Where can I watch Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans?

[Pitzu]

It's the one piece of Dragonball media I have never seen.
Where can I watch it?

[caejones]

I think it was in a DragonBox? (DragonBox the movies? ).

[Rami]

Do a search on Youtube, it'll pop right up.

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[TripleRach]

I realize it's not exactly easy to find this thing legally, but it is available on either the Japanese Dragon Boxes, or even the original VHS tapes if you're lucky. Maybe someday it will be released more conveniently by FUNimation. Possibly someday soon as, say, one of the extras on their Dragon Boxes.

That said, you could probably find it otherwise if you really wanted to, but promoting pirated material is against the rules, here. So unless someone has other information to add, or links to auctions or something, I'm not sure there's much more to add to this thread.

[Rami]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

[goku the krump dancer]

I remember I first saw this in third grade...I still cant get over that Goku said that Hatchiyak is 10x stronger than Broly.

[Jon Jon]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

[JulieYBM]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Because it is the right thing to do.

[Haseowolf]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Mike and crew did a good chunk of an episode on ethics in Dragon Ball fandom and this whole entitlement mentality about things like this. Good episode.

[Metalwario64]

It's the one piece of Dragonball media

I think I see what you did there... If you actually did that there...

[Pitzu]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Isn't getting fansubs what everyone did before DB became popular and had merchandise everywhere, and isn't it what people still do for, I dunno.
Dragonball Kai?

How is this any different?

[Kendamu]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Isn't getting fansubs what everyone did before DB became popular and had merchandise everywhere, and isn't it what people still do for, I dunno.
Dragonball Kai?

How is this any different?

Yes, individual people do these things. Daizenshuu EX (i.e. Mike) wants nothing to do with promoting that sort of activity. He's not gonna come to your house, kick in your door, and smash your computer with a baseball bat if you, individually, decide to download Kai episodes or *cough* record them while they're streaming onto your computer live just like how you record things from TV onto VHS with a VCR for your own enjoyment within your own home *cough*. He just doesn't want people sharing that sort of thing here.

[Taku128]

I didn't realize posting YouTube links counted as promoting pirated material. My bad, apparently...

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Because it is the right thing to do.

Why is it the right thing to do? Normally I hate piracy, but in this case it's not like the person is stealing a profit from Toei. The only places this has been released is on VHS and the Japanese Dragon Boxes, both of which are out of print. If you imported either of those you wouldn't be making Toei any money, you'd be making money for some random guy who had nothing to do with the production of the product in question. I completely understand why EX doesn't want it linked to on his site, but I don't see how downloading or watching the Playdia footage online is wrong.

[Kendamu]

I can understand why they removed it, but since it isn't available to us here without spending a huge lump of cash to import, I don't see the big deal.

Because it is the right thing to do.

Why is it the right thing to do? Normally I hate piracy, but in this case it's not like the person is stealing a profit from Toei. The only places this has been released is on VHS and the Japanese Dragon Boxes, both of which are out of print. If you imported either of those you wouldn't be making Toei any money, you'd be making money for some random guy who had nothing to do with the production of the product in question. I completely understand why EX doesn't want it linked to on his site, but I don't see how downloading or watching the Playdia footage online is wrong.

The idea is that apparently companies see no profit in bringing a property over here if everyone's already downloaded it. In their eyes, not enough people are big enough fans of a series to buy a legit copy of something to replace the fansub once said legit copy becomes available.

As for the Playdia stuff, watching it illegally goes back to what I just said: if everyone downloads it then FUNimation will be less likely to pursue attaining the rights to distribute it legally. Sure, they've not gotten it yet, but the releases they've been putting out post-Barry Watson shows that they care about our requests and are more likely to go after it now.

EDIT: Also, pirating anime that hasn't made it to the US yet takes money away from the studios. Less money means crappier quality anime or less anime altogether. That's the story, anyway. It's probably part of why there's so much free legal anime streaming with advertisements now.

[Taku128]

Because it is the right thing to do.

Why is it the right thing to do? Normally I hate piracy, but in this case it's not like the person is stealing a profit from Toei. The only places this has been released is on VHS and the Japanese Dragon Boxes, both of which are out of print. If you imported either of those you wouldn't be making Toei any money, you'd be making money for some random guy who had nothing to do with the production of the product in question. I completely understand why EX doesn't want it linked to on his site, but I don't see how downloading or watching the Playdia footage online is wrong.

The idea is that apparently companies see no profit in bringing a property over here if everyone's already downloaded it. In their eyes, not enough people are big enough fans of a series to buy a legit copy of something to replace the fansub once said legit copy becomes available.

