because he wanted the rivals. It was all about him. It was a miracle that those gestures didn`t backfire on him later on.

Vegeta did the same thing with Cell. He wanted to see this perfect being`s power. He thought he would win but, unlike Goku with Freeza, he was wrong, and Cell`s power went far beyond his expectations. It backfired on him.

Same thing with Gohan when he reached SSJ2. He was toying with Cell. Almost letting him go. Despite Goku`s warnings, I highly doubt that Goku would behave in different fashion, had he been the one to reach SSJ2 first. It would be just at it was with Gohan. Goku was warning Gohan because to him, in his eyes, Cell was still an incredible danger. Had he been a SSJ2 that wouldn`t happen.

Goku is not a typical hero. He`s better than Vegeta and Gohan but he still has those sayan flaws and characteristics. He`s not Superman. He`s a sayan martial artist.
He wouldn`t beat up his own son or let somebody be absorbed just to have a worthy challenge like Vegeta, but if semi-perfect Cell said that he was going to power up for a minute and reach his perfect state (like Freeza) Goku would probably let him.

[Rocketman]

He wouldn`t beat up his own son or let somebody be absorbed just to have a worthy challenge like Vegeta

You sure? He threatened to kill the Supreme Kai if he didn't get out of the way.

[rereboy]

He wouldn`t beat up his own son or let somebody be absorbed just to have a worthy challenge like Vegeta

You sure? He threatened to kill the Supreme Kai if he didn't get out of the way.

If the Kaioshin didn`t let them fight, Vegeta would just kill more people to convince Goku. Maybe even the Kaioshin.

Goku knew this and so he showed the kaioshin that their fight was going to happen no matter what.

I think its an entirely different situation.

[AndoKomando]

Vegita: Claiming to be a Super Saiyan against Freeza then getting royally raped. haha.

Mr. Satan: Everything he does.

[Rocketman]

Yamcha: At the 23rd Budokai, God comes down from Heaven and smashes Yamcha's balls.

[Sprite Satan]

As I used to recap, Yamucha's entire run in the series is pretty much one long-running series of slights and insults that merge together to create an overwhelming vortex of embarrassment.

I still love the guy though.

(Phew, its been a while.)

[Metalwario64]

The most embarrassing moment for Pan was in the dub when Videl announced to the whole world that she still slept with a night-light.

[Piccolo Daimao]

As I used to recap, Yamucha's entire run in the series is pretty much one long-running series of slights and insults that merge together to create an overwhelming vortex of embarrassment.

I still love the guy though.

(Phew, its been a while.)

I think Yamcha's best moment was his battle with Tenshinhan in the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai. Granted, he got his leg broken at the end, but he put up a brilliant fight.

Which brings me to:

The Grand List of Yamcha's Embarrassments

1. Getting his tooth knocked out by Goku
2. Accidentally seeing Bulma naked twice (which hit him hard considering his fear of girls)
3. Lying to Chi-Chi that he was in love with her
4. The running gag of him always losing in the first round of the Tenka'ichi Budokais
5. The sole reason for his victory against the Invisible being the dirty old man who saw his girlfriend's babylons
6. Getting hit in the balls by Kami-Sama (and worse, Kami-Sama made it seem like an accident)
7. Being the only one to get killed by a Saibaiman's self-destruction
8. Bulma dumped him, then let herself get laid and bear a child by an increasingly egotistical genocidal maniac ("Yeah, it's better I dump a good guy who fights to protect the Earth for a murderer who puts an unnatural obsession with my friend over me and our kid." Well, OK, Yamcha did cheat on her, I guess.)
9. The first one to experience Dr. Gero's energy drain
10. And finally, getting turned to chocolate and eaten (which has to be one of the most embarrassing deaths of all time)

[Olympian]

Yamcha: - His death by the hands of the Saibaman

I think what's even worse is that Yamcha died by one blowing up on him, meanwhile Kuririn survives against Nappa and Vegeta despite his massive beatings.

What massive beatings? He spent the whole time (and credit at him for that) acting like Piccolo`s tag team partner, until a single beam from Nappa (and not even the beam itself, since he dodges it, but the concussion force of it) puts him down and renders him unable to do anything else, until Goku heals him up with the senzu.

He wouldnt even be alive after that beam if Piccolo didnt distracted Nappa. Meanhile, Yamcha went down with a massive explosion of a Saibaman who sneak upon him and grabbed him, so he wouldnt escape.

I dont seee how one is a much better feat than the other, really. The Saibaman were weaker than Yamcha and co to a good degree, but that doesnt mean they couldnt use dangerous attacks at the time. Not when even Tenshinhan dodged the acid drop.

[Olympian]

As I used to recap, Yamucha's entire run in the series is pretty much one long-running series of slights and insults that merge together to create an overwhelming vortex of embarrassment.

I still love the guy though.

(Phew, its been a while.)

No doubt in my mind, that Toryama messed up with this character the most, but some of the gags are stuff that other charcaters, namely Vegeta are known for. For some reason, Yamcha takes the main brunt of the negativity aspect. Likely because he wasent one of the strongest characters of the show.

I think Yamcha's best moment was his battle with Tenshinhan in the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai. Granted, he got his leg broken at the end, but he put up a brilliant fight.

Which brings me to:

The Grand List of Yamcha's Embarrassments

1. Getting his tooth knocked out by Goku
2. Accidentally seeing Bulma naked twice (which hit him hard considering his fear of girls)
3. Lying to Chi-Chi that he was in love with her
4. The running gag of him always losing in the first round of the Tenka'ichi Budokais
5. The sole reason for his victory against the Invisible being the dirty old man who saw his girlfriend's babylons
6. Getting hit in the balls by Kami-Sama (and worse, Kami-Sama made it seem like an accident)
7. Being the only one to get killed by a Saibaiman (and the Saibaiman weren't even the real threat)
8. Bulma dumped him, then let herself get laid and bear a child by an increasingly egotistical genocidal maniac ("Yeah, it's better I dump a good guy who fights to protect the Earth for a murderer who puts an unnatural obsession with my friend over me and our kid." Well, OK, Yamcha did cheat on her, I guess.)
9. The first one to experience Dr. Gero's energy drain
10. And finally, getting turned to chocolate and eaten (which has to be one of the most embarrassing deaths of all time)

Some of those are like..heh. Yamcha losing the first round in Tournments isent embarassing when you compare with the quality of opponents that Goku and Krillin had. The Bulma aspect speaks more of herself than anyone else, in my view.

The Saibaman were still a threat. When someone like Ten still feels the need to dodge one of theyr attacks, its not kid`s play.

And Yamcha would have won clean against the Invisible Man if Baba didnt cheat, we all know it

Sorry, not familiar with Saint Seiya at all.

I guess it must have more plotholes and redundancies than GT though!

Yeah it had, also different character designs..... + They were always almost dead or dying troughout the series pretty often and they made huge idiots from some of the main characters and lot of cliché repeating all over time

Gah..Saint Seiya is "the" awesome. Some of the clichés are well worth just by the originality of the whole concept alone. You dont really have another Manga like it.

Yamcha: At the 23rd Budokai, God comes down from Heaven and smashes Yamcha's balls.

Many people spent all theyr lifes wondering about God`s existence.

Yamcha felt it. The Man is blessed beyond simple words.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Goten seemed pretty damned embarrassed when that big honkin' Megasaurus Rex came up behind him while he and Trunks were taking a whizz. I'm surprised that they didn't leave twin trails of urine behind them as they ran off.


~Da Lemmy

[Rocketman]

Who taught Goten the Kamehameha?