Lack Of DBZ Covers On Shonen Jump....

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:25 pm

Super Sonic wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:Ya I suppose they could pass it off as, "The whole story of that strange girl who helped Goku fight Tao!"
That's only in that one movie. In the crossover in the manga nad anime, it's Gen. Blue's ass that she kicks.

Thanks for the info Super Sonic, but I was already aware of that though.^^ I just decided to go with Tao Pai-Pai because the scene was shorter and more crazy, since the TV episode shows more characters from Penguin Village and stuff. I thought it would be simpler to site the movie scene, since it has an even more confusing feel to it with just Arale-chan popping up out of nowhere and fading back into oblivion. That feeling of confusion was what I was trying to emphasize with the joke.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:41 pm

My bad. You do have a point though.

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:33 pm

5)One Piece (1)

That is a sin against mankind and should be considered punishable by death.

Yeah Japanese JUMP is plastered with ads and no they don't always distribute covers evenly (count the number of Kochi Kame covers in the past year), however they do a helluva lot better than US JUMP does.

Now don't get me wrong...it makes PERFECT sense that they would put what sells on the cover. But that only makes sense to a point. How long has JUMP been out in the US? And they're still pushing YGO covers? It should be pretty clear that anyone buying JUMP is going to do so regardless of what is on the cover now. They've got their readers and they can plaster ads with the YGO covers from the past. It's time they start giving other series the space they deserve.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:02 pm

Yeah, but apparently Yu-Gi-Oh! is what's popular today in the masses of American society. SJ just puts what sells on the cover, then every now & then some DBZ covers & very few, if little, Naruto & Shaman King Covers.
But I do agree that some other titles just need some more attention.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:42 am

Now that Naruto is licensed, I bet once it starts showing on Toonami we'll see more. I was fucking THRILLED when I got the first Naruto cover, and the newest one is awesome too.

I've been buying them for almost two years and haven't seen any One Piece covers, and only one Yu Yu Hakusho.

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:11 pm

One Piece cover:

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Yu Yu Cover:

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Naruto Covers:

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Theres wayyyy too many Yugioh covers, theres plenty of DBZ covers, and Shaman King has about the 3rd most of the covers. Still yeah theres a One Piece and yuyu Cover, and 3 Naruto ones.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:55 pm

When you think about it. Naruto, One Piece, and Shaman King have little to no popularity among non-anime fans. The whole DragonBall Z series was shown on Television already so there wouldn't be anything worth advertising. Same for Yu Yu Hakusho...kinda.

YuGiOh, on the other hand, had the Shadow Games arc (A series that wasn't even dubbed) and the Ancient Egypt arc (A series that has yet to be dubbed). This would of course bring in the bucks. People always want to be that guy who goes "Hey didja know in YuGiOh..." and have all of his boys goin "Damn I never knew that."

Remember how the Majin Buu saga was put into DVD/VHS before the CELL GAMES. It was all for making money. YGO does have a lot going for it and I can really understand as to why SJ constantly has it on the cover.

EDIT: Naruto is comming to Toonami?

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:11 am

The argument for putting YGO on the cover because it sells is long past.

If you don't know that YGO is in Jump by now, you are 100% retarded. More so than self-proclaimed 'otaku', dubbies, subbies, freaks, geeks, a blind deaf mute with down's and kleinfelter's syndrome as well as severe halitosis, newbies, l337s and yes, even seven year olds.

Every little bastard buying the magazine knows YGO is in it. Anyone who wants to read YGO knows it is in Jump. By this point playing it up as much as it does is, more than anything, yuppie-larva creative directors and editors being on the same level on 100% retardation of those who don't know YGO is in Jump.

Now it is just sad.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:34 am

What if you just got out the pen and you walked into your local Walden's Books and you see Atemu on the cover of the new Shonen Jump and the heading Showdown in Ancient Egypt. Cha-ching! for SJ. I am sorry but YGO sells big time man. Sooner or later they will have Shonen Jumps in the libraries of elementary schools. Cha-ching! Kids will beg their parents for subscriptions.

Thats all cake baby.

If you are a sales person then you would realize that children are your best targets. They are innocent and have yet to be jacked and realize it. Adults have the green but wont buy something unless it is really important.

If an adult liked YGO then they would read the 20 something pages in the book and put it back on the shelves to save some bucks rather than buy the whole thing.

Children on the other hand would see YGO on the cover with an additional Super Saiyan here or there then they would buy the whole shabang. Have you ever bought a toy when you were younger then a few months later said "Where the hell did this come from?" and have no regards for it. Children = $$$

Werd.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:08 am

Thats all cake baby.

Yes...yes, I suppose it is all "Cake"

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:03 pm

I am sorry but YGO sells big time man.

I didn't say it didn't. But everyone knows YGO is in it. There's no place in it being there because everyone who wants SJ for YGO is getting it and will get it. It made sense years ago. Now it's simply foolish.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:38 pm

If it's simply foolish, then why I do I still see YGO covers 90% of the time on SJ ?. Maybe it will change in the future or in the upcoming issues, but I still see quite a large number of YGO covers. Maybe you're right, since people have acknowledged YGO is in SJ, the covers will probably change but it's still undetermined. We'll just have to wait & see.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:21 pm

Sebastian (SB) wrote:If it's simply foolish, then why I do I still see YGO covers 90% of the time on SJ ?. Maybe it will change in the future or in the upcoming issues, but I still see quite a large number of YGO covers. Maybe you're right, since people have acknowledged YGO is in SJ, the covers will probably change but it's still undetermined. We'll just have to wait & see.

I think you're missing his point. He's saying it's WRONG for there to be so many YGO covers on Shonen Jump, which is completely true.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:33 pm

Well by the end of 2008 YGO will be over with. Which leads us to the question, "What will SJ's next claim to fame be?"

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:51 am

If it's simply foolish, then why I do I still see YGO covers 90% of the time on SJ ?

Because Viz is simply foolish.

"What will SJ's next claim to fame be?"

God knows it should be One Piece.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:05 pm

omae no kaasan wrote:God knows it should be One Piece.

I don't think so... Don't get me wrong, I agree that it should be... But manga get its publicity mainly from its anime counterpart, and with the craptacular job they've done dubbing it, I really doubt it'll take off.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:11 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:
omae no kaasan wrote:God knows it should be One Piece.
I don't think so... Don't get me wrong, I agree that it should be... But manga get its publicity mainly from its anime counterpart, and with the craptacular job they've done dubbing it, I really doubt it'll take off.

The same goes for Shaman King.

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:03 am

I'd like to mention Yu Gi Oh had a just as craptacular dub and got popular with it.

Yeah it and Shaman King NOW have uncut dubs but those were after popularity not before.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:01 pm

But does Shaman King have a worldwide cardgame franchise? I mean face it. YGO has been hot with the toddlers and card players for almost five years. Now that people can find it in a comic book form they will begin to dump the dollars. With the added YGO covers it will be known among fans as the "Yu-Gi-Oh! magazine with some other shit added."

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:13 pm

laserkid wrote:I'd like to mention Yu Gi Oh had a just as craptacular dub and got popular with it.

Yeah it and Shaman King NOW have uncut dubs but those were after popularity not before.

Actually, I think the Yu-Gi-Oh! dub is ten times better than the One Piece and Shaman King dubs combined. I just utterly hate Anna and Sanji's voices. X_x