As for the Playdia stuff, watching it illegally goes back to what I just said: if everyone downloads it then FUNimation will be less likely to pursue attaining the rights to distribute it legally. Sure, they've not gotten it yet, but the releases they've been putting out post-Barry Watson shows that they care about our requests and are more likely to go after it now.

EDIT: Also, pirating anime that hasn't made it to the US yet takes money away from the studios. Less money means crappier quality anime or less anime altogether. That's the story, anyway. It's probably part of why there's so much free legal anime streaming with advertisements now.

It's Dragon Ball Z. If they released the Playdia footage they'd sell a bajillion copies, regardless of how many people downloaded fansubs of it. Downloading never stopped any of the movies from coming out, why would it only affect the playdia footage?

[Kendamu]

It's Dragon Ball Z. If they released the Playdia footage they'd sell a bajillion copies, regardless of how many people downloaded fansubs of it. Downloading never stopped any of the movies from coming out, why would it only affect the playdia footage?

There's probably some pricey legal junk in the way of easily attaining it.

[Sprite Satan]

It's Dragon Ball Z. If they released the Playdia footage they'd sell a bajillion copies, regardless of how many people downloaded fansubs of it. Downloading never stopped any of the movies from coming out, why would it only affect the playdia footage?

There's probably some pricey legal junk in the way of easily attaining it.

There's no real reason to assume that. There needs to be proof for that to be believable.

Toei appear to hold full rights to the footage in Japan. Without any evidence, there's no reason to assume Funimation couldn't sub-license the footage as they do everything else.

[Kendamu]

It's Dragon Ball Z. If they released the Playdia footage they'd sell a bajillion copies, regardless of how many people downloaded fansubs of it. Downloading never stopped any of the movies from coming out, why would it only affect the playdia footage?

There's probably some pricey legal junk in the way of easily attaining it.

There's no real reason to assume that. There needs to be proof for that to be believable.

Toei appear to hold full rights to the footage in Japan. Without any evidence, there's no reason to assume Funimation couldn't sub-license the footage as they do everything else.

There was pricey legal junk in the way of FUNi getting the DragonBox, but FUNi always told me something to the effect of, "Screw you. We're proud of the Orange Bricks, you nerd," whenever I asked about it. Still, a lot of us safely assumed that they couldn't get the DBox and we were right.

Why, if in the past Toei has refused to give FUNi certain footage, should I not assume that Toei might be refusing to give FUNi the Playdia stuff?

[Sprite Satan]

There was pricey legal junk in the way of FUNi getting the DragonBox, but FUNi always told me something to the effect of, "Screw you. We're proud of the Orange Bricks, you nerd," whenever I asked about it. Still, a lot of us safely assumed that they couldn't get the DBox and we were right.

Why, if in the past Toei has refused to give FUNi certain footage, should I not assume that Toei might be refusing to give FUNi the Playdia stuff?

Toei simply refusing to hand over the Playdia footage is entirely possible but it doesn't equate to the claim that downloading/watching it somewhere else potentially reduces potential profits from a sub-licencing of the footage leading to Funimation declining to buying the rights in the first place.

If the "pricey legal junk" you're referring to is simply the sub-licencing fee, well then, uh, yeah. That's going to be in the way of everything Funimation ever produce for any series.

[Kendamu]

There was pricey legal junk in the way of FUNi getting the DragonBox, but FUNi always told me something to the effect of, "Screw you. We're proud of the Orange Bricks, you nerd," whenever I asked about it. Still, a lot of us safely assumed that they couldn't get the DBox and we were right.

Why, if in the past Toei has refused to give FUNi certain footage, should I not assume that Toei might be refusing to give FUNi the Playdia stuff?

Toei simply refusing to hand over the Playdia footage is entirely possible but it doesn't equate to the claim that downloading/watching it somewhere else potentially reduces potential profits from a sub-licencing of the footage leading to Funimation declining to buying the rights in the first place.

If the "pricey legal junk" you're referring to is simply the sub-licencing fee, well then, uh, yeah. That's going to be in the way of everything Funimation ever produce for any series.

They're two different reasons to speculate on. They didn't jump on the Playdia stuff a long time ago when people asked for it, now pretty much everyone who wants to has seen it online. There might be no profit in it.

Then there's the idea that Toei may not want to give it to them. I mean, FUNi likely didn't get any of the DBox extras, right? Those extras didn't show up on the R2 singles, right? So, maybe Toei wants it to be super exclusive. I dunno.

I dunno why I'm even discussing this. I must be that bored here at work. I think Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans is a stupid story, anyway.